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Right, I've sold my D3000 - as I wanted a camera that autofocuses with lenses, instead of the AF being built into lenses.

I'm looking into getting a D70s, but have seen that D70's are a lot cheaper second hand - for what appears not much difference.

My question is - is it worth paying the extra for the D70s, and if so - why?

(am not particularly concerned over LCD screen size)
 
D70's shipped with a luverly 18-70 lens! Loads for sale on ebay without lens. John
 
Would my remote control work with either?

And how would I do a firmware upgrade?

Thanks for the help
 
Oh yeah - I need one with a lens, as part of the reason I'm wanting new one is that my kit lens on D3000 broke
 
I believe the D70/D70s uses an infra-red remote control. You wouldn't be able to use any of the standard 10-pin Nikon remotes (MC-20, MC-36, etc) or other 10-pin systems like the RF-602 radio triggers. The D100 didn't have a 10-pin port either, but that functionality was added with the MB-D100 grip. Nikon never released an official grip for the D70/D70s.

Firmware updating is generally done via USB. I don't remember whether the D70/D70s supported this or whether you had to send it to Nikon to be done.
 
It's only a cheap one - not properly nikon - but would be prepared to buy a more expensive one if it would work.
 
Get a D70 with firmware upgrade the screen is .2 of an inch bigger on the 70s :)

Remote is the Nikon ML-L3 around a tenner.

Firmware up date is by CF card and downloadable from Nikon UK web site.

The 18 - 70 kit lens is a beauty :thumbs:
 
thank you so much for the advice!

Have a ibid on a D70s (that I did before looking at D70's) but think I'll get outbid. When I do - I'll be looking at D70's!
 
D50 was first DSLr, amny moons on I then had a D70S...now got the D50 back again. D50 is MUCH nicer to use, feels much better in the hand. It has some refinements as well that the other 2 miss. Superb quality too.
 
lawrenceots said:
D50 was first DSLr, amny moons on I then had a D70S...now got the D50 back again. D50 is MUCH nicer to use, feels much better in the hand. It has some refinements as well that the other 2 miss. Superb quality too.
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I would disagree, the D70 feels more solid and shoots beautifully, but ultimately its personal choice and neither will let you down. I still have my D70s, and I use it, as does my daughter and love it, especially with the 18-70 kits lens it came with. Certainly a D70 wont be much different with the firmware update :thumbs:
 
The D100 feels more solid than either of 'em, especially with the grip. Was just out shooting the one I gave to my dad yesterday, and the wife still uses the one I still have left. :)
 
have you checked the D50 out too...they can be had at bargain prices right now
 
Yv said:
I would disagree, the D70 feels more solid and shoots beautifully, but ultimately its personal choice and neither will let you down. I still have my D70s, and I use it, as does my daughter and love it, especially with the 18-70 kits lens it came with. Certainly a D70 wont be much different with the firmware update :thumbs:
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Fair enough. I use the 18-70 on the D50 (though more so on the 5000) and its great< :)
 
thesmileyone said:
Whats the difference between a D70 and a D80, other than the D80 working with remote shutter release, and there being a battery grip for it ?
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I believe the metering is different, the D70 meters using a 1005 pixel sensor, where as the D80 uses a 420 pixel sensor. Which I believe means the D70 has more information from the extra pixel count of it's sensor to ascertain the correct exposure than the D80.
 
Kaouthia said:
I believe the D70/D70s uses an infra-red remote control. You wouldn't be able to use any of the standard 10-pin Nikon remotes (MC-20, MC-36, etc) or other 10-pin systems like the RF-602 radio triggers. The D100 didn't have a 10-pin port either, but that functionality was added with the MB-D100 grip. Nikon never released an official grip for the D70/D70s.

Firmware updating is generally done via USB. I don't remember whether the D70/D70s supported this or whether you had to send it to Nikon to be done.
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The reason the D70tends to be a lot cheaper is that they had a habit of dying prematurely (Google BGLOD for more info) but generally any that have survived this long are either newer models which didn't suffer from the problem, or older ones that have been fixed under warranty, either way it makes not a jot of a difference.

With regard to the remote, the D70 has a different fitment for the remote from the D70s which introduced the version used on the D80.
 
and d70 / d70s / d50 / d80 and d100 all have in camera af?
 
in camera AF? as oppose to what other kind of autofocus?
 
i think they are referring to an in camera AF motordrive :)
 
Flash In The Pan said:
The in-the-lens (AF-S) kind :naughty:
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Well, I thought they were referring to the motor, but the bit that says "yup, it's in focus" is always in the camera, regardless.

Yes, the D70, D70s, D80 and D100 support both AF and AF-S lenses. I've no idea about the D50.
 
i can also remember reading something somewhere about the D70 having a really usefull flash sync (or flash something or other speed) that isn't available in whatever newer body the author was using :shrug:

hopefully somebody will know what i'm hinting at :bonk:
 
Tirpitz said:
i can also remember reading something somewhere about the D70 having a really usefull flash sync (or flash something or other speed) that isn't available in whatever newer body the author was using :shrug:

hopefully somebody will know what i'm hinting at :bonk:
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Yes, it's a "hybrid shutter". Basically it allows you to go beyond Nikon's typical 1/250th flash sync speed because it has an electronic shutter (similar to how a point n' shoot works) as well as the regular front/rear curtain jobby.
 
without wanting to go too off topic although it is relevant to the camera in question.......

what is it? & why is it better?

:shrug:
 
Kaouthia said:
Well, I thought they were referring to the motor, but the bit that says "yup, it's in focus" is always in the camera, regardless.

Yes, the D70, D70s, D80 and D100 support both AF and AF-S lenses. I've no idea about the D50.
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The D50 also has a built in af motor, it was only with the advent of the D40 that it was sarcrificed in the name of space saving/economy.

The only thing I didn't like about the D50 was the lack of a front control wheel, other than that it's a nice and under-rated little camera and well worth considering as they tend to be cheaper even than the D70 :)

Edit: It's also another of those Nikons (like the D70/70s and D40) that will flash sync in excess of 1/2000 :thumbs:
 
Tirpitz said:
without wanting to go too off topic [...] what is it? & why is it better?
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As I said, "it allows you to go beyond Nikon's typical 1/250th flash sync speed".

Which means you can shoot shoot up to 1/500th with a Nikon flash, or 1/4000th (the camera's max speed) with a non-Nikon flash (although Nikon flashes can be made to work too).

With most other Nikon bodies that don't have a hybrid shutter system (which is all of the current line-up), you have to specifically use Nikon flashes to get into that kind of speed (or similarly expensive alternatives), and the amount of light you can get at those speeds generally isn't as much as you could with a hybrid shutter system.

Basically, Nikon realised that by adding that feature into bodies, they were essentially losing money on other items (mostly their own brand flashes when there were much more powerful and/or cheaper alternatives out there).

Imagine being able to shoot at 1/2000th of a second with a bunch of £40 YN460-II flashes instead of SB-900s at £339 each.
 
thanks for that :thumbs:

i get what you're saying. i'm relatively new to DSLR & not even really delved into using my flash yet. it is something i want to get more into once the eveings draw in.

which starts happening in about 6 weeks :thumbsdown:
 
After all that - I've finally bought - A D70s, that was a good price on e-bay!!!! Sods law!

Thanks for all the advice though :)
 
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