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Full family inclung my 2week old newborn, my 4 year old, wife and the dogs

Only me with whiplash and god it hurts. The rest got a clean bill of health

 
What happened? Glad your family is OK, hope you feel better soon.

The only thing I can say is if it hurts now, tomorrow will be worse.....
 
Thanks all, ice got the front wheel and took the car into the compacted snow n ice and that was it bang up a curb into the post and light box.

Just woke and yes my upper body is painful, hospital gave me some pain relief, hopefully will ease it

Considering the car has traction control, stability and abs, it didn't do much to help yesterday
 
Glad to hear your family all got out of this OK, and sorry to hear of your pains.

Thank God the car stopped with the light box; could have been much worse had it skidded all the way into the incoming lane :shrug: :shake:
 
Thanks all, ice got the front wheel and took the car into the compacted snow n ice and that was it bang up a curb into the post and light box.

Just woke and yes my upper body is painful, hospital gave me some pain relief, hopefully will ease it

Considering the car has traction control, stability and abs, it didn't do much to help yesterday

Glad you're all OK... What tyres were those? All the traction-control in the world won't help if the tyres are wrong.
 
Glad your all ok and hope you get well soon
 
did the airbag go off?
 
Thanks all, ice got the front wheel and took the car into the compacted snow n ice and that was it bang up a curb into the post and light box.

Just woke and yes my upper body is painful, hospital gave me some pain relief, hopefully will ease it

Considering the car has traction control, stability and abs, it didn't do much to help yesterday

Good to hear you're all ok, and the aches and pains will ease. Unfortunately no amount of electronic aids can actually deny the laws of physics, despite what the manufacturers tell us, sometimes, no grip is no grip and you are on the way to the accident, like wail says, the traffic island may well have been a godsend. Suggest another warm drink and stay indoors for a bit longer ;) :thumbs:
 
At least the family were ok,nice to hear.:)
 
As it's been pointed out your lucky the island stopped you. Glad to hear other than whiplash your all ok. You can have as much traction control as you like but unless you have studded tires your never gonna get any on pure ice. I used to have a 4X4 and that was running on m&s's and that would slip on the ice even.
 
Doesnt look like it from the photo posted. Bit worrying if that didnt go off?

I doubt the car had been going fast enough. Airbag sensors are pressure sensitive and will only go off above a certain speed. I'd hazzard a guess that at the required speed for the airbag to have gone off, the car would have gone through the bollard and sign post and ended up on the opposite carriageway.

Glad you're all relatively ok.
 
Full family inclung my 2week old newborn, my 4 year old, wife and the dogs

Only me with whiplash and god it hurts. The rest got a clean bill of health

Glad to hear you are all (relatively) ok - I'm assuming the little people were fine because they were strapped in properly. I was watching one of thos "Traffic Cops" TV shows yesterday and this woman had her baby strapped into a car seat... with the car seat just sat in the back of her van not attached to anything. Her three year old was running around in the front too. Dread to think what state they would have been in if they had crashed :shake:
 
Sorry to hear and see about your crash, Pleased to hear you are all OK, the whiplash does get worse before it gets better, I was in a crash this time last year, and it hurt like hell, I fully recovered from the whiplash in about 6 months, I still get a twinge every now and again
 
glad your all relatively all right
traction control will reduce wheel spin when pulling away
abs will stop you from locking your wheels up under heavy braking and a stability program will help you if you corner too fast or the car gets a bit out of line at speed by breaking whatever wheel it needs to to correct the car and bring it back under control
none of them are any good if your driving through a pile of snow
 
Glad to hear your family all got out of this OK, and sorry to hear of your pains.

Thank God the car stopped with the light box; could have been much worse had it skidded all the way into the incoming lane :shrug: :shake:

yes lucky it stopped where is was, plastic and metal are replaceable.

Glad you're all OK... What tyres were those? All the traction-control in the world won't help if the tyres are wrong.

They are just the standard NCT5, we have only just bought the voyager 2 month ago and first on the list was to rid of them tyres for some thing more grippy. used to driving a V6 so tyres need to be good. little too late now.

Glad your all ok and hope you get well soon

thank you

did the airbag go off?

