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Anyone here had this? Or perhaps your nearest & dearest has? My father had both eyes done (by laser) at 70 and wished it had been available 20yrs ago! Be interested to hear any opinions as I am thinking about having mine done - If any experts here I have astigmatism & my prescription is + or -5 (can't find the docs at the mo)
Paul :shrug:
 
there's a programme on BBC2 at 8pm looking at the pro's & cons of this tonight :)
 
Its something I'm umming and ahhing about too - got that programme sky+ing now thanks Cheryl.

I was all for laser eye surgery until I saw that they have to cut your cornea out and then laser it and put it back in first. Plus all these different versions of lasik and lasek and ultrasonic and stuff make me wonder what the difference between them all is. Could be the difference between a kit lens and L glass.
 
A former colleague had it done to both eyes at the same time. It's made a huge difference for her, but I do remember her saying that she had excruciating pain later that evening and had to get the emergency doctor to come to see her.
 
My wife had hers done 4 or 5 years ago - it was an absolutely trouble free operation and 3 hours after the first eye she had perfect vision in it and you wouldn't have known she had it done, a week later same with the other eye!

Goodbye contact lenses and glasses for her!

Although she did have a top drawer surgeon do the job and it wasn't cheap (Michael Grade was in the waiting room being seen before her!!!:eek: )

Me? I wouldn't do it!! Way too squeamish!!:lol:
 
My vision is pretty poor but I wouldn't even consider this. If things go wrong you could get left in a worse state - and although the risk might be small it's too great for me to want to chance it.

Two things not to mess with - your sight and your hearing. IMO.
 
I'd love to have it done but I hate anything to do with eyes.

I can't even bring myself to watch the first 10 minutes of Saw II. :gag:
 
Just talking to a lady last week who had both eyes done only a week before I was talking to her.

A total success but at £1500 it wants to be good..:eek:

Yes I would have it done and definately thinking about now.:)
 
Its something I'm umming and ahhing about too - got that programme sky+ing now thanks Cheryl.

I was all for laser eye surgery until I saw that they have to cut your cornea out and then laser it and put it back in first. Plus all these different versions of lasik and lasek and ultrasonic and stuff make me wonder what the difference between them all is. Could be the difference between a kit lens and L glass.

Matt - Like to hear what that program said as I (obviously) missed Mins post :bonk: - As to the pain etc I don't like pain in fact I'm sure I'm allergic to it but having had a surgeon open up my back & attach a Wallis Ligament to it last year :gag: a bit of discomfort about the eyeballs isn't going to put me off :nuts: - The main issue with my eyes is that I need a pair to see distance & another for reading so using a camera is a right PITA (thank god for AF eh) - some days I wear my readers for taking photos as I can read the LCD / Menus etc but then my view of what I am shotting is poor - other days I wear my distance ones & have problems reading the LCD / Menus blah blah blah ...
Paul
 
I know 3 people who have had it done. 2 of them were thrilled and had 20/20 vision in both eyes within 4 hours. The 3rd was thrilled in the beginning no pain or problems but weirdly needed glasses again about 5 years later. Now I don't know if that is because she had it done when the procedure first came out and it wasn't perfected yet or not. My husband is thinking about it but at the moment the thought of having his eye held open by two spoon like things and then someone cutting his eye doesn't sound like too much fun.
 
I personally wouldn't risk it. You only have one pair of eyes. I hate the inconvenience of wearing specs, but it's really a minor inconvenience compared to the possible consequences if this procedure went wrong. ;)
 
my optician told me that it isn't suitable for my eye prescription. I think he's talking horlicks and probably was thinking about the 1000 quid wifey and I give him every second year.

I really must look into this again.
 
My sister in-law had it done last year in Bristol, along with one of her friends, now all their colleagues (that need glasses) at work are booked to have it as well.

She did however take a long time to give them a decision after the initial visit. They phoned her up every couple of months with a lower rate, she then got a better deal becuase they did her friend as well. In the end it was about half the orignal quote and I think was about £400 per eye.

