D90 vs D7000

D90 vd D7000

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GIZTO29 said:
Ive just been to Jessops to get some photos and a few bits and strolled over for a mosey of the D7000. I was shocked at how big it was compared to my D5000. Not saying its a problem, i just didnt realise the size difference between my D5000 & D90 and the upper priced range.:eek:
Phil
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I've been trying tell you it's big!

You better be taking some awesome photos to make it worthwhile breaking your back like that.
 
GIZTO29 said:
Ive just been to Jessops to get some photos and a few bits and strolled over for a mosey of the D7000. I was shocked at how big it was compared to my D5000. Not saying its a problem, i just didnt realise the size difference between my D5000 & D90 and the upper priced range.:eek:
Phil
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Hey Philip,

Thanks for sharing your pictures...some really nice shots in there, love the kids football pitch one.
I discounted the D5000 (you use) & D3100, but your pics show how important the "eye" is for a great shot and not the latest tech, to be fair as other have said.

I guess I'm just a bit of a victim who wants the best (newest) in reason.
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I preferred the feel of a bigger unit in my hands.
 
GIZTO29 said:
Ive just been to Jessops to get some photos and a few bits and strolled over for a mosey of the D7000. I was shocked at how big it was compared to my D5000. Not saying its a problem, i just didnt realise the size difference between my D5000 & D90 and the upper priced range.:eek:
Phil
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Its the reason why, although I am looking to move from the D5000 on to a D7000?? or D90:thinking: I wont get rid of my G1/14-45mm, its small in comparison, makes a great glove compartment camera.

CJS
 
Inchpractice said:
I've been trying tell you it's big!

You better be taking some awesome photos to make it worthwhile breaking your back like that.
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Sesame said:
Hey Philip,

Thanks for sharing your pictures...some really nice shots in there, love the kids football pitch one.
I discounted the D5000 (you use) & D3100, but your pics show how important the "eye" is for a great shot and not the latest tech, to be fair as other have said.

I guess I'm just a bit of a victim who wants the best (newest) in reason.
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I preferred the feel of a bigger unit in my hands.
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Im confused guys. I think youre mixing me up with someone else. I havnt bought a D7000 or took pics of football pitches but i am called Philip:lol:
 
GIZTO29 said:
Im confused guys. I think youre mixing me up with someone else. I havnt bought a D7000 or took pics of football pitches but i am called Philip:lol:
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I must have looked at some other photos when I clicked on your Flickr.
 
Sesame said:
I must have looked at some other photos when I clicked on your Flickr.
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haha, theres a lad called Phil on my Flickr who togs BBall and i think one togs his local youth team....
Phil
 
Hmmmm would that be me?? Am I getting your praise Phil lol ;)

Thanks anyway if it were mine you looked at
 
I'm surprised the way this thread is going - sure the D300S has more weather seals and has slightly more focus point (15 Cross Type compared to 9 on the D7000) but the ISO noise control on the D300S is absolutely shocking compared to other cameras in the same price range whereas the D7000 has ISO noise control comparable to the D700, good weather sealing and additional megapixel for better framing. To me its superior to the D300S and therefore comparing it to the D90 is a no brainer - put it this way, you will outgrow the D90 long before the D7000 so investing in a D90 could be a false economy if you start the long upgrading trek as your needs grow.

With regards to the 15 versus 9 AF cross type sensors - this is neglible as the cross af points are concentrated within the centre of the sensor unlike the Canon 7D. My experience with the D300S for 8 months was a somewhat disappointing one mainly due to the ISO control but this D7000 looks like something else and I think it will really give the D300S a run for its money despite have a slightly lower fps rating.
 
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phil8139 said:
Hmmmm would that be me?? Am I getting your praise Phil lol ;)

Thanks anyway if it were mine you looked at
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Haha, i think im getting yours!
 
razor777 said:
I'm surprised the way this thread is going - sure the D300S has more weather seals and has slightly more focus point (15 Cross Type compared to 9 on the D7000) but the ISO noise control on the D300S is absolutely shocking compared to other cameras in the same price range whereas the D7000 has ISO noise control comparable to the D700, good weather sealing and additional megapixel for better framing. To me its superior to the D300S and therefore comparing it to the D90 is a no brainer - put it this way, you will outgrow the D90 long before the D7000 so investing in a D90 could be a false economy if you start the long upgrading trek as your needs grow.