No it was only this morning i was thinking shouldn't the bags have gone off. wil be having this checked while its getting repaired

ouch. glad your all relatively ok.

cheers, theres only me with pain, got a nice seat belt bruise lol.

Ouch !!!! Glad to hear that the rest of the family escaped injuries, but you take care of yourself. Have they given you a neck support?

Didn't require a brace hospital said as i passed there assestment with regards to movement. have got neck exercises to do though.

Good to hear you're all ok, and the aches and pains will ease. Unfortunately no amount of electronic aids can actually deny the laws of physics, despite what the manufacturers tell us, sometimes, no grip is no grip and you are on the way to the accident, like wail says, the traffic island may well have been a godsend. Suggest another warm drink and stay indoors for a bit longer ;) :thumbs:

i do agree the island was a god send, i feel like crap as my whole family inc our 2 week old newborn. I have run things through my head numerous time as i feel it was my fault or some thing i did or didn't do.

Doesnt look like it from the photo posted. Bit worrying if that didnt go off?

I will be having that checked when getting repaired.

At least the family were ok,nice to hear.:)

my main concern, was the wife and children, and getting them out of the middle of the road. some nice peeps let them await the ambulance in there house.

As it's been pointed out your lucky the island stopped you. Glad to hear other than whiplash your all ok. You can have as much traction control as you like but unless you have studded tires your never gonna get any on pure ice. I used to have a 4X4 and that was running on m&s's and that would slip on the ice even.

snow and ice is a disaster waiting to happen and unfortunatly i hit it.

Glad to hear you are all (relatively) ok - I'm assuming the little people were fine because they were strapped in properly. I was watching one of thos "Traffic Cops" TV shows yesterday and this woman had her baby strapped into a car seat... with the car seat just sat in the back of her van not attached to anything. Her three year old was running around in the front too. Dread to think what state they would have been in if they had crashed :shake:

all the children was strapped in properly with iso fix etc. we never compramise safety, even the dogs was wereing seat belts.

Sorry to hear and see about your crash, Pleased to hear you are all OK, the whiplash does get worse before it gets better, I was in a crash this time last year, and it hurt like hell, I fully recovered from the whiplash in about 6 months, I still get a twinge every now and again

this morning I am in pain but carrying on as suggested, but hospital said i can do to docs if gets more painful and they will give me stronger pain relief.

OMG so glad you're all ok. x
thank you

glad your all relatively all right
traction control will reduce wheel spin when pulling away
abs will stop you from locking your wheels up under heavy braking and a stability program will help you if you corner too fast or the car gets a bit out of line at speed by breaking whatever wheel it needs to to correct the car and bring it back under control
none of them are any good if your driving through a pile of snow

We never rely on electronics but was kind of expecting a little more help lol.

well resting now, getting some christmas films out.

thanks again all.
 
Ooooch nasty bump but as you say could have been worse...hope you feel better soon, take your painkillers and don't try to do too much too soon. Speaking from experience whiplash gets worse before it gets better and even a couple of years down the line I have a problem with my shoulder from an accident where I was hit from behind by a boy racer.
 
I was trying to work out whether it was a voyager or not - recognised the steering wheel!

Good job who had a big car, whilst not a massive bump, the bigger the better in any accident.

Don't beat yourself up about the accident, it was just that -an accident. I used to work for a hire car co and see people who had crashed cars (both there own and ours) and it is one of those things, the only thing you can do is to learn from the mistake - replace the tyres, make sure you always have everyone strpped in and to take it carefully in the bad weather.

I'm glad you had the dogs strpped in, nothing worse than things(objects, animals, people) flying round the inside of a car in a bump.

If you get a hire car as a courtesy one, then you may want to think about paying for an upgrade to a larger model then the little box they will give you. If you do, they play hardball and beat them down on price, they will normally ask for a bit extra for every day you have the car.

Hope you feel better soon, nothing better than a little medicinal brandy to help the pain go....
 
nothing better than a little medicinal brandy to help the pain go....

:nono: not with prescribed medicines!

Hope you are all soon over the shock, it does upset the system for a while.
 
:nono: not with prescribed medicines!

