Damn DogWalkers !!!

[TriggerHappy]

Wow, this has gone a bit downhill!

If owners control their dogs and parents control their children, then there shouldn't be the problems. Re kids running up to dogs - while parents should control them, it's common sense that if your dog will bite if that happens, you need a muzzle - for the dog's sake as much as anything.

If your dog is offlead it should either be a place you can see if someone's coming and pop them onlead, or they should be well enough trained to cope - your dog shouldn't be running up to people, or onlead dogs without them being ok with it. Surely it's that simple?

Likewise, parents should ideally stop children running up to strange dogs. But it's not always possible - I was a heller from the time I could walk for stroking strange dogs Dogs are easier to train than kids.

A bit of common sense on both sides and it's all ok.

Most sensible post so far!

 

[neil_g]

If owners control their dogs and parents control their children, then there shouldn't be the problems. Re kids running up to dogs - while parents should control them, it's common sense that if your dog will bite if that happens, you need a muzzle - for the dog's sake as much as anything.

thats a little harsh.

if another species came running up to you making loud noises youd probably react. does that mean you need muzzling? or just the dogs as their the inferior species?

just because a dog bites someone it doesnt make it dangerous. even animals have the right to protect themselves if they feel threatened.

 

[lawrie29]

To solve the argument, lets ensure every local area has 2 parks, one for dogs and one for kids. That way, never the twain shall meet. In a really progressive area, we could have a third, shared park, but with strict rule allowing neither children or dogs off a lead!

 

[DemiLion]

To solve the argument, lets ensure every local area has 2 parks, one for dogs and one for kids. That way, never the twain shall meet. In a really progressive area, we could have a third, shared park, but with strict rule allowing neither children or dogs off a lead!

A solution that's already been implemented in several London parks with specific areas where dogs are allowed off the lead.

 

[TriggerHappy]

thats a little harsh.

if another species came running up to you making loud noises youd probably react. does that mean you need muzzling? or just the dogs as their the inferior species?

just because a dog bites someone it doesnt make it dangerous. even animals have the right to protect themselves if they feel threatened.

That's precisely the point. The very fact we [humans] choose to breed them, feed them, pet them, cuddle them, train them and so much more makes them the inferior species. The only reason these dogs exist is to satisfy the whims of owners.

 

[Gremlin]

That's precisely the point. The very fact we [humans] choose to breed them, feed them, pet them, cuddle them, train them and so much more makes them the inferior species. The only reason these dogs exist is to satisfy the whims of owners.

Wish someone would tell my present dog that

 

[neil_g]

That's precisely the point. The very fact we [humans] choose to breed them, feed them, pet them, cuddle them, train them and so much more makes them the inferior species. The only reason these dogs exist is to satisfy the whims of owners.

and thats different to children because.....

 

[RacingSnake]

Interesting topic here!!, we've got a local field out of the front of our house, and you can tell the regular offenders... there is a great dane which, well you can imagine what thats like we've seen the owners leave it and escape out the far side of the field, there are bins at each corner, so there is no excuse, really winds me up.

i thought it was lime (not the fruit) in dog food?

Lime (calcium oxide) is the broader term for a calcium carbonate derivative.... of which Chalk is also one... and I believe that the white poo was caused by Chalk being used as a bulking agent in the food, which is now banned. (which is why you don't see it any more.... in this country at least!)

 

[Gremlin]

Lime (calcium oxide) is the broader term for a calcium carbonate derivative.... of which Chalk is also one... and I believe that the white poo was caused by Chalk being used as a bulking agent in the food, which is now banned. (which is why you don't see it any more.... in this country at least!)

You do if you feed a dog raw food including bones, used to happen with mine quite often when we had a visit to the local butcher

 

[TriggerHappy]

and thats different to children because.....

Because we raise them so that they themselves can become independent; dogs are entirely dependent on people from birth to death.

 

[neil_g]

Because we raise them so that they themselves can become independent; dogs are entirely dependent on people from birth to death.

not strictly true, if you chucked a dog out into the wild im fairly sure it would cope as a scavenger

(your argument has more holes than my socks )

 

[DemiLion]

Because we raise them so that they themselves can become independent; dogs are entirely dependent on people from birth to death.

