Diamond Jubilee - no "professional" cameras allowed.

There isn't even a restriction as strict as this for the Olympics, which will most certainly bring more visitors to London than these jubilee celebrations...
 
jon ryan said:
Have you carried out a cost/benefit analysis of whether the Royals bring in more than they cost?

A short quiz:

Q: Who contributes more to the British economy?

A/ The Queen
B/ Steelmagnet

Oh, and can you give us a couple of examples of the 'ruling' she does? How have you personally been 'ruled' by her? And what makes you believe she 'presides' over you? Can you give us an example of this as well, please?
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Agree on the cost benefit aspect. I would not have a Royal Family if I had the choice but they can stay if they are in profit. However, a cost/benefit analysis is impossible. We know what they cost but we have no way of knowing what they return. Money from tourism and UK people visiting etc,. is impossible to gauge. Would tourist come to UK without Royal Family, how much more are they spending if they would come anyway etc,.

The ruling she does is the unminuted regular meetings she has with the PM.
 
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And you can turn off the shutter sounds so it would be quiet rather than making a right racket.
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I doubt that shutter noise will be heard over the thousands of cheering adoring subjects as Queenie jogs by !!:)
 
If you go on Nikon's website and check their product range you will see that their 'Professional range starts at the Nikon D300's.

So that means the D80 is not a 'Pro' camera, so print out their list and take it with you to prove that your D80 is NOT a 'Pro' camera. :thumbs:


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Mountkeen said:
I'm dealing with the Department of Culture Media and Sport here. If they can be misleading and disingenuous on the small matter of media ownership the odds of getting a sensible answer out of them on this are remote.
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Remember goverment Departments spend millions training staff to be "misleading and disingenuous" thats about the only thing they get right these days. ;)
 
jon ryan said:
Have you carried out a cost/benefit analysis of whether the Royals bring in more than they cost?

A short quiz:

Q: Who contributes more to the British economy?

A/ The Queen
B/ Steelmagnet

Oh, and can you give us a couple of examples of the 'ruling' she does? How have you personally been 'ruled' by her? And what makes you believe she 'presides' over you? Can you give us an example of this as well, please?
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The monarchy is an outdated, undemocratic system that has no place existing in this century. These unelected sponges live an elite life of luxury to the tune of over £200 million a year at the expense of tax payers and possess political power, simply because they were born into that family. It's disgusting.

Why UK should abolish its 'failed' monarchy

Have you ever actually thought about the monarchy at any great length, or are you simply regurgitating royalist propaganda you've been spoonfed since birth?

Get rid of the monarchy. And get rid of the House of Lords while we're at it. This is the 21st bloody century and the UK, like any civilised country, should be an absolute democracy. It's working, tax paying people like Steelmagnet and the rest of us who keep this economy running, not these pompous, useless toffs.

All this extravagant spending in the last two years on the royal wedding and this jubilee nonsense is a slap in the face to the millions of people who are suffering from austerity measures across the UK.
 
So I take it you haven't got your bunting out then?
 
onona said:
The monarchy is an outdated, undemocratic system that has no place existing in this century. These unelected sponges live an elite life of luxury to the tune of over £200 million a year at the expense of tax payers and possess political power, simply because they were born into that family. It's disgusting.

Why UK should abolish its 'failed' monarchy

Have you ever actually thought about the monarchy at any great length, or are you simply regurgitating royalist propaganda you've been spoonfed since birth?

Get rid of the monarchy. And get rid of the House of Lords while we're at it. This is the 21st bloody century and the UK, like any civilised country, should be an absolute democracy. It's working, tax paying people like Steelmagnet and the rest of us who keep this economy running, not these pompous, useless toffs.

