CRB checks and child photography....

The scenario as I see it would have been

Huntley does not get Job
Huntley lives with Carr in another private house
Carr gets teaching job
Girls go to visit Carr
Huntley now has access to kid.


I often ask Students (who are CRB'd throughout their course and placements) the question "so what would you change and put in place?" I would ask this question to people who think the CRB system is flawed. Given that people think it is not very good and most object to being CRB'd every three years, what is a better system for ensuring that children are protected? I mean at a basic level which is what CRB checks are
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I don't think it the actual CRB system that's flawed but they way everyone organization thinks everyone must have one. Certainly there are jobs were people should be checked, it's just some organization have gone completely over board.

For example a local cricket club has been told that to take photos on the cricket ground togs need to be checked, yet there is a public footpath bordering 50% of the ground and even they admit anyone can take photos from there without any questioned, just madness.

These are Guidelines for Photography from Bolton Sports Federation Ladies Rounders League, which are nearly all over 18

1)All young people photographed must be properly dressed.
2) Photographs or recordings should focus on the activity and not on a particular player.
3) Images should be recorded in groups of at least four players.
4) Images published should not be accompanied by full name and / or personal details of the players.
5) Images of a player who is subject to a court order must never be used.
6) Images must never be entered on to a computer.
7) Parents / carers / students must sign and return the 'Images Permission Form' at the start of each season.
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So that no shots with a dSLR, and none of the batter in action.
 
I have just lately taken some pics for a kids party. All the parents where informed and happy, the club was happy and after the photo's I burnt all the photo's onto CD and then formated the memory card. The CD went to the kids parents and everyone was happy :)
I can't see a problem if you just talk to people.
 
I have only had a problem once a one of our kids football matches. At a home match I was taking pictures from one goal mouth and the woman who arranged the fixture from the other team walked all the way around the pitch and and asked the person who arranges from our side if I was one of the parents, the conversation went something like this.

Other team - You should have really asked permission from all the parents of her team.
Our team - asked "is it ok then" ?
Other team - "I don't know you will have to go and ask them all".
Our team - Walks around the pitch and asks all the other parents, who all look surprised and say its not a problem.

Funny thing was our coach was actually doing his FA coaching course on the same weekend and when I spoke to him later, he had just done the child protection module. The FA say that it is polite to ask the opposing team manager and our league does not have specific rules about it ( and they have lots of rules ).

No chance of taking any this morning, poured and freezing for the whole game, eventually called off half way through 2nd half, shame it was the 1st game we were winning.
 
You don't need one !
The people employing your services may request one and are duly responsible to obtain it, you can be fined £5000 FOR TRYING TO DO IT FOR THEM.
It is not for the individual to prove he is not a paedophile
it is for someone thinking of employing/ contracting you to find out if you are, anything else is just buck passing, to go down the road of insisting everyone who photographs children is a potential paedophile who needs to be checked is to stoke the fire that will burn us all.
Bloke with camera = paedophile......
If someone asks for one who is thinking of hiring you, provide your details and let them get on with it.
AND let them pay for it !

And just to clear a few other things, they expire as soon as they are printed, you can't get one done your self if your self employed tog (BFPP used to do this for members) and next year it's all changing anyway.

The newly founded Independant Safeguard Authority will be a new more expensive load of red tape to deal with.
 
If a football match is taking place on public property (and that includes council owned playing fields) then you are free to snap away. You don't need anyone's permission to take images.
The club may well have a child protection officer who is just another memebr of the public. They can request that you refrain or leave but they can't force you to.

It's how you plan to use these images that could cause problems, not taking them in the first place.
 
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