Death to Grey Squirrels

Cobra said:


Serious question, would you rather that the human race didn't ry to redress the balance of nature at all, ie not cull anything?
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You know where I stand on this, but the problem is we've usually buggered up the balance in the first place. Just anticipatiing possible responses. ;)

Canada Geese are another introduced species which have reached pest proportions and are taking over waters where they're just more aggressive than other species.
 
after the greys have been culled we should move on to Magpies and then cull the owners of dogs that are allowed to $hit on the streets without cleaning it up!
 
I'm not a lover of Magpies, but they're well out of control since the demise of the gamekeepers who used to control their numbers.

Irresponsible dog owners culled? The idea does have some appeal. ;)
 
CT said:
I'm not a lover of Magpies, but they're well out of control since the demise of the gamekeepers who used to control their numbers.
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Demise of the gamekeepers? Bloody hell, since when have they been under cull?

Actually their industry is hugely prone to the wobblies of our dis-economy and I fear there will be redundancies.
 
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KIPAX said:
Although my kids would be upset if anyone killed the two that play in our garden...
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Multiple choice answers:

Response 1:
You think they'd be upset... the tree rats are hardly over the moon about it.

Response 2:
Then you'd better help your kids to learn to shoot pretty quick before someone else hops over the hedge and beats them to it.

Response 3:
Give me your address and I'll send a humane trap up. Then the kids can have two fluffy furry friends in their bedroom.
 
tikkathreebarrel said:
Demise of the gamekeepers? Bloody hell, since when have they been under cull?

Actually their industry is hugely prone to the wobblies of our dis-economy and I fear there will be redundancies.
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LOL. Indeed, but gamekeepers are few and far between anyway compared to the heyday of shooting, when the keeper was in deep doody if His Lordship saw a couple of Maggies on a pheasant shooting day. :D
 
tikkathreebarrel said:
Multiple choice answers:

Response 1:
You think they'd be upset... the tree rats are hardly over the moon about it.

Response 2:
Then you'd better help your kids to learn to shoot pretty quick before someone else hops over the hedge and beats them to it.

Response 3:
>Then the kids can have two fluffy furry friends in their bedroom.
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option 3 is illegal ;)

I can't rememeber the exact wording but
Its is Illegle to feed nurture or encourage, it used to be illegle to release back into the wild
( once trapped) but it seems that one or two agencies have
managed to get a licence to do so, :( (I am still looking for this peice of ****ing stupid legislation though)
So if you have a feeding station set up to encourage Greys you are breaking the law!
 
Cobra said:
Serious question, would you rather that the human race didn't ry to redress the balance of nature at all, ie not cull anything?
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KIPAX said:
Unless its a threat to our (mankind are we calling it?) actual existance then we shouldnt go near it.. full stop... Just my opinion based on very limited info :)
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Ok lets be honest about this I kill things for a living, I am paid to do so by the people that call me.
These are things that I kill in a course of week, (or seasonally)

this is not a full list BTW
I would be interested to know where you would draw the line
if you or your property were infested with any of these

Psocids infest in there millions
mites ditto
fleas infest in hundreds of thousands
bed bugs infest in thousands
clusterflies infest in hundreds of thousands
carpet beetle infest in hundreds
cloth moth ditto
cockroaches infest in thousands
mice infest in dozens
rats infest in dozens
Moles average of 6
Grey squirells usually just 2 or 3 at a time
rabbits can be hunreds
foxes usually one ( sometimes more)
 
Cobra said:
Ok lets be honest about this I kill things for a living, I am paid to do so by the people that call me.
These are things that I kill in a course of week, (or seasonally)

this is not a full list BTW
I would be interested to know where you would draw the line
if you or your property were infested with any of these

Psocids infest in there millions
mites ditto
fleas infest in hundreds of thousands
bed bugs infest in thousands
clusterflies infest in hundreds of thousands
carpet beetle infest in hundreds
cloth moth ditto
cockroaches infest in thousands
mice infest in dozens
rats infest in dozens
Moles average of 6
Grey squirells usually just 2 or 3 at a time
rabbits can be hunreds
foxes usually one ( sometimes more)
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Done properly (as in getting someone like you out) there are a couple of thngs I would add to the list!
 
susie said:
Done properly (as in getting someone like you out) there are a couple of thngs I would add to the list!
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He wont do your neighbours Susie. :nono:

Although, he probably would. :D
 
susie said:
Done properly (as in getting someone like you out) there are a couple of thngs I would add to the list!
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:D I do get asked on occasions :lol:
 
I thought I would pop a reminder of what a red squirrel looks like.
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And very tasty they are too. Especially given that you're almost being begged to eat the damn things by the bucketload.
 
sawman said:
I thought I would pop a reminder of what a red squirrel looks like.
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very timely, nice to see you Charlie :thumbs:

inaneredstripe said:
any one thought about american creyfish, decimating the indiginous population.?oops.
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and mink and glis glis and muntjac and harliquin (Sp?) ladybirds and and .................
 
inaneredstripe said:
yup. furry and flappy imigrants, by the lorry load.
whats a glis glis?
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:lol:
Edible dormouse
bought in by the romans as food and later Rothchild as another brain storm
look like a little fat ( grey) squirrels desructive as hell
 
Haha..
 
