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cant really make sense of this
 
It's simple.

The red lines are places you should never crop a person. The green, the safe places.
 
It's kind of messed up IMO... cropping at the knees is better than above/below? It's better to decapitate someone rather than include some shoulder?

The basic rule is "do not amputate body parts by cropping them off at a joint."
 
None of the composition rules make sense to me any way :)
 
I always found it a bit weird cutting the top of the head off. But it seems to be only me.
 
There will be people who have printed that out and will actually spend time referring to it when shooting.. spending so much time getting it "right" that they've totally forgotten the point of taking the photo in the first place.
 
sabah said:
can anyone explain in depth because i don't understand any reason behind this technique lol
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Don't crop at the red lines... but crop at the green lines.

However... you'd be best to ignore it entirely. There are no rules.
 
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There are no rules defining good tastes but
everyone can recognize bad ones!

That why green lines and red lines are good
guidelines but should never be made rules!
 
sabah said:
Thanks StewartR, It make much more sense now and also, I have recently launched a website for beginner level photographer and guys i need your feedback on any sort of improvement i can make. So check it out and leave feedback thanks. www.photographyguideonline.com
And feedback can be left here.
thanks.
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Spelling et al:

amature < amateur
Whether you are a beginner
here you will find (no capitalisation)
exapnd > expand
emerge > merge
absoloutly > absolutely

That's just the introduction! I can't face any more at the moment :exit:!
 
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If you are taking a picture at night of a subject which needs to look still than you are better of using ISO to get some artificial light as you will need it. o_O

This is the Gallery of Photography guide online and here you will find some of my outstanding work along with all the settings used within the given enviroment. So that you can relate when taking pictures and use my settings to get you going.

TBH honest pic #1 in your gallery isn't the best suited subject if you're trying to show shallow depth of field.

Others need the horizon levelling.
Eltheza said:
I can't face any more at the moment :exit:
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Me neither. :LOL:
 
sabah said:
Thanks StewartR, It make much more sense now and also, I have recently launched a website for beginner level photographer and guys i need your feedback on any sort of improvement i can make. REDACTED
thanks.
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Sabah, if you MUST try and use every post on TP to try and promote YOUR website, kindly contact the management and apply for our advertising rates. Otherwise, please desist from linking to the site.
 
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sabah said:
Thanks StewartR, It make much more sense now and also, I have recently launched a website for beginner level photographer and guys i need your feedback on any sort of improvement i can make. So check it out and leave feedback thanks. www.photographyguideonline.com
And feedback can be left here.
thanks.
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I cannot remember reading a website with so many grammatical and spelling errors. There are even image reference errors.
You really need a third party to proof read this in its entirety before you publish it. There are just too many errors and corrections to list here.
 
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Kodiak Qc said:
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There are no rules defining good tastes but
everyone can recognize bad ones!

That why green lines and red lines are good
guidelines but should never be made rules!
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Disagree. There are no rules. You can't innovate when restricted by rules.

A good example is the TV series Mr Robot. Incredibly well produced and shot. Actors are right at the edge of the frame, facing out of the frame, breaking all recognised rules, and it works. Creates such tension and sense of unreality, which is perfect for the show. Wide shots where there "should" be close shots and vice versa... it feels real, as we see the world in reality. It's refreshing, and it works.

Ignore composition rules... just do what's right at the time. Do what feels right.

Bad taste? According to who? There's your problem right there... who defines what's good and bad taste? You?
 
sabah said:
Thanks StewartR, It make much more sense now and also, I have recently launched a website for beginner level photographer and guys i need your feedback on any sort of improvement i can make. So check it out and leave feedback thanks. www.photographyguideonline.com
And feedback can be left here.
thanks.
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Jesus on a stick that's bad. LOL

Does no one teach photographers to THINK any more? Just follow these quick, easy steps to take photographs that look exactly like everyone else's. Bloody hell... That site makes me want to scoop my eyes out with a spoon.

The gallery is full of truly horrible photography, and all this encouraging beginners to use your settings... what's THAT about?

Types of photography - Bokeh and Long shutter... so that's everything covered then.. LOL

Bokeh or long shutter are not TYPES of photography.

Truly, truly terrible in every conceivable sense. Another crap photographer thinking he can teach others. You probably can, but you're teaching them to be as crap as you are.

Can we ask about your credentials sabah? Experience? Working history? Qualifications? Can you explain what makes you the ideal photographer to teach people the subtle, complex art of photography?

If I were give it a star rating, I'd struggle.. what's the opposite of a star... OK.... It get;s 5 black holes from me.
 