Her vision is now perfect, but i believe with age the day may come when she will need to wear glasses again, but detiriation should be no different to that of anyone else.
 
OK guys some first hand experience here.

I had this done over 2 years ago. It was expensive (I paid £1700 for both eyes) but was a relatively straight forward procedure. I had an initial discussion with a consultant and then a couple of check ups with their optician. The check ups were fine and my eyes passed their tests and I was advised at that time of the costs. The companies usually advertise cheap prices to lure you in but always say that "with your eyesight prescription it's more expensive".... Absolute bull but there's not a lot you can do. Try and negotiate and threaten to go elsewhere if you wish. :)

the procedure itself takes less than 10 minutes per eye. It's very uncomfortable having a vice hold your head and your eye open and then when you smell your eye burning it is offputting :) (That is true by the way and not a joke). After I got my first eye done I didn't want the second one done but I just gritted my teeth and the second one seemed to go easier.

I would certainly recommend it to anyone. My eyesight prescription was -5 in both eyes. I now have better than 20/20 vision.

if anyone has any questions on this, then please dop not hesitate to PM me.

Cheers
Jim
 
my optician told me that it isn't suitable for my eye prescription. I think he's talking horlicks and probably was thinking about the 1000 quid wifey and I give him every second year.

I really must look into this again.

2blue4u - Optical Express offer a FREE consultation & that involves the following according to their website www.opticalexpress.com/uk (seems pretty comprehensive imho)

Your FREE Consultation

Your in depth consultation involves; the required preparation tests, the examination with your Laser Trained Optometrist and your Patient Counsellor follow up discussion. This is very comprehensive and takes approximately 90 minutes. An Optical Express Laser Trained Optometrist will determine whether you are a suitable candidate for laser vision correction, explain the procedure which is most suited to your individual needs and answer all of your questions to enable you to make an informed decision. Even if you are not a candidate now, you may become one in the future as new technology emerges.

The following tests are used to establish your suitability for laser vision correction. The information gathered from the Wavescan identifies and measures imperfections in your eye providing the Surgeon with a detailed and accurate prescription and optical map of your eyes.

Focimetry: A measurement of your spectacle power is taken to determine your current prescription strength.

Autorefraction: The autorefractor reads how light passes through your eye in order to help determine your baseline prescription.

Tonometry: Used to measure your eye pressure. It is a key indicator in diagnosing the eye condition glaucoma.

Pentacam: Gives detailed information on your cornea (the outer surface). It provides the Laser Trained Optometrist and Surgeon with accurate information relating to the surface shape and thickness of your cornea and how this varies from the centre to the periphery.

CustomVue Wavescan: Identifies and measures imperfections in your eye 25 times more precisely than standard methods used for spectacles and contact lenses. It provides the essential data used in a Wavefront treatment.

Visual Acuity Testing: Measures the eye’s ability to see details at near and far distances. The tests usually involve reading letters or looking at symbols of different sizes on an eye chart. Your uncorrected visual acuity (UCVA) is what you see without spectacles or contact lenses while your best corrected visual acuity (BCVA) is what you see with the optimum correction in place.

Refraction: Your Laser Trained Optometrist verifies your current prescription and compares this to the focimetry readings and previous prescription details to ensure stability.

Cycloplegic Refraction: Specialist drops are used to relax your eye muscles and allow your Laser Trained Optometrist to determine how your prescription is likely to change over time.

Pupillometry: This test takes a measurement of the size of your pupils in the dark when they are at their largest, using infrared technology.

Pachymetry: The Pachymeter is an ultrasound device used to determine the thickness of your cornea in any given location. The thickness of your cornea is very important when determining whether you are a suitable candidate for laser vision correction.

Slit Lamp Exam: This test uses a microscope and a small beam of light to examine closely your corneas under high magnification, as well as your conjunctiva, lids, iris and lens.

Eye Dominance: This test measures which of your eyes is the dominant or stronger eye.

