D7200 -> D750 - Big improvement ?

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Hi,

I'm seriously considering upgrading from my D7200 to the D750 and wondered realistically what i can expect. I've recently starting doing work for a festivals business that does a lot of low light events in tents etc at night. Flash isn't ideal as dont want to light up the tent every few seconds while someone is playing an acoustic set for example.

Have had some good results with the D7200 + Tamron 70-200 f2.8 VR up to about iso 3200 but realistically would like to get up to 12,800 to give me that extra shutter speed as the light drops. This would be one of the main reason to move.

I'd also hope to see a better/faster AF system as do still lose a few images on the 7200 when it's missed focus, and hopeful improvement in image quality on the full frame sensor. Another help would be the tilting screen as i do often have to shoot above crowds and its point and hope at the moment !

Finally the shutter release is noisy on the 7200 which is a pain in quiet events, any improvement on the 750 ?

I realise the lens situation will be a chew but i'll probably run both systems for a while.

Maybe there are other benefits i've missed ? - i will miss the crop sensor for sport as that extra reach is great.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this.

Cheers,
Mike.
 
Awful idea because the d750 successor is surely around the corner now or close enough to make it worth waiting for.

It will instantly make the d750 fan boys declare the d750 old and useless and the d760 will be the best camera on earth according to them.
 
D750 is LOUD! You'll not be able to do much stealth stuff with it, even in quiet mode.

I noticed big difference when I got a D750 body (having been using D7100) low light was noticeably better.
That's if you also get better glass!
Tilting screen is a bonus.
 
I've used both and the D750 is (for me) noticeably better in terms of noise handling. I had the D750 for a while, and then borrowed my mate's D7200 and I was surprised at how low ISO I started to notice noise. I didn't do a direct comparison in terms of AF speed, and whilst I thought the D7200 might have been a touch slower it wasn't a stand out difference. The larger viewfinder of the D750 makes a difference for me, and of course the tilt screen is good for landscapes.

The shutter of the D750 is loud, louder than the D7200. Don't be fooled by the 'extra reach' of crop. Whilst I'm sure it helps in certain situations (ie when printing very large) I ran some controlled tests comparing the D750 in DX mode (which gives a 10mp image) and the D7200 framed the same (ie 24mp image) and at normal viewing size the D7200 showed no more detail. I also found that the D750 crops better so if I cropped the D750 to 1:1 and then the D7200 to give the same framing as the D750 at 1:1 the D750 looked better to my eyes (YMMV).
 
It's tricky because one person's 'night and day' is another's 'not really worth it'.

Getting the D750 will give you the things you want (except for the shutter sound) but only you can say it is worth the money (and you can ignore the silly comment about the D760).
 
snerkler said:
I've used both and the D750 is (for me) noticeably better in terms of noise handling. I had the D750 for a while, and then borrowed my mate's D7200 and I was surprised at how low ISO I started to notice noise. I didn't do a direct comparison in terms of AF speed, and whilst I thought the D7200 might have been a touch slower it wasn't a stand out difference. The larger viewfinder of the D750 makes a difference for me, and of course the tilt screen is good for landscapes.

The shutter of the D750 is loud, louder than the D7200. Don't be fooled by the 'extra reach' of crop. Whilst I'm sure it helps in certain situations (ie when printing very large) I ran some controlled tests comparing the D750 in DX mode (which gives a 10mp image) and the D7200 framed the same (ie 24mp image) and at normal viewing size the D7200 showed no more detail. I also found that the D750 crops better so if I cropped the D750 to 1:1 and then the D7200 to give the same framing as the D750 at 1:1 the D750 looked better to my eyes (YMMV).
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Is the 850 much quieter ? Went to a wedding on Saturday and the photographer was using a D700, shutter was so loud and the lens was rattling away like a machine gun trying to focus, I felt quite smug with my EM-1 ii doing it's business in silence
 
Thanks All - i'm not into paying premiums for the latest tech hence why i'm looking at the 750 now.

That's disappointing regarding the shutter noise, really hoped that would be better. Will test in Jessops to see just how bad it is.
 
Take some earplugs.
 
never been a wedding where anyone objected about shutter noise you can hardly hear it
some people need to get a life
if you put the d850 into live view it is silent
 
imattersuk said:
Is the 850 much quieter ? Went to a wedding on Saturday and the photographer was using a D700, shutter was so loud and the lens was rattling away like a machine gun trying to focus, I felt quite smug with my EM-1 ii doing it's business in silence
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The D850 is a bit quieter, not much quieter though and not as quiet as the D810.

mikeyw said:
Thanks All - i'm not into paying premiums for the latest tech hence why i'm looking at the 750 now.

That's disappointing regarding the shutter noise, really hoped that would be better. Will test in Jessops to see just how bad it is.
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As mentioned above I’ve never been anywhere where people have complained about shutter noise (although I believe it’s an issue at pro golf tees). It’s never been an issue, nor do I think it’s an issue. I think it’s a clever marketing ploy by the mirrorless manufacturers who’ve made us ‘think’ that shutter noise is an issue to give folk another reason to switch to mirrorless.