Hope you are all soon over the shock, it does upset the system for a while.

What? Voltarol, Brufen and co-proxamol are great with a nice 12-year malt...:nuts:
 
What? Voltarol, Brufen and co-proxamol are great with a nice 12-year malt...:nuts:
Can't disagree, though I prefer tramadol/MST and oramorph with a few healthy doses of vodka and coke.... :lol:

Seriously though, I'm glad that you're all ok. The whiplash will (eventually) b****r off, but remember to keep moving - don't overdo things and get the rest you need but make sure you don't "baby" your neck and shoulders, cause that'll just cause more problems.
 
Glad you and your family are (mostly) unscathed.

Considering the car has traction control, stability and abs, it didn't do much to help yesterday

ABS is a liability on snow, just as it is on grass. Stopping distances are massively increased over simply letting the wheels lock (which is why I think that all cars with ABS should have it switchable). The other things make no difference in these conditions, the only approach is to be appropriately cautious.
 
Glad you and your family are (mostly) unscathed.



ABS is a liability on snow, just as it is on grass. Stopping distances are massively increased over simply letting the wheels lock (which is why I think that all cars with ABS should have it switchable). The other things make no difference in these conditions, the only approach is to be appropriately cautious.


Im glad someone else agrees with me, that in the dry,ABS actually makes your stopping distances longer... anyway thats not important right now! lol

Glad your all ok mate, at the end of the day the chunk of metal can be replaced/repaired!

good to see you had your photographer head on and grabbed a snap tho lol!! old habits die hard and all that lol!! I'm guessing your not after crit on the photo ;) lol
 
Glad your family all made it out safely which is the most important thing. Hope the whiplash pains go away quickly, just take it easy.

The snow that's built up at the sides of the plowed roads really can get you in trouble if you just even slightly clip it, thankfully that central reservation was clear and stopped you from going onto the other lane.

I was surprised at the ice I came across on the M6 on Wednesday when the traffic came to a stop due to an incident ahead. The ABS kicked on even braking gently but I had a huge gap from the car infront anyway. If it wasn't for stopping though I wouldn't have even realised how slippy the road was - or the other people hammering it down the snow covered outside lanes.
 
ABS helps you stop in a straight line when there's different grip levels under the wheels. A non abs car will spin if you're half on tarmac and half on grass or there's ice under one side and not the other.

ABS was never designed to shorten stopping distances just to stop wheels locking so you can still have some steering input while braking hard.

Cars can be repaired. Perhaps some all weather tyres might be a good idea :D
 
Think some of the highlights are blown and I don't like the crop......needs a bit more space. :lol:

Seriously, hope you are all ok (well apart from the whiplash)... I was told to keep neck and back warm when i got it - don't know how reliable that info is....

At the end of the day its a chunk of metal and plastic etc and can be replaced. Family cannot.
 
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Everyone but yourself are ok and as people above have said it's only a lump of metal and plastic at the end of the day .

But, i have to say , there can be all the gizmos of the day on you car ,the best tyres money can buy but in these conditions(black ice ,compacted snow ) 95% of the time it's driver input thats most important, the person behind the wheel must have control and drive to the conditions ,i'm not saying this was your fault but it's a generalisation, in my experience(i live up in the highlands where we're not blessed with the best gritting service ) the standard of driving i've witnessed this past couple of weeks is both unbelievable and very scary ,i've had a double decker bus come sliding straight at me cars losing it right infront of me ,speed and driving far too close to the vehicle infront .

But i'm glad you sort of got away with it,dread to think of the consequences if you hadn't hit the bollard hope your recovery goes well :thumbs:
 
Ooooch nasty bump but as you say could have been worse...hope you feel better soon, take your painkillers and don't try to do too much too soon. Speaking from experience whiplash gets worse before it gets better and even a couple of years down the line I have a problem with my shoulder from an accident where I was hit from behind by a boy racer.

def taking it steady and got heavy moving cover from work also. office/manual moving job

I was trying to work out whether it was a voyager or not - recognised the steering wheel!

Good job who had a big car, whilst not a massive bump, the bigger the better in any accident.