In some places red squirrels are starting to naturally out compete the grey squirrel and have developed immunity to squirrel pox as well as a lot of places starting to cull the greys

craigieboi said:
totally agree with you also macky u can see looking at our landscape that we should have wolves, bears etc in there :thumbs:
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There is currently a motion to reintroduce wolves into the Schotish highlands to see what impact they'd have, as well as sea eagle and beaver
 
They can cull some from my garden while they're on.

Actually I do find some poetic justice when my garden fills up with Sparrows or Starlings - both of which were introduced to Central Park NY and have managed to take over the whole east side of the US.
 
On the Isle of Wight, we have only red squirrels. The little bit of water separating us from that big island the rest of you live on keeps the greys away (until they learn to build boats).

Steve.
 
Uneducated_Rick said:
In some places red squirrels are starting to naturally out compete the grey squirrel and have developed immunity to squirrel pox as well as a lot of places starting to cull the greys



There is currently a motion to reintroduce wolves into the Schotish highlands to see what impact they'd have, as well as sea eagle and beaver
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The Sea Eagles have been reintroduced already on the Isle of Mull years ago and are doing well and they are in the middle of reintroducing them to the east coast of Scotland :thumbs:. The Beavers have been passed for a trial introduction on the west coast and if i remember correctly there on the mainland in quarantine somewhere in england i think :thumbs:
 
Uneducated_Rick said:
In some places red squirrels are starting to naturally out compete the grey squirrel and have developed immunity to squirrel pox.



I wonder if you would be good enough to point me to evidence of this. I have heard reports of reds recovering from the pox. What percentage I wonder?
I am not understanding in what way the reds are out competing they greys either.
I would have thought if they could do it in one area they could do it anywhere the two species come in contact with each other.
For the record. I am working very hard to safeguard a pocket of Reds in this area & any factual evidence of this would be very interesting to me.
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Ewan said:
Sorry, what the ****?

In what way is this a good thing? Why on earth is this nessecary? We're culling them because we reckon the red ones look nicer?

I'm disgusted :thumbsdown:
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Get with the programme:shrug::shrug:
 
Wouldn't it be nice if we could keep both!! couldnt we vaccine some reds, then breed from them?? :naughty:
 
fraggle101 said:
Wouldn't it be nice if we could keep both!! couldnt we vaccine some reds, then breed from them?? :naughty:
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Some years ago they did try to give the greys contraceptive in their food but I do not think it can have worked!
Even if the reds were to become immune they would still have competition from the greys, food etc.
 
There is real excitement on the Solway coast of Cumbria.

A white-tailed sea eagle has been spotted feeding on the beach there for the first time in more than 200 years.

The predator was photographed as it graced the shoreline. It sat regally - surveying its new lands.

It is one of the largest birds in this country. A true king of the skies which until now was only found in Scotland.

Nice to see the above as well as the news about greys, Glad someone has at last got the ba**s to put a program in place. Regards Jimbo
 
sawman said:
I wonder if you would be good enough to point me to evidence of this. I have heard reports of reds recovering from the pox. What percentage I wonder?
I am not understanding in what way the reds are out competing they greys either.
I would have thought if they could do it in one area they could do it anywhere the two species come in contact with each other.
For the record. I am working very hard to safeguard a pocket of Reds in this area & any factual evidence of this would be very interesting to me.
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I can't remember where I read it, but if I remember rightly the proposed mechanism was something akin to early man - 1 species was bigger and stronger, but the other learnt quicker.

The reds, whilst initially decimated by greys, learnt and adapted until they were dominant within a small locale - and this happened in geographically remote regions of the UK (about 4 or 5 small patches)
 
Uneducated_Rick said:
I can't remember where I read it, but if I remember rightly the proposed mechanism was something akin to early man - 1 species was bigger and stronger, but the other learnt quicker.

The reds, whilst initially decimated by greys, learnt and adapted until they were dominant within a small locale - and this happened in geographically remote regions of the UK (about 4 or 5 small patches)
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Thanks for that. My guess would still be that there were other factors at work there.
I will try to find out a bit more though. I am in contact with the Red Squirrel project folk & I would think they may well have come across this study.
Bit too early to get the hopes up though I think.
 
And what the Blacks - where do they fit into any proposed programme of eradication?
As a variant of the Grey (but often even more aggressive) I guess they're included - certainly hope so ;)

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Ewan said:
Humans! :D

They're everywhere, and they seem to have a habit of chopping down and killing stuff :bonk:
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Cull anyone?
THere are a few ferals about that aren't far from another species which we could do without :lol:
 
Hell no! not after you anyway :D
 
While we're at it we should cull all these lefties and politically correct softies that run around telling everyone how "offended" and "disgusted" they are every time someone has the balls to say what they honestly think..... as though they have the monopoly on what's right and what's wrong :cuckoo:
Lets rewind back to the 70s and try again :thumbs:
 
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