Retinal Exam: Here the Laser Trained Optometrist is assessing the health of your internal eye and in particular the retina. As a consequence of the drops used for the cycloplegic refraction an excellent peripheral view is achieved.

Before a Laser Trained Optometrist is allowed to undertake pre-operative consultations they are required to undergo an intensive training process to build on the knowledge and experience they have gained in regular Optometry. These professionals are then reviewed and assessed on an ongoing basis to ensure they are maintaining the high standards expected at Optical Express.

Only after a comprehensive examination can we determine your suitability.


Paul ;)
PS - Being a cynical sod I wonder from lee's comments how many people qualify for the £395 per eye treatment as it clearly says FROM £395 online & on their TV ad ...
 
the procedure itself takes less than 10 minutes per eye. It's very uncomfortable having a vice hold your head and your eye open and then when you smell your eye burning it is offputting (That is true by the way and not a joke). After I got my first eye done I didn't want the second one done but I just gritted my teeth and the second one seemed to go easier.

I would certainly recommend it to anyone. My eyesight prescription was -5 in both eyes. I now have better than 20/20 vision.

if anyone has any questions on this, then please dop not hesitate to PM me

Sounds a lovely way to spend a morning :runaway:
First question that spring to mind is who did you use for your treatment?
Paul ;)
 
My mother in law also had a success story with this proceedure, however my wife has astigmatism and has been advised the risks are too high. Hoping technology will find a solution in the next few years.
 
Although she did have a top drawer surgeon do the job and it wasn't cheap (Michael Grade was in the waiting room being seen before her!!!:eek: )

Please share the name of said top drawer surgeon and clinic (link?). :)
 
A friend of mine went through this surgery a couple of years ago and he says it was great, his eyes were sore afterwards (he got one done at a time) but after a few days it cleared up and he now has 20/20 vision.

I dont know the exact total he spent on them but I know it was the best surgeon in europe that did it and he paid an open fortune for it. As he said to me though if you're going to have somebody messing around with your eyes you want them to do be good. He just saved up for quite a few years to get the operation.
 
Sounds a lovely way to spend a morning :runaway:
First question that spring to mind is who did you use for your treatment?
Paul ;)

I used a company based in Glasgow - Advanced Laser Eye Clinic.
 
my optician told me that it isn't suitable for my eye prescription. I think he's talking horlicks and probably was thinking about the 1000 quid wifey and I give him every second year.

I really must look into this again.

If you are long sighted there's much less flexibility in what they can do. I'm quite sure if they could have done it, they would have.
 
My mother in law also had a success story with this proceedure, however my wife has astigmatism and has been advised the risks are too high. Hoping technology will find a solution in the next few years.

I actually have diabetes and am prone to Diabetic Retinopathy (damage to the retina at the back of the eye). But my eyes were healthy and they had no issue with this. I tried others and they said they would not do it so worth speaking to a few.
 
I should also advise that as soon as my eyes were done I could see (through the large plastic glasses they give you.

My eyes were not sore afterwards but my vision was slightly burry for a little while - caused more because they were very dry I think.

The drops they provide help to stop infection and the saline drops keeps them well lubricated.

The horror stories you may sometimes hear about are generally people ho did not take the drops to stop infection.

I had no prpoblems whatsoever and to this day still have better than 20/20 vision in both eyes.
 
Being a cynical sod I wonder from lee's comments how many people qualify for the £395 per eye treatment as it clearly says FROM £395 online & on their TV ad ...

Always says From in the ads. It's generally £600+. A friend in work had a -0.2 prescription and he paid over £600 per eye! Mine was -5 and I paid £850 per eye!!

My mate at work used Opyical Express and says he could not recommend them highly enough. Great service from start to finish with very enthusiastic staff (probably on a bonus :))
 
I have Asitgmatism and auto immune probs so was advised by Boots optician to not even think about having laser.
He said a side effect of laser treatment was a slight drying of the eyes but I already have excessive eye dryness so didnt look into it any further.