Don't beat yourself up about the accident, it was just that -an accident. I used to work for a hire car co and see people who had crashed cars (both there own and ours) and it is one of those things, the only thing you can do is to learn from the mistake - replace the tyres, make sure you always have everyone strpped in and to take it carefully in the bad weather.

I'm glad you had the dogs strpped in, nothing worse than things(objects, animals, people) flying round the inside of a car in a bump.

If you get a hire car as a courtesy one, then you may want to think about paying for an upgrade to a larger model then the little box they will give you. If you do, they play hardball and beat them down on price, they will normally ask for a bit extra for every day you have the car.

Hope you feel better soon, nothing better than a little medicinal brandy to help the pain go....

yes voyager, solid car and get a lot for you money, just heavy. we always relgiously strap every thing in and down. you can have any thing on the voyager floor as it would just roll about.

Insurance said we get a curtosy car just going to try and get some thing of a similar size, know i won't get a Voyager curtosy but worth a try for a MPV of some sort.

:nono: not with prescribed medicines!

Hope you are all soon over the shock, it does upset the system for a while.

we will be right, at least we walked away from it.

What? Voltarol, Brufen and co-proxamol are great with a nice 12-year malt...:nuts:

lol, they only gave me 30/500 codeine and paracetamol.

Can't disagree, though I prefer tramadol/MST and oramorph with a few healthy doses of vodka and coke.... :lol:

Seriously though, I'm glad that you're all ok. The whiplash will (eventually) b****r off, but remember to keep moving - don't overdo things and get the rest you need but make sure you don't "baby" your neck and shoulders, cause that'll just cause more problems.

lol, i would love to see there face if i asked for a specific drug.
Doing my daily neck exercises, i look a little funny sat at my desk at work stretching my neck and wiggling my head lol.

Glad you and your family are (mostly) unscathed.



ABS is a liability on snow, just as it is on grass. Stopping distances are massively increased over simply letting the wheels lock (which is why I think that all cars with ABS should have it switchable). The other things make no difference in these conditions, the only approach is to be appropriately cautious.

i didn;t even feel the abs, it does work as it had been on while trying to get on my drive. probs would be better if switchable, like traction control is.

Im glad someone else agrees with me, that in the dry,ABS actually makes your stopping distances longer... anyway thats not important right now! lol

Glad your all ok mate, at the end of the day the chunk of metal can be replaced/repaired!

good to see you had your photographer head on and grabbed a snap tho lol!! old habits die hard and all that lol!! I'm guessing your not after crit on the photo ;) lol

I had to get some pics lol, couldn't help myself, shaking like hell but still managed to take some for the record. i also looked for parts that had come off so i could get them on ebay.

Glad all (mostly ) OK, you will have a GOOD Christmas.........thats an order.....;)

Def need a good christmas, will be my newborns first christmas.

Glad your family all made it out safely which is the most important thing. Hope the whiplash pains go away quickly, just take it easy.

The snow that's built up at the sides of the plowed roads really can get you in trouble if you just even slightly clip it, thankfully that central reservation was clear and stopped you from going onto the other lane.

I was surprised at the ice I came across on the M6 on Wednesday when the traffic came to a stop due to an incident ahead. The ABS kicked on even braking gently but I had a huge gap from the car infront anyway. If it wasn't for stopping though I wouldn't have even realised how slippy the road was - or the other people hammering it down the snow covered outside lanes.

Tell me about the snow and mounds, it just grabbed the wheels and in i went. wouldn't mind if i was driving like a tit, and was an acident waiting to happen. I do agree while i was with the police and ambulance folk, people where thundering past without a car in the world.

ABS helps you stop in a straight line when there's different grip levels under the wheels. A non abs car will spin if you're half on tarmac and half on grass or there's ice under one side and not the other.

ABS was never designed to shorten stopping distances just to stop wheels locking so you can still have some steering input while braking hard.

Cars can be repaired. Perhaps some all weather tyres might be a good idea :D

exactly cars will be repaired, lives cannot be replaced. we were luckly the island was there.


Think some of the highlights are blown and I don't like the crop......needs a bit more space. :lol:

Seriously, hope you are all ok (well apart from the whiplash)... I was told to keep neck and back warm when i got it - don't know how reliable that info is....

