Decisions, Decisions....

Mahoneyd187 said:
It applies to everything. Hobbyists happily spank £1700 or whatever on a D700 or canon 5dii, £1100 on a 70-200, but then want to spend £xxx on lights. It's fair enough if they don't shoot people, but those that do skimp in the wrong places IMO.
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I Agree. Some people spend incredible sums of money on top cameras and lenses just to produce web-size images but then begrudge spending anything on lighting. Personally I find their priorities strange, but hey it's their money:)
 
Well in this case i own a 5dII Gripped, 24-70 2.8L, 70-200 2.8L IS and have been shooting mainly in a 2500sqm studio which has a range of studio areas.

I know its going to cost and i am making that investment.
 
Chris Y said:
Well in this case i own a 5dII Gripped, 24-70 2.8L, 70-200 2.8L IS and have been shooting mainly in a 2500sqm studio which has a range of studio areas.

I know its going to cost and i am making that investment.
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That wasn't aimed at anyone in particular bud, specially not you as you seem realistic about costs/gear :)
 
The point I was trying to make is that I've spent a lot of money on cameras and lenses because I need to, but I've spent 4x as much on lighting, because lighting makes a much greater contribution to the finished result, for the type of work I do.

I'm not knocking decisions to spend a lot on cameras and lenses, but it does seem strange to me when people spend far more on them than they do on lighting, and especially when they don't produce the type of work that needs expensive gear.

Chris, if you want to spend your money on technology that was old when it was introduced quite a few years ago then obviously that's up to you, but you might want to look around - there are a lot of other choices, and some of them may suit you better.
 
Chris, if you want to spend your money on technology that was old when it was introduced quite a few years ago then obviously that's up to you, but you might want to look around - there are a lot of other choices, and some of them may suit you better.
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Its more the expandability and cross compatibility later on down the line.
 
Garry Edwards said:
..... because lighting makes a much greater contribution to the finished result, for the type of work I do.
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I think that's a fair point, as you say, for the type of work you do, which I guess is product based, where colour temp and consistency is very important.

However, to clarify, in any other genre I couldn't disagree more. rubbish glass combined with a rubbish sensor with the best lights in the world, will never produce as good an image as great glass with a great sensor and rubbish lights :)
To prove a point to a friend, I've recently been using some of the cheapest ebay lights you can find with great results, the big difference is whether they'll still be in one piece after a few weeks!.
 
Garry Edwards said:
I Agree. Some people spend incredible sums of money on top cameras and lenses just to produce web-size images but then begrudge spending anything on lighting. Personally I find their priorities strange, but hey it's their money:)
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I'm the other way round - bought two new low powered flash heads at over £1k, but I'm using lenses that date back to the 80's and grudgingly spent £300 on a secondhand body recently.

Portable option, well I'd like a Multiblitz Propac2 (because it seems to outperform most of the other alternatives) but for less than the cost of that I could get a Lencarta Safari Classic with 2 heads and some modifiers & as I do this for fun, I'd probably look at that option first for myself.

Paul
 
treeman said:
I think that's a fair point, as you say, for the type of work you do, which I guess is product based, where colour temp and consistency is very important.

However, to clarify, in any other genre I couldn't disagree more. rubbish glass combined with a rubbish sensor with the best lights in the world, will never produce as good an image as great glass with a great sensor and rubbish lights :)
To prove a point to a friend, I've recently been using some of the cheapest ebay lights you can find with great results, the big difference is whether they'll still be in one piece after a few weeks!.
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These days I would strongly question whether there are "rubbish" sensors, and most glass is brilliant, even some consumer level variable aperture lenses shot at studio apertures (f8+) would hold a candle to a pro lens. Seriously, give me an old D40 and a prime lens with great lights over a D3 and a pro zoom lens with ebay lights for studio work any day. Speed isn't everything for controlled shots, megapixels and micro contrast are over rated.

No right or wrong, just priorities differ I guess. I never need bigger prints than 16x24 for starters
 
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