Rubbish. If you set a dog free or kick it out, it is perfectly capable of surviving as a feral.

 

[TriggerHappy]

not strictly true, if you chucked a dog out into the wild im fairly sure it would cope as a scavenger

(your argument has more holes than my socks )

Human scraps. Chuck it out into the real wild away from human civilisation and I'm pretty sure it would struggle.

Didn't santa bring you socks? I thought that was what he gives everyone, or have I been lied to all these years?

 

[DemiLion]

Human scraps. Chuck it out into the real wild away from human civilisation and I'm pretty sure it would struggle.

Ever been to Cyprus or any similar country?

There are packs of ferals living there which have to be culled at least twice a year. They don't just survive, they breed and increase their own numbers.

 

[RacingSnake]

Didn't santa bring you socks? I thought that was what he gives everyone, or have I been lied to all these years?

maybe the dog ate them? :bonk:

 

[Hypnorm]

You misunderstand me; I'm an animal lover and donate monthly to the RSPCA. I grew up with a lovely Alsation (oops, I mean GSD) called Ricky. It's dog-owners I detest. (Well, some of them, not all of them of course).
Perhaps if you did my job, you would feel the same.

Don't waste your money donating to the RSPCA they put healthy animals to sleep, and are extremeley unhelpful. They dont provide emergency treatment for stray injured animals anymore at a local vets, wildlife - we are told to take them to a wildlife rescue centre.

And out of every £1 you give them about 90% goes to the fact cats that run it not the animals, you'd be better of buying tins of food for a a local rescue centre who often dont recieve large donations, they always need blankets or bedding and are more thankful than any RSPCA centre.


I agree that kids should be taught about not coming up and touching dogs without asking. the number of kids i have had RUN up to my collie behind her and try and pat her on the head causing her to flinch. she is a rescue and very head shy.
I have taught my kids to stand still when a dog comes up to them, and fold their arms and look away. Not run off screaming .

 

[Evolutionist]

Interesting topic here!!, we've got a local field out of the front of our house, and you can tell the regular offenders... there is a great dane which, well you can imagine what thats like we've seen the owners leave it and escape out the far side of the field, there are bins at each corner, so there is no excuse, really winds me up.

Photo of dog doing its business > Print x4 > laminate > fix to poo bins!

 

[DemiLion]

I like that idea!!!

 

[gabe]

amen to that.

i was on the train one day and there was a guy with a collie not on the lead, it was supurbly trained, led down at the owners feet not battering an eyelid. and people had the nerve to have a go at the guy for not having it on a lead (id put money on them not being dog owners). it did nothing wrong.

yet kids on a train... HAVOC. and no one batters an eyelid.

I quite agree! I also wish they could ban kids from supermarkets. People go on about dogs being dirty, but what about spoilt, snotty little children touching the bread on the shelves? It's disgusting! And nobody seems to give a toss about it. I also can't understand why children who are quite able to walk about on their own need to be put in the trolleys. They're shoes could be filthy for all you know. Human germs are much worse than anything you can pick up from a hound. Give me a dog any day!

:shrug:

 

[TriggerHappy]

I quite agree! I also wish they could ban kids from supermarkets. People go on about dogs being dirty, but what about spoilt, snotty little children touching the bread on the shelves? It's disgusting! And nobody seems to give a toss about it. I also can't understand why children who are quite able to walk about on their own need to be put in the trolleys. They're shoes could be filthy for all you know. Human germs are much worse than anything you can pick up from a hound. Give me a dog any day!