With regards to the 15 versus 9 AF cross type sensors - this is neglible as the cross af points are concentrated within the centre of the sensor unlike the Canon 7D. My experience with the D300S for 8 months was a somewhat disappointing one mainly due to the ISO control but this D7000 looks like something else and I think it will really give the D300S a run for its money despite have a slightly lower fps rating.
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hhhhhmmmm, thanks for your replies, this one is leaning me toward the D7000.
I'm starting to think the Kit lens 18-105 + 50mm 1.8D will be enough to start with.

Here's where I am at and what I am thinking....

Is the additional £450 for the D7000 worth it:

- Magnesium alloy body vs Polycarbonate (considering I want to be doing football shoots in all weather)
- Better ISO
- 39/9 vs 11/1 (AF/Cross-type sensors)
- 2016-pixel metering vs 403-pixel metering
- 6fps vs 4.5 fps
- 100% Viewfinder Frame Coverage vs 96%
- Twin Card capability with SDHX compliance
- 16.2mp vs 12.3mp
- 1920 x 1080p (24fps) vs 1280 x 720p (24 fps) - not a deal breaker for me.
- Newer Technology vs 2 year old
- Better Battery (?)
- £1200 vs £750
**did I miss anything??**

& finally
Has anybody had any experience with Jacobs Digital Lens Voucher scheme, is it any good?
 
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Yes or No to Is the additional £450 for the D7000 worth it:?
 
Sesame said:
Yes or No to Is the additional £450 for the D7000 worth it:?
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If it is true about the D7000 delivering D700 ISO quality then its worth it for that alone but the 9 cross type AF over 1 Cross type would also bag it for me.

Also the D7000 supports commander mode similar to the D90.


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Cheapest price I can find is here

http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/prod1633.html

£1129.00

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Also the D7000 utilises the EXPEED 2 processor giving you 14-bit tonal range - at first blush this isn't really useful to you but if you start working directly with RAW images you will be able to extract mode detail from the shadows and highlights making a more balanced image if like me you have a penchant for tweaking the images to get the best out of them.
 
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If you have the cash I would say yes.

magnesium body, two different card slots and just being newer.
 
or just buy the body only for £988 from amazon and buy lens of your choice. For me the 35mm 1.8g is fantastic
 
mjjiva said:
or just buy the body only for £988 from amazon and buy lens of your choice. For me the 35mm 1.8g is fantastic
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Can't see it for that much following your link....???

Can only see it for the standard £1,075.99

I've also heard some scare stories about people buying non-UK products from Amazon.
I've never spent that much at Amazon, but personally what I've bought I've never had a problem with.
Would like to buy from a local shop though.
 
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have a look on the right as the price of £1075.99 is from a marketplace seller not amazon the amazon price is on the right
 
yes the marketplace sellers can be grey import but amazon are genuine uk stock. it says delivery beteween 1-2 months but more than likely you'll have it deivered within a couple of weeks
 
Have you considered buying a Nikon 18-70 AF-S used off Ebay? When Jessops slashed the price of them form around £300 to £150 the used priced dropped and i got mine for £77! Its a cracking lens and said to be better than the 18-105. Its better made than my kit lens and is f3.5-4-5.
Phil
 
i would suggest getting body only - but as others have said watch out for grey imports or out of stocks if not paying close to list price. Lens wise 35/1.8, 18-55 cheapie or 18-70 are all smashing lenses. The kit lens 18-105 seems a tad big to me for use everyday.
 
Sesame said:
So do we think after reading this review that the D7000 justifies its extra £450 price tag?


http://dojoklo.wordpress.com/2010/12...7000-vs-d300s/
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That still depends on what your future plans are :shrug:

As a long term investment in gear...... YES

As a starter kit to see if 'you have the eye' or even passion for photography, Its an emphatic NO.

Personally, if I were in your shoes, the D90 ticks all your boxes, and gives you spare for glass, which is what gets you a better image anyway.

For me, im bridging from serious hobbyist to paid for images, so this is a huge step up to get the rewards.

Phil.
 
In your case I would take D90. It will be a while before you could see the difference and the money could be put towards nice glass. Think about a nice prime / macro, ultra wide lenses that would make a huge difference to your photos. After a while you may want D700 not D7000 so its best to play safe.
 
I`ve just taken the plunge and bought a D90 with the 18-105 lens. I got it from my local london camera exchange and they did a good bundle deal with bag , card and filter. I`m extremely happy with the d90, i did look at the d7000 but decided i couldn`t justify spending that much on the camera when the d90 will do everything i want it to do for now. It also means i can buy some extra lenses sooner as my initial outlay is smaller. I`m probably going to get a sigma 10-20 mm wide angle lens for landcsapes and a 60mm macro lens that should be ok for portraits as well as macro work, then at some stage i may well get the 70-300 lens.
For now i`m just happy with what i have, there`s a lot to learn and play with.

i would reccomend the d90.
 
