Controversial Topic: What irks you about other photographers?

big soft moose said:
if you were already sure that your picture was brilliant why did you post it for critique ?
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LoL seriously did you even read what you quoted?

I'm not aware of the post where I said it was a brilliant picture (I've never used that word in association with any of my pictures) or the post where I said I rejected the critique. All I said was I liked it and still do but you put words into my mouth if you like!

I only ever put pictures up here that I like and why would I stop liking them just because others don't? I knew my chosen dof would be a bit marmite but I had hoped a few more would like it hardly means my choice was wrong though :)
 
Phil Young said:
You put it up for critique, not to get applause.

...You were within your rights to disregard any contradictory advice though.
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Yet again where did I say I put it up for applause? Surely everyone hopes people will like there shots especially if it's one you think is decent? What is it with this place and the aggressive negative spin today?

I put up a picture I liked and thought was good to see what others thought, i was disappointed not many people liked it. I took people's comments on board and understand their opinions but I still like the shot is it really that hard to grasp?
 
a1ex2001 said:
I took people's comments on board and understand their opinions but I still like the shot is it really that hard to grasp?
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Critique shouldn't ideally be about liking or disliking, but understanding and appreciating - and commenting on where an improvement could be made. I've suggested alterations in the past (not necessarily on this forum) to photographs that I disliked as posted and would dislike even if all my suggestions were implemented. So long as you fail to make this distinction, I can't see quite what you hope to get out of critique, since I doubt anyone could make you actually dislike a photo that you liked.

Surely the primary aim should be to improve, not to get a few pats on the back because people like your photos; you shouldn't be disappointed if people don't like them. You should be disappointed on the other hand if you put them up for critque and everyone says "great shot!" or "I loved it" because that tells you nothing, and won't help you. Except as an ego booster, of course.
 
Haven't been on Talk Photography in a fair while & I've been catching up reading through this topic so excuse my just jumping in here.

Phiggys said:
1. Secretive Photographers who won't share any of there locations knowledge or techniques, and have no interest in helping other togs progress..
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Definitely a hate of mine!
I like to find my own way of doing things rather than follow the conventional path but occasionally someone asks how I did that & I'm happy to share. Likewise, I've seen various interesting photographs & wondered how to achieve it only to be told it's a personal technique & I should find my own style. It's in actual fact nothing to do with copying your style, I'm just curious & like to experiment with new things, chances are I'll take your technique & put my own twist on it. We're all creatives in this industry, creating things. Photographers (not all) can be touchy creatives, I've never heard of a painter saying "erm, thats the way I hold my paintbrush & apply the paint, are you trying to copy my style?"

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Have just come across this thread and must admit to not having read the whole thread, but I have to say that there is nothing that irks me about other photographers. I shoot for me and what others do makes no difference to that.

Mind you, there is plenty that irks me about other people... ;)
 
StephenM said:
Critique shouldn't ideally be about liking or disliking, but understanding and appreciating - and commenting on where an improvement could be made. I've suggested alterations in the past (not necessarily on this forum) to photographs that I disliked as posted and would dislike even if all my suggestions were implemented. So long as you fail to make this distinction, I can't see quite what you hope to get out of critique, since I doubt anyone could make you actually dislike a photo that you liked.

Surely the primary aim should be to improve, not to get a few pats on the back because people like your photos; you shouldn't be disappointed if people don't like them. You should be disappointed on the other hand if you put them up for critque and everyone says "great shot!" or "I loved it" because that tells you nothing, and won't help you. Except as an ego booster, of course.
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Words.......mouth........again!

It's amazing, I'm out.
 
Have to say I'm with alex on this.

He made one comment about being criticised for one aspect of one picture that he disagreed with.

That's been turned into, he thinks his image was perfect or that he doesn't know how to take critique.

Sorry chaps, but I would invite you to reconsider what Alex said, and your responses.
 
