Conservation and Shooting.

Well, as you know, my skills at ID`ing little birds are poor, to say the least...........:D
 
I'm more into Townie birds who need a good cough in the morning before they get moving. :lol:
 
Off for a night watching badgers, well hopefully..............:thumbs:

03:00........epic failure, what a dunce...............:bang:
 
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fracster said:
Off for a night watching badgers, well hopefully..............:thumbs:

03:00........epic failure, what a dunce...............:bang:
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I really admire your work on this thread, your shots are brilliant and the dedication to spend almost all night in the great outdoors trying to take picutures is brilliant even if you come back with nothing and in this case you were empty handed. I'm just getting in to photography and wildlife is by far the most i enjoy but the problem is whenever i try and take a shot of a bird for example, it just flies away. It's very frustrating and i don't have a big lens in which i can zoom in on it but i will just have to live without for now. Hopefully i can get some decent shots in the future not with the kind of animals you find though there's no roe's or even otter's where i live. Anyway goodluck in the future i hope you get some shots of those badgers soon:lol:
 
Couple from today.

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Should have said, I had to move the riverbank hide today, access to it is next to one of the big pheasant pens.The keeper didn`t ask me to, but I know he will be happier if his birds are disturbed as little as possible. So I moved it, we get on OK and help each other out,so it seemed the fairest thing to do.
 
Juvenile dipper from this morning.Couldn`t be bothered to take my camera, so just took the little camcorder.


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Great set Ade
But the Fawn takes it for me very "natural" looking :thumbs:
 
I have missed the Peregrine young leaving the nest............:bang:.........busy three weeks workwise and they have now gone. Ah well, next year.........:thumbs:

But I did see this youngster knocking about, pretty sure it is a juvenile Stonechat........:shrug:


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These two were pretty much grabshots, tried fior summat a bit different with the jackdaw and a gratuitous PF shot,check all the feathers lying about..........:D


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Good set there, Ade.
Getting quite a variety of birds.
 
markyboy.1967 said:
Ade are the juv. Peregrines still not hanging around the area. Ours fledged a week ago and are seldom more than a few hunderd meters away from the nest site and still being fed by the parents.
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I have sat for two hours today and countless yesterday Mark, only seeing the adults. Ours are a bit further ahead than yours due to the difference in weather.

I hope i`m wrong..................:)
 
No sign of young on either of the four local nest sites mate, general consensus is that they have flown the nest,b****r.
 
markyboy.1967 said:
I take it you havent saw the parents feeding them then? I thought Pers were fed by the adults for quite some time after fledging the nest and before being driven off to fend for themselves..may be wrong though.
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Talking to two moorland keepers tonight and they say the young are still about,they work the land daily and see more than I do,so gotta trust them on this.Seems I was wrong and have just missed seeing them,I shall return ASAP Mark.
 
Adult and juvenile I believe.


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Hartley Hare sticking his tongue out..


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I found something today that was pretty crappy, will follow up and find out more before posting anything up here, if I can at all. It involves a dead protected creature.......:thumbsdown:
 
Dead badger Mark, stuffed in a hole and covered with stones and loose soil. Last time I looked, badgers don`t bury their own kind nor have burial rites.


I have asked questions, forcibly, to all concerned and will continue to do so.
 
fracster said:
Dead badger Mark, stuffed in a hole and covered with stones and loose soil. Last time I looked, badgers don`t bury their own kind nor have burial rites.
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Suicide then! ;)

Seriously... any sign of cause of death?
 
CT said:
Suicide then! ;)

Seriously... any sign of cause of death?
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No, but badgers don`t die in holes and cover themselves with rocks, stones and loose soil.I spotted a sett that few know about, it had a lot of activity showing.Activity that was not right to me, so I spent two hours digging loose rock and soil out, the stench was getting worse, then the spade was picking up badger fur. I then got to the body,less than a week old, full of beetles and other things.

So three people now know the location, let us see what happens to the carcass by tomorrow,If it has gone, then it can be narrowed down to two guilty parties, though i`m sure I know who did it as he could not look me in the face and told me a pack of lies.

Though he was made to understand my feelings on the subject..........:)
 
You're not saying it was killed in the sett then - (that sound like a lot of digging just to hide the body) in which case you'd have to suspect a dog or dogs being used. Does this geezer have suitable dogs?
 