I do have a friend who had laser treatment, and a few years on she has started to wear her glasses to read again.
Also received this Pm from someone on another forum when I first began considering it ....

Hiya Glo,
I don't know whether or not you read my thread about Contact Lenses ages ago?
I mentioned back then that i had been thinking about having my eyes done, but I chickened out in the end!
However - the problem still remained - I HATE wearing glasses and contact lenses.
I researched the whole thing very thoroughly and started off with the clinic OPTIMAX. I sent off for their info and read it all through - but the (possible) side effects put me off. Optimax normally run a special offer and at this time it was £590 for both eyes. There are basically three types of surgery to have, three different price levels. The cheapest is normally the most painful - requiring about 3 days in bed to recover and alot of pain killers, the most expensive treatment (which I had) has about 4/5 hours of discomfort - mainly due to the anisthetic eye drops as they make your eyes feel very heavy for a while.
I did book to go with Optimax then chickened out!
About September time last year I started thinking about it again, so i contacted ULTRALASE. They seemed alot more professional and seemed to have carried out so many more treatments and had more thorough research. Their machines were bang up to date and I was very impressed by the service. Most importanly for me they were highly recommended by a few friends. So I went ahead. I was still worried and thought "What if i go blind" "what if my night vision is permanantly crap" (another side effect) etc etc but i went for it. I paid £2995 for both eyes but had the best surgery available - which enhances your night vision so you don't have glare (although this takes a year to settle down).
I came home from the surgery and went to bed for 2 hours and was more or less fine. My eyes were dry and itchy for about 2/3 weeks afterwards but you CAN NOT itch or rub them for 2 weeks - which was really hard! I had to wear see through plastic eye pads for 2 weeks at night so I didn't rub my eyes. Im not sure about the dry eye thing being a contra indication, I was asked if i suffer from dry eyes though - and I said i did occasionally they just said it would become worse for a few weeks.

I would suggest going for your free consultation - ask all the questions that you want to ask and see how you feel. Im sure Optimax do too - but Ultra lase offer up 5 years interest free credit - with payments starting at £24 a month. Before you book anywhere - type "Laser Eye Surgery" into ebay - and you then get access to all the cancellation appointments which they cannot sell on the normal website as there would be uproar with exsisting clients who had paid full price!! Shame I didn't find this out tho till AFTER!!!!


Be interested to hear what your decision is, after reading everyones input, and if you decide to go for it, keep us informed of how it goes.
Good luck!
 
Why are there loads of jobs that you cant do after having this procedure done??

remember reading about it but cant remember the jobs
 
I've heard of a guy who had the operation that needed to cut the eye open. Apparently, the cut doesn't really heal up and will always be there. He then went mountain climbing. At some point, the air pressure dropped to a level where his eyes went funny shaped. :eek: He had to be led down the mountaing as he couldn't see. I think he recovered after that, but... :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
I have Asitgmatism and auto immune probs so was advised by Boots optician to not even think about having laser.
He said a side effect of laser treatment was a slight drying of the eyes but I already have excessive eye dryness so didnt look into it any further.

I do have a friend who had laser treatment, and a few years on she has started to wear her glasses to read again.
Also received this Pm from someone on another forum when I first began considering it ....

Laser treatment cannot repair old age to eyes. that's why reading glasses will be required later in life.

Also i have no problems with dry eyes. it was only post op that they were dryer than normal. Saline drops cured that.
 
Why are there loads of jobs that you cant do after having this procedure done??

remember reading about it but cant remember the jobs

Not sure this is the case any more?
 
I've heard of a guy who had the operation that needed to cut the eye open. Apparently, the cut doesn't really heal up and will always be there. He then went mountain climbing. At some point, the air pressure dropped to a level where his eyes went funny shaped. :eek: He had to be led down the mountaing as he couldn't see. I think he recovered after that, but... :eek: :eek: :eek:


The "cut" does heal up.

