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Hi guys,

It's been a good while now since I've had to write a CV but I=I am applying for a new job so would like to write one.

I don't have an existing one so I would have to start from scratch.

My question is... Does anyone have a good CV template that I could me del mine on op possibly know any FREE sites. Every site I seem to come across requires some form of survey or payment :bang::bonk::bang:

Any help will be appreciated. Cheers
 
You can get lots of templates from Microsoft.

A word of caution though - I'd only use these to get ideas of how to set it out, as opposed to simply editing them with your info.

Good luck with the application though.
 
If you want to PM me your email address ill happily send you mine as an example
 
As someone who has to go through peoples CV's "templated" ones usually don't get that far.
 
If i get a templated one on my desk it goes right in the bin
 
As someone who has to go through peoples CV's "templated" ones usually don't get that far.

If i get a templated one on my desk it goes right in the bin

Im with these guys on 'templates' CV's. As mentioned I'm happy to share mine as a guide for you. Its never let me down (could be the blank area where i attach the cheque :naughty:)
 
When I recruit I pay as much if not more attention to the cover letter. Don't rely solely on your CV.

So many people nowdays for positions advertised online apply for millions of positions. I had 400 people apply for the last position we advertised - if you use a template cover letter and a template CV you strongly reduce your chances of standing out from the crowd.
 
And keep in mind to make sure you relevant keywords and variables to these - if you go through agencies they are likely to go into a database and may often be searched on for keywords in CVs through a database of thousands.
 
When I recruit I pay as much if not more attention to the cover letter. Don't rely solely on your CV.

So many people nowdays for positions advertised online apply for millions of positions. I had 400 people apply for the last position we advertised - if you use a template cover letter and a template CV you strongly reduce your chances of standing out from the crowd.

Thanks Al but I'm applying for a job within the current company I'm working for at the moment.

Sorry to be naive but what is a cover letter>?
 
Thanks Al but I'm applying for a job within the current company I'm working for at the moment.

Sorry to be naive but what is a cover letter>?

Then get them to forward you original cv to the department your looking to work for. Why do you need a new cv?
 
Then get them to forward you original cv to the department your looking to work for. Why do you need a new cv?

He probably has more experience now than he had, and may need to tailor the cv for the role to highlight the relevant skills
 
oh right yes ok i see. Also i notice you never had to supply a cv to gain your first job. Do you know anyone who has a cv you could copy the format off? Just do yourself a favour and dont use a blank template. It looks idol as if you cant be bothered. Most employers inc myself would put it right into the bin without even reading it on the first paper sift.
 
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Thanks Al but I'm applying for a job within the current company I'm working for at the moment.

Sorry to be naive but what is a cover letter>?

A CV will detail your work experience, education etc - sometimes that is all that is asked for in the recruitment process.

I always ask for a cover letter when I advertise positions, including internally. They are used, as opposed to the CV, to indicate why you might want the position and possibly to highlight specific bits out of the CV that are relevant. For example, in your position your CV might highlight that you have the skills for the role, but a cover letter might explain why you specifically want the role, why you think you are suitable above others etc. A chance to sell yourself a bit more basically.
 
A CV will detail your work experience, education etc - sometimes that is all that is asked for in the recruitment process.

I always ask for a cover letter when I advertise positions, including internally. They are used, as opposed to the CV, to indicate why you might want the position and possibly to highlight specific bits out of the CV that are relevant. For example, in your position your CV might highlight that you have the skills for the role, but a cover letter might explain why you specifically want the role, why you think you are suitable above others etc. A chance to sell yourself a bit more basically.

I agree with that 100% :thumbs:
 
No it wouldnt - the shortlisting officer has to have a reason why the application was rejected - 'lack of care in presentation' is a perfectly acceptable reason , as is ' appeared to be copied verbatim from template and therefore of doubtful veracity'
 
That would be illegal ;)

I just tell them they didnt make the first paper sift:D

If they cant be bothered to put the effort in to their own cv then why would i put the effort it to read it.?

If in my oppinion there has been no care in the application or the covering letter or the cv then to the bin it goes simple as that :)
 
This is something I wrote a while ago when someone asked about CVs on another forum (it was a fish-keeping forum, hence the example at the end)..

After working through stacks of applications over the years I very quickly realised the most important thing about job applications, CVs and covering letters.. and it's not told to you by your career adviser..

The first person that reads your application, CV and/or covering letter does not want to give you the job.

The first person has one aim in mind.. to reduce the stack of 200 applications down to a shortlist of no more than six as fast as humanly possible so they can get on with some proper work. They will use any possible reason to reject as many applications as quickly as possible, example of reasons I have rejected applications when whittling down the initial pile of crap that's arrived in the post..
  • Covering letter handwritten in block capitals (ok, it wasn't crayon, but..)
  • Covering letter was aimed at another job entirely
  • Not even close to the requested minimum qualifications/experience (and not even any effort to demonstrate in the CV how these could be met - it is possible, but you have to make the effort, this is why you need review your CV for every job)
  • Fill-in the template CV
  • Haven't updated the CV in several years
  • Suspicious gaps in the CV
  • Lack of personality (no apparent interests.. I expect someone to work alongside this person and I don't want them to walk out because I've just dumped an anti-social zombie alongside them)
  • Poor spelling and/or grammar.. I'm not that good myself, but I do know how to turn the spell checker on when using Word
  • I didn't like the font they used (I was desperate to knock off the last few and get down to a short list.. Courier is a nasty font to read and Comic Sans is just.. well.. would you wear clown shoes to the interview?)
Reasons I've selected one candidate to shortlist over other equally qualified candidiates..
  • Sounds like an interesting* person - I am going to have to interview this person so I need something to talk about.
Oh.. just the one reason here


I'd be interested to hear other people's points of view on the "Personal Statement" in CVs as they're taught in schools these days.. most of the businesses where I've been on the recruiting end have been small manufacturing firms with no full time dedicated HR support, so not blue chip employers with complicated recruitment processes. The general consensus is that the Personal Statement section is something invented by careers advisers and has very little value in selecting candidates.. mostly because it's blindingly obvious that it's either waffle or copied from somewhere else.