At the end of the day its a chunk of metal and plastic etc and can be replaced. Family cannot.

lol, i wasn't keen on the crop and lighting to be fair lol.

Yes i was told to use heat or ice packs which ever helped me. kind of dificult to have a heat pack on at work.

Everyone but yourself are ok and as people above have said it's only a lump of metal and plastic at the end of the day .

But, i have to say , there can be all the gizmos of the day on you car ,the best tyres money can buy but in these conditions(black ice ,compacted snow ) 95% of the time it's driver input thats most important, the person behind the wheel must have control and drive to the conditions ,i'm not saying this was your fault but it's a generalisation, in my experience(i live up in the highlands where we're not blessed with the best gritting service ) the standard of driving i've witnessed this past couple of weeks is both unbelievable and very scary ,i've had a double decker bus come sliding straight at me cars losing it right infront of me ,speed and driving far too close to the vehicle infront .

But i'm glad you sort of got away with it,dread to think of the consequences if you hadn't hit the bollard hope your recovery goes well :thumbs:

thank you, just last night on the same road a national express bus came barging past me, i was doing 30, he left me in his dust,.

well lets hope my aches n pains go soon.
 
had a head on about 2 years ago and air bag deployed
i read somewhere if the steering wheel is turned more than 90deg the bag does nor fire.?
anyway ....all ok = is what counts

ok, effects ...soreness and pins and needles in shoulders 1 week later
my physio said when your body is slammed to a halt, the lower neck nerves can be torn microscopically as the belt restrains the chest - and your head was not de-accelerated by a bag
as nerves ends rejoin/grow you will get tingles ... for months

one BAD thing is to HUNCH over a PC.....:razz:
so 1 hour sessions only ........I still get them

ask your physio for the rubber band exercise
attached to a door-handle, you do arm stretching exercises to build up the muscles supporting the head....good luck....:D
 
Yes i was told to use heat or ice packs which ever helped me. kind of dificult to have a heat pack on at work.

Bujjer them...i got a bean bag from the chemist
heat in microwave, drape around back of neck ...........bliss
 
had a head on about 2 years ago and air bag deployed
i read somewhere if the steering wheel is turned more than 90deg the bag does nor fire.?
anyway ....all ok = is what counts

ok, effects ...soreness and pins and needles in shoulders 1 week later
my physio said when your body is slammed to a halt, the lower neck nerves can be torn microscopically as the belt restrains the chest - and your head was not de-accelerated by a bag
as nerves ends rejoin/grow you will get tingles ... for months

one BAD thing is to HUNCH over a PC.....:razz:
so 1 hour sessions only ........I still get them

ask your physio for the rubber band exercise
attached to a door-handle, you do arm stretching exercises to build up the muscles supporting the head....good luck....:D

I will ask them about that, not had any tingling yet but pain is a shooting pain some times if i move quick or spend too much time at my desk. I try and get up and have a jolly in our publishing room lol.

Yes i was told to use heat or ice packs which ever helped me. kind of dificult to have a heat pack on at work.

Bujjer them...i got a bean bag from the chemist
heat in microwave, drape around back of neck ...........bliss

I think my son has a teddy with one of them heat bean bags in, going to nab it tonight if i am correct.


Having a bitch with insurance, reports gone back with a total loss, insurance saying we haven't got that report, delaying things, no courtosy (spelling?) car, just our legal protection will only issue a 48 hour hire car, better than nothing but 2 days, the voyager won't be repaired in that time.

the body shop said its certainly repairable but theres a threshold and its gone above that so its down to insurance now, weather they want a repair or payout,

sodding ice and snow,
 
have to laugh if only the link above for the body shop repaired cars, lol that cheered me up
 
They always say that American cars don't corner well.

Glad all the family are safe and your injuries repair quickly. Hope you don't get a micra as a courtesy car.
 
If the car is repairable, you could ask the insurance company for a cash payout and to keep the car and get it repaired yourself. As long as it is not being written off for safety reasons, then it is a perfectly legitimate thing to do, although many people do not like driving a car after it has had a bump.
 
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