Ooh if we're in to banning people from supermarkets can we ban old people too? They walk sooooooooo slowly, leave their trollies sideways blocking entire isles with no consideration that other people may want to pass them and have absolutely no awareness for others around them when they manoeuvre trollies. Don't know what I'm talking about? Visit marks and spencers or waitrose, or most other supermarkets for that matter, mid-day on a weekday and you'll see exactly what I mean! I don't actually think old people should be banned, but damn I hate getting food from marks and spencers for exactly this reason
Additionally, adults are as guilty as children for handling food. Watch people squeezing fruit to see if it's ripe next time you're there if you don't believe me...and you could always buy the bread from the top shelves or the stuff in packaging

As for people carrying worse germs than a dog. Well, it's probably equal given that we're both omnivores and share the same environment. If anything the fact that humans wash with more than our own spit and wear clothing should count in our favour.
The difference is the terrible stuff you're concerned about from little kids shoes probably hasn't come from people, it's irresponsible dog owners (a minority, maybe) leaving steaming gifts on the pavements for us to step in.

 

[Marc]

I quite agree! I also can't understand why children who are quite able to walk about on their own need to be put in the trolleys. They're shoes could be filthy for all you know. Human germs are much worse than anything you can pick up from a hound. Give me a dog any day!

:shrug:

If they're sitting in the trolley, their shoes should be away from any of the contents and tbh I would much rather they were in sat in the trolley than running around a busy supermarket. Only a couple of hours ago, I saw a toddler run through a set of heavy swing doors into the tesco warehouse following an employee. I hate to think would could have happened if the timing had been wrong and thos doors had swung shut on him!

 

[lawrie29]

I think the OP means children who are sat IN the trolley, not in the seat in the trolley, so there mucky feet goes exactly where I may want to put my food.

 

[Marc]

I think the OP means children who are sat IN the trolley, not in the seat in the trolley, so there mucky feet goes exactly where I may want to put my food.

It was gabe rather than the OP, but if that's the case I would agree.

 

[gabe]

I think the OP means children who are sat IN the trolley, not in the seat in the trolley, so there mucky feet goes exactly where I may want to put my food.

Yes, that's what I mean! It really annoys me. Why should they be allowed to do that? It is quite filthy!

 

[gabe]

Ooh if we're in to banning people from supermarkets can we ban old people too? They walk sooooooooo slowly, leave their trollies sideways blocking entire isles with no consideration that other people may want to pass them and have absolutely no awareness for others around them when they manoeuvre trollies. Don't know what I'm talking about? Visit marks and spencers or waitrose, or most other supermarkets for that matter, mid-day on a weekday and you'll see exactly what I mean! I don't actually think old people should be banned, but damn I hate getting food from marks and spencers for exactly this reason
Additionally, adults are as guilty as children for handling food. Watch people squeezing fruit to see if it's ripe next time you're there if you don't believe me...and you could always buy the bread from the top shelves or the stuff in packaging

As for people carrying worse germs than a dog. Well, it's probably equal given that we're both omnivores and share the same environment. If anything the fact that humans wash with more than our own spit and wear clothing should count in our favour.
The difference is the terrible stuff you're concerned about from little kids shoes probably hasn't come from people, it's irresponsible dog owners (a minority, maybe) leaving steaming gifts on the pavements for us to step in.

So nothing dirty comes from people? Children only walk in dog poo? Never spittle, or chewing gum, or anything that comes from a human? Where the heck to you live?

 

[Mike Jones]

Makes me feel guilty and I'm one of the pick it up brigade ... ALWAYS, tis a way of life and has been for for as long as I have shared my life with dogs; decades and decades of picking it up and popping it in the PROPER dog bin, if I cannot find one then it comes home and goes out the next-time when walking until I find a bin.

However, I'm getting on now and do admit to walking slower, what gets up my nerves is the young lot who have absolutely no respect for the elders anymore. One just the other day with a pair of jeans on ten sizes too big, the ar5e hanging down where his knees were, wearing a hooded top swaying from side to side as he walked, calling his white mate (what rhymes with digger) which beats me into submission. With one of those fighting type dogs who just at that moment cacked on the pavement outside Morrisons supermarket.

Without hesitation I politely asked the young thing if he realized his dog had fouled the pavement.

Rhymes with DUCK ...off old timer and get an effing life ...followed by a sniff, a snort and what sounded to me like BANKER as they swaggered away.

Now that is bang out of order, and I'm supposed to love my neighbor and forgive and forget ....yeah right:bang:

Oh, and hanging the bags in trees is being responsible so people don't tread in it! I actually asked a person once why he did it ...sigh.