I'm sure I would like the D90, after all it was 1st on my list when I started to look.

But, I think I will be in a constant feeling of "what I could have had" when seeing the D7000.

Using the analogy of buying a car;
The "SE" is very capable and would do everything I need but I'd rather pay that little extra for the "Sport" knowing that I've got the best for my money & all the bells and whistles should I want to use them.

Today I'm leaning toward D7000.
 
Sesame said:
I'm sure I would like the D90, after all it was 1st on my list when I started to look.

But, I think I will be in a constant feeling of "what I could have had" when seeing the D7000.

Using the analogy of buying a car;
The "SE" is very capable and would do everything I need but I'd rather pay that little extra for the "Sport" knowing that I've got the best for my money & all the bells and whistles should I want to use them.

Today I'm leaning toward D7000.
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My problem, its £450 difference, buy a nice lens for that, or treat the Mrs, or pay a good chunk to the new leather sofa we purchased yesterday?

I have never had more than one + focus point, its never bothered me before. I bought the 'fancy sport model', it uses more fuel, the engine is nowhere near as flexible, IMHO, a wast of cash, to me Mr Average.

So I'm leaning towards the D90, but wait until January, gamble £15-£25? VAT, that Nikon will be offering a deal or three? . . . CJS:thumbs:
 
D90 seems a better option I think.

I was trying to decide between D90 or a second hand D300. Fairly big drop in price for a new D90. Looks to be a good deal at the moment.
 
Sesame said:
Hey,

Sorry, me again...

I've been racking my brain about which Nikon DSLR to go with for a complete beginner...
I've looked at a number of options including Canon kit, but do know I prefer the feel & Menu of Nikon.

After looking at the 2nd hand options over the last few days I wanted to see what the learned friends of the forums think about which Nikon to go for between the D90 & D7000

I suspect I will get the standard answer that I've been hearing alot, i.e. that the body isn't as important as the Glass...let see.
Could I ask you add a comment to the thread too to explain your choice, please?

Thanks for your input in advance.

Regards,

Sesame

p.s. added Other myself d oI ican se the Poll reuslts..
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Have you ever heard of the saying -

'All the gear and no idea'' ?

You already say

'I suspect I will get the standard answer that I've been hearing alot, i.e. that the body isn't as important as the Glass...let see.'

Why ask again?

You already know what you want to buy but you want eveyone to justify your choice by saying how brilliant it is - short answer is the specs you are quoting doesnt mean a thing to you particularly when you dont even know which lens you should be buying.

Why not start simple - see if you like it - read Ken Rockwells forum.

Its a bit like buying and F1 car and you havent even passed your test.
 
Overexposed said:
Have you ever heard of the saying -

'All the gear and no idea'' ?
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LOL, think about it ALL the time...


Overexposed said:
...short answer is the specs you are quoting doesnt mean a thing to you particularly when you dont even know which lens you should be buying.

Why not start simple - see if you like it - read Ken Rockwells forum.

Its a bit like buying and F1 car and you havent even passed your test.
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Thanks, for the reply, exactly what I needed to hear.

So, what would you recommend ?

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Where's the Forum?
It confuses me more as some people speak highly of Ken and some others....let just say not so favorably.
 
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Sesame said:
LOL, think about it ALL the time...




Thanks, for the reply, exactly what I needed to hear.

So, what would you recommend ?

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Where's the Forum?
It confuses me more as some people speak highly of Ken and some others....let just say not so favorably.
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Overexposed . . . was a bit 'over the top' may be? However, he is, in essence right, dont run before you can walk. D90 can be simple, for instance it has preset options to help a novice with camera settings, 7000 does not, and yet, as you grow, D90 will take all the settings you want to put in . . . in other words, the 90 is a camera that will grow with your experience.

Ken Rockwell, says it as it is, he gets a little over excited sometimes, an example . . . reading KR you would think D7000; 'greatest thing since sliced bread' . . . D90 a couple of years ago, 'dont bother with any other camera' . . . :bonk: However, if you dig deeper into his text, he does get to grips with issues, says it as it is . . . but has some wacky ideas IMHO about camera setting in particular?

The problem with Ken . . . if you are new to picture taking, you wont know what is 'KR's' good sense and what is Ken running of at a tangent? Read Ken Rockwell, and spit out the bones . . . :thumbs:

CJS
 
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