All this extravagant spending in the last two years on the royal wedding and this jubilee nonsense is a slap in the face to the millions of people who are suffering from austerity measures across the UK.
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I think you'll find that the Crown Estate runs the monarchy at a net profit to the country, if you bothered to do some research rather than regurgitating Republican propaganda that you've been spoonfed.
 
onona said:
These unelected sponges live an elite life of luxury to the tune of over £200 million a year at the expense of tax payers
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This forum is no place for political discussion but the Civil List is just £40m (not £200m) compared to the 100% of Crown Estates profits of £200m which go direct to the Treasury voluntarily. That would be a net of +£160m on its own. Add to that whatever percentage you choose of the estimated tourism spend of £7bn and the numbers start to look rather good.

Oh, and it's the only thing we have left that makes the Yanks grovel. You can't put a value on that :D
 
DemiLion said:
I think you'll find that the Crown Estate runs the monarchy at a net profit to the country, if you bothered to do some research rather than regurgitating Republican propaganda that you've been spoonfed.
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Just because the article I posted a link to was written by a republican doesn't mean that's the only source I've researched.
 
WilliamC said:
This forum is no place for political discussion but the Civil List is just £40m (not £200m) compared to the 100% of Crown Estates profits of £200m which go direct to the Treasury voluntarily. That would be a net of +£160m on its own. Add to that whatever percentage you choose of the estimated tourism spend of £7bn and the numbers start to look rather good.

Oh, and it's the only thing we have left that makes the Yanks grovel. You can't put a value on that :D
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How can you rationallyl expect anyone to believe you can prove the exact amount of money that the supposed allure of the royal family brings to the UK? You can't. Until such time as the monarchy is abolished, and it WILL eventually be abolished, nobody will know.
 
So if we went to having an elected president we wouldn't have to pay for that position then?

Just because I happen to believe in the monarchy does not mean we have been spoonfed royalist propaganda. Just as you believe we would would be better off without the monarchy I don't say you have been spoonfed propaganda from the socialist workers party.
 
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onona said:
How can you rationallyl expect anyone to believe you can prove the exact amount of money that the supposed allure of the royal family brings to the UK? You can't. Until such time as the monarchy is abolished, and it WILL eventually be abolished, nobody will know.
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The fact is that the majority of the population like the monarchy and enjoy having it. I would rather £40m goes to then from the taxpayer than the billions spent on those too lazy to find a job or paying for people who have never contributed a penny claiming all sorts of benefits. it's also a drop in the ocean to the money we give to third world dictators in the form of overseas aid or the amounts supporting Greek peasants in euro bailouts or the eu in general.

Typical socialist propaganda. You don't like it so ignore the fact that the majority do like it and want to ban or remove it. Look at how the country enjoyed the wedding last year. Look at the excitement people are having over this weekend. Read the many accounts of people who have met the queen. They mean so much.

And, if anything maybe an unelected leader or house if lords is the way forward if the majority of our own MPs are anything to go by. Surely they can't be as corrupt or inept.
 
onona said:
How can you rationallyl expect anyone to believe you can prove the exact amount of money that the supposed allure of the royal family brings to the UK? You can't. Until such time as the monarchy is abolished, and it WILL eventually be abolished, nobody will know.
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Care to back up that claim with a little evidence?
 
jon ryan said:
Care to back up that claim with a little evidence?
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Probably when someone realises the royal family are Greek/German hybrids (well not Harry lol ) rather than of uk blood.

It's just a shame when scotland gains its independence we will still keep the queen as head if state which I think is utterly pointless
 
Even if it was £200 million that works out about £3 a head per year, I'd say that was a bargain better value than a Mac Burger or whatever.
 
POAH said:
Probably when someone realises the royal family are Greek/German hybrids (well not Harry lol ) rather than of uk blood.

It's just a shame when scotland gains its independence we will still keep the queen as head if state which I think is utterly pointless
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There's another claim that needs backing up.
 
POAH said:
Probably when someone realises the royal family are Greek/German hybrids (well not Harry lol ) rather than of uk blood.