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simon ess said:
Have to say I'm with alex on this.

He made one comment about being criticised for one aspect of one picture that he disagreed with.

That's been turned into, he thinks his image was perfect or that he doesn't know how to take critique.

Sorry chaps, but I would invite you to reconsider what Alex said, and your responses.
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It's not that he disagreed with it, it's the "I thought more people would have liked it" which leads me to believe (as someone that doesn't even know the thread in question) that he would post an image not for tips on how to improve it, bit for "nice shot" 's.

I can only echo this as it's so true;

StephenM said:
Critique shouldn't ideally be about liking or disliking, but understanding and appreciating - and commenting on where an improvement could be made.
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End of the day, it's about taking what you think is constructive and leaving that which is not.

Problem is the catch 22; the more closed minded you are to listening to what others say, the less likely you are to improve. On the other hand, they might be wrong and perhaps it wouldn't make a nicer image.
 
Phil Young said:
It's not that he disagreed with it, it's the "I thought more people would have liked it" which leads me to believe (as someone that doesn't even know the thread in question) that he would post an image not for tips on how to improve it, bit for "nice shot" 's.
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Exactamundo - Ive no problem with people not taking critique on board if they disagree with it, but it dos get a bit irritating (talking generally not about alex specifically) when you go out of your way to give detailed crit , and the response is "yeah well I like it like it is" - if you like it like it is and don't think it can be improved (and ergo just want to show off how 'orsum' you are with a camera) then put it in photos for pleasure.

If you choose to put it in the crit boards you've got to expect crit, and it won't all be favourable - by all means disagree with it , but at least think about it first and say why you disagree in objective terms rather than " I like it and my mummy likes it and all my friends think I'm great so ya boo sucks"
 
Oh, I totally agree with what you're saying about receiving crit.

I just thought comments to Alex's post were coming across as a bit unbalanced.
 
People who dont accept that everyone has an opinion.. I think digital is better than film but its my opinion if people disagree then ok.. but you dont need to say or protest about it.

And photographers who believe FF and L lenses are the only way to do things. I was out recently and was tlkin to a guy (seemed nice at 1st) when I took my camera out he seemed a lil disgusted (I shoot with a nikon) he shot with a canon. He then said is it FF? To which I said no and his priceless reply was "oh dear" what a nob
 
PMN said:
I'm guessing you've never drum scanned a frame of medium or large format film? ;)
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No cant say I have. And medium or large format is the most awkward way of doing photography especially landscapes. And nope digital still better :p
 
1 - People who only want to do things the easy way. Where's the fun in that?
2 - People who get annoyed at making mistakes. I find that I learn far more by making horrific cockups than by doing it right the first time, yes it can get disheartening but getting it right is so much more rewarding.
3 - (Tied in with 2) People who take it far too seriously. Like seriously, lighten up.
 
People who praise the hell out of an ordinary or crap photo, Clearly they are just Bessie mates or part of a club. Get real give them the proper critique they deserve!
 
Some great comments here thus far so time to add mine.

I won't criticize anyone for what gear they do or don't have or what their level of photography is or isn't as people do what they can with what they have the budget for. Photography is something that most people can now afford do do in one form or another and should be enjoyed for what it is which for most is a fantastic hobby.
I nearly died six years ago so whether someone is better than someone else with a camera is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things to me. Photography for me was part of my rehabilitation and in the last few years I have captured some wonderful memories that will stay with me. Though I am not a prolific poster, this forum has been a godsend to me in what I've learnt and applied to my method/style.

Now to my gripe lol, what I really don't like are those people that think you cannot take a decent image because you failed to invest all your money in either Canon or Nikon....get a grip people and enjoy your photography, St. Peter won't differentiate at the pearly gates just because you don't have a 500DDDDDsss or D900000 whatever.....I have a couple of Sony cameras that I'm more than happy with so enjoy your Canon, Nikon or whatever as I do my Sony.

