D800e

Cagey75 said:
16 shots for a bit of confetti?? Wha? Not much sniping then. And even if, you'll have certainly grabbed the shots required, a minute or so of buffer clearing right after won't be missing much. Also, that's what back up cameras are for. One is clearing it's buffer? well, use the spare ...

I shoot 12 bit losless compressed. I can't see any difference between that and 14 bit uncompressed tbh, bar the massive file size difference. 29mb files are enough for me.
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You don't want to have such a restriction in a wedding scenario. Backup camera is most likely going to have a different setup in terms of focal length.

It's a big compromise but if the user is happy....

I would also use 12bit so will free up the buffer somewhat...perhaps you'll get 2 shots in 20s ;)
 
Pookeyhead said:
I just tried this with mine. Fired off 16 shots, and then it was dead as a dodo for around 20 seconds... then fired another shot... then another 20 seconds... etc,. It took 1minute 42 seconds to clear the buffer totally after shooting 16 shots and then leaving it. A faster card will help, but seriously... this is NOT a camera for those who need to work fast.

A faster card is essential if you're bothered about speed. This was all with a 45MB/sec Sandisk Pro SD card BTW... not not a crappy class 4 card from Tesco.

You really need a fast CF card in a D800 to get anywhere.

This is with a 90MB/sec 600x CF card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CUKp7kXhI8

With a 1000X Lexar Pro in it it would be usable perhaps, but for thos who upgraded from a D7000 and already have a wealth of SD cards, like me.. fast shooting is just not an option.
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That very different from when I tried it. When the buffer filled you could shoot , single shots, after a second or so. Is your firmware up to date?
 
If I can change subject.. slightly.... here's head scratcher.

16GB SD Card. 14bit Uncompressed RAW = 201 shots
16GB SD Card. 14bit Lossless Compressed RAW = 201 shots.

14bit Uncomressed = 78MB
14bit Lossless Compressed = 39MB

How is this even possible?
 
I read somewhere that the D800 isn't reading the card space right, or something [more technical than that lame explanation]. It's not telling you the precise amount of shots available.
 
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Pookeyhead said:
If I can change subject.. slightly.... here's head scratcher.

16GB SD Card. 14bit Uncompressed RAW = 201 shots
16GB SD Card. 14bit Lossless Compressed RAW = 201 shots.

14bit Uncomressed = 78MB
14bit Lossless Compressed = 39MB

How is this even possible?
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dunno how they manage the compression, but the file size tends to vary from 45-52 mb depending on subject and iso.

The algorithm Nikon use for shots remaining is pants and assumes no compression always
 
boyfalldown said:
dunno how they manage the compression, but the file size tends to vary from 45-52 mb depending on subject and iso.

The algorithm Nikon use for shots remaining is pants and assumes no compression always
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It must do because when I choose compressed (not lossless compressed) it goes up to 296.

I'm baffled. Will it stop when it reaches 0 regardless of whether there's space or not? I don;t fancy sitting here rattling off 200 blank frames to find out though... although I think I'll be very annoyed if that is the case.

Can someone else check theirs? I'm paranoid now.
 
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Just had a quick check of the card in mine atm. There are some images on there, but at 12bit lossless compressed it's telling me 507, and switch to 14 bit uncompressed it's telling me 317. That doesn't stack up, but at least giving me a gap in numbers.
 
Can you check the same things I did please? Mine is on 14bit RAW. When you change from uncompressed to compressed lossless, there is no difference in the frame remaining count. On mine, switching from 12 to 14 bit DOES change it... it's just switching from 14bit uncompressed, to 14bit lossless compressed that remains the same.

Cheers.
 
Ah ok, sorry, will give it a shot now

[edit] ok, my number must have been wrong last post, it's now telling me - for BOTH losless compressed & uncompressed 14 bit - 391 images. No change.

32GB card btw.
 
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Ok.. yours is doing the same then.. I can relax. I've just been playing, and it seems to be calculating as it goes along. I have 201 on a blank 16GB card... I start shooting, and it starts going down.. then it will go back up again.. then carry on... then skip a few frames.. then go down... it's as if it's working it out as it goes along. Weird.. and quite frankly, a bit useless. I've never had a frame counter that's a rough guide before.. LOL
 
Just had a look at David Busch's book on the D800 (what he said should apply to any Nikon and probably other makes too).
On RAW recording he says "Compressed. Use this setting if you want to store more images on your memory card".

He makes no mention of being able to store more Lossless Compressed files the Uncompressed files.

My thinking is that with compressed files some data is actually being discarded, but with lossless compressed no data is being discarded and it will be possible to uncompress files to the exact size they would have been if not compressed.
It looks like the space allocated on cards for file storage is the same for lossless compressed and compressed types.
An interesting check may be see whether the "smaller" lossless files get written to the card faster.
boyfalldown wrote dunno how they manage the compression, but the file size tends to vary from 45-52 mb depending on subject and iso.
The colours in the pic will affect file size so comparrison of write times would probably be best done photographing something like a plain single toned wall etc.
 
Hi All, Am looking to buy either a D800e or D3X for landscape and Macro photography. Any advice will be appreciated.
 
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