David Bailey - Stardust

I'm really surprised at this thread.

I mean really surprised.

Out of interest, what would people pay £14.50 to go see?
 
Those were the days,could see an David Bailey expo,take your girl and still have enough change for fish & chips on the way home for a fiver :D
 
We're talking about a long time before you were born :)

I think the ads from the seventies probably did make him a household name, though he was very well known before that in the fashion world.

*crossed post with Dave*

Aha! I thought it was meant recently.

I assumed he was famous for his photography, but also for his relationship with Shrimpton which gave him access to lots of exciting people to photograph. Can't be a photographer without interesting subjects.
 
Aha! I thought it was meant recently.

I assumed he was famous for his photography, but also for his relationship with Shrimpton which gave him access to lots of exciting people to photograph. Can't be a photographer without interesting subjects.

BBC did a TV drama about it,unavailable at the moment on i-player but link should come up again soon :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01b674s
 
A number of interesting points have been raised in this thread.
Alastair said "Should national galleries be allowed to charge for special exhibitions?"
To which I would say definitely yes. Our national galleries and museums are desperate for funding and this seems like a sensible way of supplementing that funding.
It's a simple matter of choice whether you pay to go or not.
Alastair also said "Is £16 too much to charge for a special exhibition in a national gallery?"
To which I would answer, No, it's probably about right.
I had no qualms about baying £15.50 for the David Bowie Exhibition at the V&A last year.
However, everything has it's price, and in terms of freedom of choice, I choose not to pay that amount for the Bailey exhibition, since firstly, lots of the images have probably been seen elsewhere anyway, and secondly, I'm not particularly interested in Baileys style of photography.
There's all this thing about him being a "household name" but how many of the Great British Public would be able to pick out one of his images from a random selection of similar types of shot?

PMN said "If theres a band I really want to see I'd think 15 quid for a ticket were an absolute steal (my ticket to see the Eagles in June cost £137 by comparison). If there's a photographer whose work I really love 15 quid is nothing to see 250 images printed properly as the artist intended them to be viewed."
This sums it up for me. As a long time Eagles fan, and having seen them many times in the past, this is the first time I have ever declined to pay their extortionate demands for ticket prices.
The Eagles have simply priced themselves out of the market, even for a lifelong fan like myself.
I would further agree that if it were a photographer whose work I love, then £15 would represent a reasonable price, but to expect to pay that sort of price for a gig these days is pure fantasy.
I find it extremely frustrating that big name gigs sell out so quickly that the only way to get tickets is to pay over the odds.
I work in the music business, and I have heard from a company that promotes some really big name bands, that they budget their ticket prices for 80% seat sales.
Their comment was that, if they sold out, then it indicated that they hadn't set the ticket prices high enough.
Unfortunately my business connections don't often allow me access to the corporate ticketing arrangements, and I have to pay up like most other fans.
 
I remember the 60s and early 70s, and Bailey was pretty iconic. I'd love to go to the exhibition, but I don't know if I'll be in the UK while it's still on. The cost of travel from my wife's place in SW Scotland would probably rule it out too. Pity.

Is £14.50 too expensive? No, not for someone earning a reasonable income, but it's all relative to what you can, and are prepared to, spend. I know people who would be glad to pay £14.50; others who think nothing of spending far more than that at the pub in an evening but wouldn't cross the road to visit a free photography exhibition; and a few who would appreciate it, but would genuinely struggle to justify what would be, for them, an extravagance.
 
Anyone wanted to see yesterdays interview

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03t8rz8

It wasn't a very good interview. It seemed that the interviewer's preparation had consisted entirely of the thought that he would try to enter into an in depth confrontation about the objectification of women through photography. When Bailey refused to talk about that, in his characteristically dogmatic style, the rest of it just fell to pieces with Stephen Sackur barely attempting to conceal his frustration that the interview hadn't gone as planned.

I know that Bailey is not a good interviewee, but surely that's why you employ a professional interviewer? Surely Sackur must have been briefed that this was never going to be a easy ride?
 
I'm going to see the exhibition. Apparently there's also images never seen before.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing this I must admit. Around £15 for an exhibition is about right in my view too especially if it was something I really wanted to see. I wouldn't say it's unreasonable but I guess if there is a family going then it soon adds up.

Doesn't appear Jonathan Jones at The Guardian was a fan however: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/feb/05/david-bailey-stardust-review

Seems like people can give or take Bailey.
 
Any one else notice from that video how many tops of heads are cropped etc out of the pictures :)
 
PMN said "If theres a band I really want to see I'd think 15 quid for a ticket were an absolute steal (my ticket to see the Eagles in June cost £137 by comparison). If there's a photographer whose work I really love 15 quid is nothing to see 250 images printed properly as the artist intended them to be viewed."
This sums it up for me. As a long time Eagles fan, and having seen them many times in the past, this is the first time I have ever declined to pay their extortionate demands for ticket prices.
The Eagles have simply priced themselves out of the market, even for a lifelong fan like myself.

Just to be clear on this, there were tickets for 50-something quid available but as one of my all time favourite bands who I've never had the opportunity to see and will probably never have the chance to see again I thought I'd treat myself to the top/best ticket. They haven't tried to sell an entire arena at that price!