It's just a shame when scotland gains its independence we will still keep the queen as head if state which I think is utterly pointless
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It is a matter of record that the "British" royal family actually come from Germany (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha); they changed their name in WW1.

see http://www.throneout.com/ for more information on what they've been up to since.

As an aside, I wouldn't swear allegiance to that bunch of inbred sods, let alone die for them or in their name (no offence meant - that is my honest opinion), which makes the fact that I'm British by default rather handy since it saves immigration aggro :bang: . I will be a long way from London, just as well since the weekend and the bank hols might be a good time to do some 'togging while everyone else is getting goggle-eyed on the jubilee.
 
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I would say that very few of us are 100% pure brutish.
 
cambsno said:
I would say that very few of us are 100% pure brutish.
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Anyone born on these Islands are British, allowing for the spelling the tone of your post stinks of racism, 100 % ??? pffft:thumbsdown:
 
Tioc said:
Anyone born on these Islands are British, [...]
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Sorry, but that's not true. It depends on the parents nationality / immigration status.
 
Tioc said:
Anyone born on these Islands are British, allowing for the spelling the tone of your post stinks of racism, 100 % ??? pffft:thumbsdown:
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Pulling the race card when someone is talking objectively is worse form than the original point as far as I'm concerned.

If you can't talk about anthropology (which is what I assume Simon is doing here - quite correctly IMO) then it's a pretty sad state of affairs!


PS: sorry Mark. I promise to post some pretty pics of the Jubilee over the next couple of days!
Have we got a sticky for them yet?
 
Poor post by Tioc. No race element in Simons post; shame on you Tioc!
 
DemiLion said:
Pulling the race card when someone is talking objectively is worse form than the original point as far as I'm concerned.

If you can't talk about anthropology (which is what I assume Simon is doing here - quite correctly IMO) then it's a pretty sad state of affairs!


PS: sorry Mark. I promise to post some pretty pics of the Jubilee over the next couple of days!
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define pure100 % British then, to me its someone born on the Isles of Brittain or is that a bit "Blood snd Soil" for your tastes ? Its labeling people as pure or not I have a problem with.
 
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define 100 % British then, to me its someone born on the Isles of Brittain or is that a bit "Blood snd Soil" for your tastes ?
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No thanks. I'm not stupid enough to get embroiled in that debate. See Fab's post earlier.
 
Tioc said:
define pure100 % British then, to me its someone born on the Isles of Brittain or is that a bit "Blood snd Soil" for your tastes ? Its labeling people as pure or not I have a problem with.
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Being able to spell Britian correctly would help :lol:
 
POAH said:
yeah its in the "95% of users dont GAF" forum :lol:
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POAH said:
Being able to spell Britian correctly would help :lol:
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I quite agree. This is as reprehensible as people who are ignorant of how to punctuate contractions such as 'it's' and 'don't', and who don't know when to use capitals and periods. Such poorly educated people we have on here!
 
jon ryan said:
I quite agree. This is as reprehensible as people who are ignorant of how to punctuate contractions such as 'it's' and 'don't', and who don't know when to use capitals and periods. Such poorly educated people we have on here!
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I think you are on you're period


look I did it wrong maw
 
POAH said:
I think you are on you're period


look I did it wrong maw
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Try not to worry about it. Many people have similar problems and are able to cope with them. Perhaps you could get some remedial coaching?
 
Tioc said:
define pure100 % British then, to me its someone born on the Isles of Brittain or is that a bit "Blood snd Soil" for your tastes ? Its labeling people as pure or not I have a problem with.
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Britain is an island made up of many different races - virtually no one who was born here has the genetics of just one race , so the concept of pure british is meaningless (and has been since the roman invasion)

By way of illustration on my paternal grandfathers family tree traces back to denmark, my paternal grand mother was hugenot extraction, my maternal grandfather was from the lincolnshire fens, and my maternal grand mother was a mcphee from the western isles.

By birth and alleigance I'm as British as they come, but there is nothing pure about my bloodline.
 
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