Here endeth the sermon on the "A" mount. Just for the record, i'm probably not very good with a camera but I sure as hell enjoy whatever it is I do with it :D
 
Those who get infront of you just as your about the take a photo or video
 
For me, I absolutely hate wedding photographers who post topics with "absolutely amazing wedding, best ever!" Then show a single image that was chimped out of a few thousand during the day. The rest of the shots then follow to look like any other decent wedding photographer with the usual boring storyboard style, bleached tones and tiny people compositions. Then a load of sheep come by saying it's the best they've ever seen lol. Seriously, why do people like this **** for their record of the most important day of their lives, to show their kids and grand children in the future? Can just imaging them squinting at the photo with tiny people stood either side of a door with a bland bleached skyline and saying "who are those two dolls grandad?"

Utter rubbish
 
James J said:
For me, I absolutely hate wedding photographers who post topics with "absolutely amazing wedding, best ever!" Then show a single image that was chimped out of a few thousand during the day. The rest of the shots then follow to look like any other decent wedding photographer with the usual boring storyboard style, bleached tones and tiny people compositions. Then a load of sheep come by saying it's the best they've ever seen lol. Seriously, why do people like this **** for their record of the most important day of their lives, to show their kids and grand children in the future? Can just imaging them squinting at the photo with tiny people stood either side of a door with a bland bleached skyline and saying "who are those two dolls grandad?"

Utter rubbish
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Feel better for that? :D
 
This place has given me a Pavlovian aversion to street photography.

So much of what is offered as street photography is just quotidian, themeless, bilge. An old man sitting on a bench? Who cares. An unremarkable busker? Give me strength.

But, hey, if you convert your snapshot of a woman carrying some shopping bags into black and white people will think you're HCB. Right?
 
What annoys me is people who have to find a way to slag of other peoples work and feel threatened by it so much so they need to stress they aint real! Who gives a s***. If you feel there level is below par use that as a guideline to be better than that and your onto a winner? Also people that are jealous of others who are selling there work and making money although they think there images arent worthy. End of the day they are paying the bills and whilst your moaning there counting notes. Let them do them and you do you.

Too many moaning bastards
 
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martinfuge said:
Another for me is ignorant photographers when you see another photographer on location and say hello and they ignore you and look at you to say this is my shot location.
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Oh yes, I can relate to that. One morning I was taking some sunrise shots of Snowdon. Ten minutes after I had set up the camera and tripod another photographer approached and set up his gear five feet away from my location ! I said hello around three times without an acknowledgement. When I said how ignorant it was not to reply he said "I thought you were talking to your dog"

Pet hate of mine..members on this forum who often criticise peoples work when I'm sure they hardly get off their lardy butts to take and images themselves !
 
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People who consider themselves technically competent who are actually quite clueless, lack of empathy for others efforts wherever they may be on their own artistic journey. Those who don't understand a subjective comment from an objective one. The lack of grammar, spelling and punctuation is really painful as the author's intentions are often lost in ambiguity. So many who think they are so good but, in fact, are not, on so many levels.
 
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Darwinean_JohnUK said:
People who consider themselves technically competent who are actually quite clueless, lack of empathy for others efforts wherever they may be on their own artistic journey. Those who don't understand a subjective comment from an objective one. The lack of grammar, spelling and punctuation is really painful as the author's intentions are often lost in ambiguity. So many who think they are so good but, in fact, are not, on so many levels.
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So to cut a long story short...

Arrogant people that can't spell? Lol
 
Darwinean_JohnUK said:
People who consider themselves technically competent who are actually quite clueless, lack of empathy for others efforts wherever they may be on their own artistic journey. Those who don't understand a subjective comment from an objective one. The lack of grammar, spelling and punctuation is really painful as the author's intentions are often lost in ambiguity. So many who think they are so good but, in fact, are not, on so many levels.
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I take it your basic grammar error here was intentionally ironic?
 
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