"A highly precise instrument called a microkeratome is used to make an ultra-thin flap (no thicker than a piece of clingfilm) in your cornea. The flap is "opened" (like the cover of a book) so that the laser can be used to shape the cornea underneath.

The computer-controlled laser, which is known as an excimer laser, will take about 30 seconds to remove precisely the right amount of corneal tissue. The flap will then be repositioned and will bond to the rest of the cornea within minutes. You will not need stitches."

This does take time to heal properly but it does. As a diabetic I have my eyes checked annually and now the doctor/optician can't see any scar at all....
 
OE rang me today after I clicked a few boxes online last night - Will be heading to Reading next week for the assessment & make a decision based on what I need or can have done / price / fear (like I said I am allergic to pain but if there's a decent long-term gain blah blah blah ...)
Thanks for all the replies (so far) Paul :thumbs:
 
I've been thinking about having this done for years, but have always chickened out for 2 reasons;
1. I have an absolute fear of anyone doing anything with my eyes, I can't even watch an eye operation on TV or anyone putting contact lenses in.:(
2. I keep thinking 'what if they bring some other treatment out in a few years which is better / more permenant / less risky'.
I know it will be perfect for most people, but I'm too chicken :help: :)
 
there is no feeling regards to pain whatsoever. The anaesthetic works very well and that is just a few eye drops. You don't feel a thing in your eye.

What I will say is that it is uncomfortable bceause there's a couple of clamp like devices holding your head steady and your eye open. they are forced onto your face pretty hard but it's not "painful" as such.

Once the procedure starts you can only really see out of one eye so you don't see much of what's going on and it's really over very quickly.

The only hint of the laser is the very slight burning smell of your eye as it is reshaped.

Don't be chicken. It gives a fantastic freedom.
 
*snip*
As a diabetic I have my eyes checked annually and now the doctor/optician can't see any scar at all....

Where did you get it done ?? , I'm a Diabetic & they refused to do it on the grounds of "we've never done a diabetic & don't know if your head will explode"

I use the contact lenses that you leave in for a month & I had to get a doctors note before my optician would give me them :bang:
 
Where did you get it done ??


The lady I spoke to was tested in Sheffield (Meadowhall Centre) and the treatment was done in Leeds one week later..:)

All done and finished in minutes. A total success.;)
 
Where did you get it done ?? , I'm a Diabetic & they refused to do it on the grounds of "we've never done a diabetic & don't know if your head will explode"

I use the contact lenses that you leave in for a month & I had to get a doctors note before my optician would give me them :bang:

I got mine done in the Advanced laser Eye Clinind in Glasgow. Not actually sure if they are still there.

i was the first diabetic they had done too and advised that so long as your eyes are healthy then there is no reason not to have them done.

Diabetic Retinopathy is something to watch out for as if your sugars are imbalanced, the very small blood vessels in your eyes get clogged up with sticky blood (sugar). Eventually they will burst if you do not have your sugars under contorol (sounds bad). This becomes a problem when these minute bursts (size of a pin head) appear all over the back of your eyes.

Now laser reatment should not impact on this if your eyes are indeed healthy but these companies just don't want to take any risk with a diabetics eyes.

When was the last time your eyes were checked? Are they always clear? If so go to your doctor and see if he'll write a note that you can take to a laser eye clinic. I know I tried a few and neither Optical Express nor Boots would take me.

But the Advanced LEC were fine and the optician gave my eyes a thorough check before recommending me.

Good luck in finding one.

CHeers
Jim
 
AS for not being able to do certain jobs I know you can now be a fighter pilot after having it done and the US Army will even pay for it in some occupations so I'm thinking that there can't be many jobs who wouldn't be ok with it.
 
I think some organisations a little curious about it when it first started but not really an issue now. Really amazing what can be done. I could not see any more than about 4" from my face and everything else was a blur!!! Now perfect vision :)
 
Wish I could have mine done. I'm a -12, which is somewhere around 20/6000. Blind photographers are in high demand these days.

- CJ
 
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