* the interests section of your CV..

Bad: "I like reading."
Good: "I enjoy reading thrillers and history books, my favourite author is XXX and I've just finished a book by XXX about the history of XXX"

Bad: "I keep fish."
Good: "I've had a marine reef fishtank for XX years, and I'm very proud that I've raised my first brood of clownfish, it's taken me 18 months to find the right pair and the skill to provide the right food at the right time"

If you get lucky you get someone that likes what you like and you'll have a great interview, even if you're not that lucky you still sound genuine in describing it as an interest.. if you stick with the "bad" it doesn't sound like an interest, it sounds like you felt you had to make something up.

By the way.. notice how the fish example manages to demonstrate the following skills/traits.. research, learning, dedication, problem-solving.. your interests section can really work for you in a good CV.

Something I didn't mention originally but is very important. Put your strengths on the first page. And that's specifically the strengths for the job you are applying for. Not only will the wording need a tweak for every different job you apply for, you may need to completely change the layout for different applications.

Cookie-cutter, fill-in-the-blanks and one-CV-for-all are the best way of getting rejected for the job as quickly as possible.
 
Well said Alastair that is a very accurate description :thumbs:
 
This is something I wrote a while ago when someone asked about CVs on another forum (it was a fish-keeping forum, hence the example at the end)..



Something I didn't mention originally but is very important. Put your strengths on the first page. And that's specifically the strengths for the job you are applying for. Not only will the wording need a tweak for every different job you apply for, you may need to completely change the layout for different applications.

Cookie-cutter, fill-in-the-blanks and one-CV-for-all are the best way of getting rejected for the job as quickly as possible.

You forgot to add make sure your email address is not 'hotmama69@....' or such addresses.

As for the personal statement on the CV, I generally find them useless and full of I'm a team player who can work on his own type stuff. I think it can be useful if it literally highlights the points in the CV specific to the role, especially if a cover letter is not part of the process.
 
You forgot to add make sure your email address is not 'hotmama69@....' or such addresses.

As for the personal statement on the CV, I generally find them useless and full of I'm a team player who can work on his own type stuff. I think it can be useful if it literally highlights the points in the CV specific to the role, especially if a cover letter is not part of the process.

That's just it.. there should be a cover letter and that makes the personal statement redundant. I've just had a CV to review that had both a Personal Statement and a Personal Objective.


A quick advert.. I've been reviewing and rewriting CVs for people for about six years on-and-off with a good success rate at getting short-listed (a good CV won't help you when you get to the interview, you're on your own then). I don't charge but I do make suggestive rattling noises with a Paypal tip jar when someone gets a job after I've reworked their CV.


Someone's already mentioned the Job Centre. I have not come across anyone who has been helped to write a good CV by the Job Centre or who has been given useful advice on how to apply for jobs. The general advice they give is to shotgun your boilerplate CV out to as many companies as possible and then sit around crying when you don't hear anything back. Anyone that's applying for more than 6-8 jobs per week is wasting their time. It could easily take 4 hours to prepare one application. Researching the company and the position, adapting your CV to match, making sure that you know who to apply to (always Dear Mr Smith, never Dear Sir/Madam - you may have to phone to get a name), double- and triple-checking for typos and formatting errors.


A very basic format for Frey:
  1. Contact Details
  2. Work Experience
  3. Professional Qualifications
  4. Education/Academic Qualifications
  5. Interests
  6. References or a statement that references are available
Sections 2, 3 and 4 may be swapped around depending which are your strongest sections for the specific role you're applying for. No more than 2 sides of A4 unless you're applying for an executive or academic position. If you have any weaknesses you must address them, I always remember a friend who had no school qualifications at all (left school at 14). We addressed this in his CV, turned it into a positive and he had two competing job offers. Admittedly, he had a dam good reason for leaving before the exams and had gained a lot of experience since then.

Always send as hardcopy unless specifically told not to, if you send electronically send it as a PDF not a Word document (unless specifically told to do so).
 
Don't really understand why templated CVs would be rejected, every CV has a template of some sort, otherwise it would just be a wall of text. The one I linked to uses established design principles so that it's easy to read/scan.
 
Don't really understand why templated CVs would be rejected, every CV has a template of some sort, otherwise it would just be a wall of text. The one I linked to uses established design principles so that it's easy to read/scan.

Template CVs give a starting point - but you need to tailor it to your specific strengths for the specific job you are applying for.

Off-the-shelf CVs can't do that.

Remember, the first person that reads your CV/application does not want to give you the job. Don't make it easy for them to reject you.
 
I just tell them they didnt make the first paper sift:D

If they cant be bothered to put the effort in to their own cv then why would i put the effort it to read it.?

If in my oppinion there has been no care in the application or the covering letter or the cv then to the bin it goes simple as that :)



quoted so I can take a screen grab and send it to your boss lol
 
quoted so I can take a screen grab and send it to your boss lol

I am the boss. Its my company :D I will give myself a written warning:lol:
 
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