Sorry mate, I have full tetch on about this just now.I am more than angry, I thought this crap had gone with the last "Keeper/idiot"

The badger has been killed, shoved down a hole and left. The hole has been covered in loose rock and soil, the sett is literally 10 feet away.I, and the old keeper are going to have a look tomorrow, if the corpse has gone, then we know who it is, we can`t prove it, but we will know.

And NO, he does not have suitable dogs, which ,I hope, lets him off the hook. But his actions, personna and attitude when I asked him about it, showing him the evidence,leads me to believe otherwise.

All in all, a **** day.
 
Scumbags mate... I know of a guy who got 12 months for just having a couple of Badger hairs in the boot of his car.

These people are the lowest form of human life in my humble opinion, no pity for the Badger or for their own dogs either.

This doesn't make pleasant reading...

Apart from the cruelty towards badgers, dogs are also brutalized in the blood sport. Dogs usually suffer injuries of the face and neck. In some cases, the injuries are such that the dogs must be euthanized.
Today, baiters often refrain from taking injured dogs to the vet's as the doctor might understand what has taken place and report the owners to the police. For this reason the badger is often crippled and/or restrained to minimise the risk of injury to dogs. The badger's long front claws may be filed off; the canine teeth may be pulled out; the animal's limbs or jaw may be broken with a shovel. To inhibit the badger's movement, there are rumours that the tendons in its hind legs may be cut. Griffiths et al. mention nailing badgers to the ground by the tail.[3][4][5]
When the badger can no longer fight, it is killed by the baiters. Known modes of killing include shooting, stabbing, or beating to death with a shovel. Dead badgers are sometimes dumped by the roadside to be mistaken for roadkill (a major cause of badger mortality).[3]
 
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Ill post pics tomorrow, they are not nice though...............No smilie to convey how crap I feel.
 
Have a look for any sign of the badger being incapacitated - teeth - claws etc., in which case you'll know it's been done for baiting with dogs.
 
CT said:
Have a look for any sign of the badger being incapacitated - teeth - claws etc., in which case you'll know it's been done for baiting with dogs.
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Will do Cedric, thanks for the info. The carcass is a real vomiter, but I simply have to dig it out...:gag:.......to check. I don`t think it has been baited, but who knows,i`ll report back..........:thumbs:
 
Have you told the Old Bill btw Frac?
 
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Have you told the Old Bill btw Frac?
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No, this action took place in Lancs, not Yorks. I do not trust the Lancs WLO one iota.
 
LOL Fair does. They might just have good intelligence on the gits doing this though and it should be taken very seriously. The Badgers Act makes it an offence punishable by impt, to possess any part of a badger, incuding a single hair which has been enough in a few cases.

What these mongrels often used to do is cut off a paw, skeletise it, and dangle it from the rear view mirror in their car, although they're bit more wary these days

I have to say, that the 'sport' for these people is putting the dogs into the sett and then digging them out, so your case doen't relly sound like baiting with dogs.
 
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No, this action took place in Lancs, not Yorks. I do not trust the Lancs WLO one iota.
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Is there any reason, other than the disgusting baiting activity, why anyone would want to destroy badgers there, Ade?
 
Pretty sure that the new keeper WAS NOT involved in this, he did not know the sett was there and was non-plussed when I showed it to him. The previous keeper,see previous thread, used to let all and sundry on doing stupid things, between the three of us, we reckon this is more than likely the source.

All we can do is keep a more watchful eye on things,vehicles, people,other setts etc etc.

The simple fact is that there is evidence of wrongdoing, but no facts that point to who is the guilty party or parties.The sett is in woodland, there are no stones scattered about,so the stones have been brought from a nearby wall and possibly the nearby river to cover the body.Angular walling stone are mixed with river cobbles,there are no vehicle tracks nearby,nor any footprints showing.

It has happened, but we have no proof whatsoever as to who did it.
 
Got the odd one or two of these about at the moment.



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Ade
thats a real ******er re the badger, following on from CT's advice,
I assume that you looked for bullet holes or bruising from shot gun pellets
Might be a bit tricky to spot but may be worth a look
if only to satisfy your own curiosity as to the un-timely end of Brock ?
 
This is the hole that I spotted, the rocks were loosely shoved in the hole, it was that that alerted me to something odd.


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So I got my wee spade and did some digging, the spade has a serrated edge and was soon picking up badger fur.


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At this point the whole base of the hole was flexing, yep it is a carcass and yes it is a dead brock.


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That is the tail sticking out of the soil.


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