 

[TriggerHappy]

So nothing dirty comes from people? Children only walk in dog poo? Never spittle, or chewing gum, or anything that comes from a human? Where the heck to you live?

Pretty sure I didn't state that nothing dirty comes from people. Of course there's the risk of spit and chewing gum as well, but that's only saliva. I'd far sooner have spit on my shoes than crap.

 

[gman]

Standing in dog mess is a pain in arse and we always pick it up if we know he's done a number 2.

But your dog walking over broken glass caused by some degenerate chucking his empty buckfast over his shoulder is not only excruciating painful for your dog but can be costly as well - not to mention the aftercare required to stop your dog biting at the healing wound.

It doesn't make it easy for you to pick a steaming pile of crap up when these little ******s are free to toss away food and litter and smash glass everywhere. I don't see any big signs with threatening fines going up about them!

 

[vixmix]

What annoys me around here is the signs every few hundred yards with "Dog fouling carries up to £1000 fine" etc. but only bins at entrance or visitors centre with miles of paths in between.

That's a bug bear of mine, carrying 2 Labs worth of poo around is not pleasant! My friend bought bags that degrade within 24 hours, they are designed for picking up and slinging into deep undergrowth. She tested one in her garden and confirmed that the bag did indeed disappear within 24 hours leaving the poo out again.

One of my labbies stood on glass before christmas whilst in a local community woodland (deep in the trees is a favorite hidey hole for the local buckie brigade. Split his pad in two. Took weeks to get that to heal.

Talking about fox poo. Mine aren't interested in any animal excrement, however, the LOVE human poo - can't get them away from it. Now how do they find that to eat I'm sure you are wondering:shrug: Well I often walk in local community woodlands which often have car parks or are near industrial estates, which are sometimes inhabited by caravan dwellers. Now when they are present or recently left, my dogs seem to find human excrement within the woodland.

 

[gman]

Talking about fox poo

Now that stuff DOES stink to high heaven! lol And we have a Beagle who would love nothing better than to catch a fox - which commonly involves him rolling about in fox crap with the biggest smile in the world because he knows he'll get a shower at home (which he hates) but will end in a helping of dog beef jerky (which he loves!) lol

He's a sneaky one I tell you!

 

[vixmix]

Now talking of Beagle. I was out walking with my friend and her Beagle today. A little 3 year old called Molly. Got a couple of nice pictures of her too.

My friend really wants to get a litter from her...

 

[gman]

I love Beagles to bits! Nice tidy size, great personalities, great with kids, great with other dogs but can still stand their ground to even the biggest of dogs! Intelligent little buggers as well!!!

Only downside are their noses, especially when off the lead. Ours is ok, he always comes back within a minute or so after picking up a good smell. If he's around other dogs then he never strays and just plays!

His tail is awesome!

 

[UKOz]

Beagles rule !!!!

 

[gman]

Unfortunately, they also get in the way of your photos....

and then take the p**s

before looking all cute so you forgive them....

(he's an American Beagle just in case you are wondering )

 

[Gremlin]

Now that stuff DOES stink to high heaven! lol And we have a Beagle who would love nothing better than to catch a fox - which commonly involves him rolling about in fox crap with the biggest smile in the world because he knows he'll get a shower at home (which he hates) but will end in a helping of dog beef jerky (which he loves!) lol

He's a sneaky one I tell you!

Surely you know the old trick to get rid of the smell :shrug:
Rub tomato ketchup in then rinse off, not joking , it does work

Lovely dog BTW

 

[Evolutionist]

My Pugland, Katie is a b****r when it comes to nice fresh steaming cow pats! Straight in! Face, back all over her!

 

[gman]

Surely you know the old trick to get rid of the smell :shrug:
Rub tomato ketchup in then rinse off, not joking , it does work

Lovely dog BTW

Never knew that, will give it a try next time. Must be better than using a wire brush and dettol.

 

[ladysue]

Surely you know the old trick to get rid of the smell :shrug:
Rub tomato ketchup in then rinse off, not joking , it does work

Lovely dog BTW

Thanks Ingrid. I didnt know that and my Abby loves foxes poo.