The point is I really want to see them so I don't mind paying that, just the same as i wouldn't mind paying £15, £30 or even more for a photographic exhibition I really wanted to see.
 
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Well I'll be going, it's good value imho. The price is comparable to most of the special exhibitions in the capital's galleries. I went to see his East End exhibition at Compressor House in Docklands in 2012 and that was £7, the Stardust exhibition has three times as many prints to look at, absolute bargain!
 
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Just to be clear on this, there were tickets for 50-something quid available but as one of my all time favourite bands who I've never had the opportunity to see and will probably never have the chance to see again I thought I'd treat myself to the top/best ticket. They haven't tried to sell an entire arena at that price!

The point is I really want to see them so I don't mind paying that, just the same as i wouldn't mind paying £15, £30 or even more for a photographic exhibition I really wanted to see.
Fair comment.
I've seen the Eagles half a dozen times and, as I said, for me they've now priced themselves out of the market.
I went to the last show that they played at the O2 (a venue I dislike) and didn't have top price tickets then, and the seats (and the sound) were poor.
At the time I thought it might be the last opportunity to see them, but here they are again.
The 50+ quid tickets come with a warning "Not suitable for people who don't like heights" (or something like that) which basically means they are rubbish, and I'm no longer that desperate to see them.
If you've never seen them you are in for a treat, they can still put on a great show and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Regarding the Bailey exhibition, I am interested, but I just don't have £15 worth of interest.
 
The 50+ quid tickets come with a warning "Not suitable for people who don't like heights" (or something like that) which basically means they are rubbish.

Indeed. I work in music as well (I'm a live sound engineer), I've mixed plenty of arena gigs and I usually enjoy mixing them (unless it's ice arenas in Russia or Ukraine with a mismatch of PA and 8 second natural reverb to fight with) but I don't generally go to them as a punter. 1800-2000 capacity is around the upper size limit of venues I really like as a punter but unfortunately you'll just never see certain bands in places that small. The best you can do if you really want to see a band is get the best seats, and again, whether you're willing to pay for that is entirely a personal decision just the same as it's a personal decision to pay 15 quid to see the David Bailey exhibition.
 
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I'll go but after the superb recent Behind The Mask exhibition at Somerset House it'll have to be pretty good to please me.
 
I don't know if it's been mentioned but there is a program on Sky Arts 1 on this exhibition on Tuesday @ 9PM (y)
A really brilliant program, which I really enjoyed.
Bailey was on great form, really hilarious, but at the same time gave great insight into his modus operandi.
It's made me rethink whether I should visit the exhibition after all.

One thing about Sky Arts is that they tend to repeat things quite a lot, so anyone that missed it tonight may be able to see it later.
 
A really brilliant program, which I really enjoyed.
Bailey was on great form, really hilarious, but at the same time gave great insight into his modus operandi.
It's made me rethink whether I should visit the exhibition after all.

One thing about Sky Arts is that they tend to repeat things quite a lot, so anyone that missed it tonight may be able to see it later.

Enjoyed it immensely. If I get the chance I'll be going to see the exhibition.
 
And don't forget the free Photo Noir, The Art of Cornel Lucas exhibition at the National Theatre from Feb 17th.
 
And don't forget the free Photo Noir, The Art of Cornel Lucas exhibition at the National Theatre from Feb 17th.
Thanks for that, I'd forgotten this was coming up :D
 
I went yesterday

I enjoyed the show.

Clearly most (all) of the images are very familiar and, unlike paintings, seeing them 'in the flesh' as it were is not a huge amount different from a large format book or individual prints. However, seeing the exhibits altogether was a worthwhile experience IMO. The Catherine Bailey room is my personal favourite. Also interesting to see all the Bailey bits, like an invite to the Kray's new night club and 'Bailey's Pentax' under glass.

I don't see him as some kind of God Like Genius but over his lifetime and especially in the early years he's one of those photographers who changed people's perspectives on photography and made some damn fine images along the way. Plus seeing his pictures in my dad's copy of 'Goodbye Baby and Amen' when I was a kid made me want to pick up a camera!

So I came out pleased to have seen it and having had a completion type moment. And a few quid lighter from buying a couple of books...
 
I watched Bailey's personal insight into his photographs as he walked around the exhibition on Sky Arts the other day. It was a very good insight. I would like to visit it but can't justify the journey down from York or the entry cost.
 
I well remember Bailey's book Goodbye Baby and Amen. Wish I'd pinched it from the college library, worth a lot of money now.

My favourite was his portrait of Malcolm Muggeridge, a classic hatchet job - wide-angle up close, harsh light on his pock-marked face, averted gaze and cropped tight to thrust his glistening black saliva straight at you.

Google found this, but you can't see the saliva! http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51UxV0TURLL.jpg Looking forward to the show.
 
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Hi - I have just found it repeated on Tues morning 7am - we are going up to London - might have to watch it when we get back!
 
I would encourage anyone going to the exhibition to just pay the extra £30to take out an annual membership that way it's free all year for everything that they have at the gallery!

I bought an annual membership plus one and it only cost me £65
 
I went, really enjoyed it. Wrote about it in my learning log/blog
 
Another good exhibition is at the science museum in London.
Tony Ray Jones & Martin Parr just seen it today, well worth going :)
 
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