I have silent shutter on my EM1 and have never used it. I have silent shutter on my D850 in live view and have never used it. I’m not saying there’s never ever a situation where silent shutter could be useful, but not in any situation I shoot in and I think people are making something out of nothing. YMMV.

If you want to go modern FF Nikon and get the quietest shutter then that’s arguably the D810.
 
I bought my D7100 some years back, then added a D7200 to avoid missing shots while changing lenses, then a D750 two weeks ago. The D750 now has had around 1000 shutter actuations and am pleased with it. I tested the D750 shooting a band, The Filthy Spectacular, in challenging light, mainly using the Tamron 24-70 2.8 G2 wide open. Shutter speed was too low at 6400, shot most at 12800 with shutter speeds no higher than an 1/80. Well pleased with the better low noise performance. I shoot a fair bit of Live News for Alamy. In poor light I used to reduce the image long side from 6000 to 4000 pixels to keep the noise down. The D750 will be better here. The D750 shutter is still noisy, but sounds a duller thump. The tilting screen is useful, but I have got used to mounting my cameras onto to an extended monopod with cable release to gain hight and shooting fairly accurately. Decision time now, do I buy another D750 body, currently under £1000 as grey import, or wait and see what the D750 replacement is like and its price. I don't need an increase in file size, but faster continuous rate and still lower noise would be good, which I doubt will happen.
 
steveb said:
I bought my D7100 some years back, then added a D7200 to avoid missing shots while changing lenses, then a D750 two weeks ago. The D750 now has had around 1000 shutter actuations and am pleased with it. I tested the D750 shooting a band, The Filthy Spectacular, in challenging light, mainly using the Tamron 24-70 2.8 G2 wide open. Shutter speed was too low at 6400, shot most at 12800 with shutter speeds no higher than an 1/80. Well pleased with the better low noise performance. I shoot a fair bit of Live News for Alamy. In poor light I used to reduce the image long side from 6000 to 4000 pixels to keep the noise down. The D750 will be better here. The D750 shutter is still noisy, but sounds a duller thump. The tilting screen is useful, but I have got used to mounting my cameras onto to an extended monopod with cable release to gain hight and shooting fairly accurately. Decision time now, do I buy another D750 body, currently under £1000 as grey import, or wait and see what the D750 replacement is like and its price. I don't need an increase in file size, but faster continuous rate and still lower noise would be good, which I doubt will happen.
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Even though they are just under 1000 now they are the least value they have ever been. They have been hovering about there for years.
The time to get them in in the 1st 10 - 20 months. Buying near the end of their life cycle is poor value and Nikon are taking the biscuit for not replacing it sooner.
 
GTG said:
Awful idea because the d750 successor is surely around the corner now or close enough to make it worth waiting for.

It will instantly make the d750 fan boys declare the d750 old and useless and the d760 will be the best camera on earth according to them.
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:D:D:D
 
GTG said:
Even though they are just under 1000 now they are the least value they have ever been. They have been hovering about there for years.
The time to get them in in the 1st 10 - 20 months. Buying near the end of their life cycle is poor value and Nikon are taking the biscuit for not replacing it sooner.
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Just evaluate the camera on its merits rather than what is better/worse than it.

The D750 is still an amazing bit of kit and whether a D760 is released or not won't change the fact that it is extremely capable. Any new camera will be £2k(+) anyway
 
JYC said:
Just evaluate the camera on its merits rather than what is better/worse than it.

The D750 is still an amazing bit of kit and whether a D760 is released or not won't change the fact that it is extremely capable. Any new camera will be £2k(+) anyway
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You don't get what I said if you think I evaluated it on what is better / worse than it.
I'm saying about the right time to buy a model and value and having a camera that is not at the end of its life cycle.
 
buying the latest camera with all the whistles and bells won't help anyone
be a better photographer thats just all hype
its the idiot half an inch behind the viewfinder that can make all the difference
then some people just want bragging rights !!!
 
snerkler said:
As mentioned above I’ve never been anywhere where people have complained about shutter noise (although I believe it’s an issue at pro golf tees). It’s never been an issue, nor do I think it’s an issue. I think it’s a clever marketing ploy by the mirrorless manufacturers who’ve made us ‘think’ that shutter noise is an issue to give folk another reason to switch to mirrorless.

I have silent shutter on my EM1 and have never used it. I have silent shutter on my D850 in live view and have never used it. I’m not saying there’s never ever a situation where silent shutter could be useful, but not in any situation I shoot in and I think people are making something out of nothing. YMMV.

If you want to go modern FF Nikon and get the quietest shutter then that’s arguably the D810.
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For me there are definitely occasions when shooting quietly help and even occasions when I wouldn't use a noisy camera (quiet rooms / places etc) but my main reason for posting is to say that this doesn't have to be a DSLR v Mirrorless thing.

Out of interest, the loudest camera I've had was my Canon 20D, that sounded like an anvil being thrown into a tin bath.

I think other than social shooting the last time this mattered to me was last year in Thailand when I wouldn't have wanted to make a nuisance of myself in a temple or when taking pictures indoors at a Thai water ceremony. I just wouldn't have used a noisy camera at those. It would have rightly been seen as extremely bad manners.
 
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