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Pookeyhead said:
Jesus on a stick that's bad. LOL

Does no one teach photographers to THINK any more? Just follow these quick, easy steps to take photographs that look exactly like everyone else's. Bloody hell... That site makes me want to scoop my eyes out with a spoon.

The gallery is full of truly horrible photography, and all this encouraging beginners to use your settings... what's THAT about?

Types of photography - Bokeh and Long shutter... so that's everything covered then.. LOL

Bokeh or long shutter are not TYPES of photography.

Truly, truly terrible in every conceivable sense. Another crap photographer thinking he can teach others. You probably can, but you're teaching them to be as crap as you are.

Can we ask about your credentials sabah? Experience? Working history? Qualifications? Can you explain what makes you the ideal photographer to teach people the subtle, complex art of photography?
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Get off the fence David and tell us what you really think :p
 
I can teach people to take shots like the ones on that website.

Step 1: Buy a Go Pro
Step 2: Strap it to your body somewhere.
Step3: Randomly press the shutter when you feel like it.


Job done.
 
Am I right, or am I wrong?
 
DG Phototraining said:
And there was me wondering if my comment was a little harsh :D

Dave
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Lol,me too. We should have just waited for Pookeyhead to have a look at it first and then save us the from the moral dilemma of how harsh to be (or not).
"Damn you and your honesty Pookeyhead !" [emoji23][emoji23]
 
Pookeyhead said:
Jesus on a stick that's bad. LOL

Does no one teach photographers to THINK any more? Just follow these quick, easy steps to take photographs that look exactly like everyone else's. Bloody hell... That site makes me want to scoop my eyes out with a spoon.

The gallery is full of truly horrible photography, and all this encouraging beginners to use your settings... what's THAT about?

Types of photography - Bokeh and Long shutter... so that's everything covered then.. LOL

Bokeh or long shutter are not TYPES of photography.

Truly, truly terrible in every conceivable sense. Another crap photographer thinking he can teach others. You probably can, but you're teaching them to be as crap as you are.

Can we ask about your credentials sabah? Experience? Working history? Qualifications? Can you explain what makes you the ideal photographer to teach people the subtle, complex art of photography?

If I were give it a star rating, I'd struggle.. what's the opposite of a star... OK.... It get;s 5 black holes from me.
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Why do you do it to yourself :) ?
You must have known what you were going to find before you looked.

Off to take a peek myself now...
 
TheBigYin said:
our friend Sabah has left the building...
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I was going to say that you should delete his link in the quote above... then i tried to follow it... someone at TP towers has a sick sick sense of humour.. and i love it :thumbs:
 
No I love te sick twisted minds at Tp that broke his link and redirected it to the spam site ... I can't stand the unappetising stuff itself ... although that said having typed his link in manually I do have to say that the spam site has a higher standard of english and better photographs
 
Nostromo said:
I always found it a bit weird cutting the top of the head off. But it seems to be only me.
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this is what i thought...i edited a shot which was taken for linkedin and criticised the fact the top of the persons head was cut off...
i got this chart back which confused me as well....including some of the other areas...
i usually crop so that the whole is looking ok..depending on clothing and other factors
i think the diagram is only for specific types of body composition..??

cheers
geof...
 
Damn, after that I want to look at the web site :D :D

On a side note, I hate seeing things such as "composition guide / rules". There's no such thing! Its completely up to you what you fill your frame with, and how you fill it. Who's to tell you what you like in your photos? We'd end up with carbon copy photographs if we followed rules, how boring would that be?! :)
 
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d00d said:
Took this today, probably breaks every rule in the book ...
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Nah, you've hit on a lot of the 'rules' in my book..

Rule of thirds? Check
Rule of odds? Check
Subject isolated in clear space? Check
Subject has highest contrast in the scene? Check
Main features lining up? Check
Limited gamut, i.e. limited set of prominent directions in the scene? Check
No regions of high contrast at the edge of the frame? Check
Law of closure? Check
Image balanced? Check
Limited colour palette? Check
Warm tones more prominent in scene, cooler tones more distant? Check
No elements 'kissing'? Check
Leading lines? Check

;)

As before, none of these are essential to make an image work and you certainly don't need to plan them in advance but I think it's interesting to understand those things which can make a composition satisfying.
 
This discussion always frustrates me, as you can see above most people who think the rules are 'unnecessary' don't even know what they are. o_O

And more importantly the 'rules' aren't something invented for us to follow, they were discovered in great art. :)

They're not a checklist, they are what's found in images made by 'people with natural ability' that others can learn about.
 
d00d said:
Took this today, probably breaks every rule in the book ...
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You master many rules and broke part of the rules.
The composition guide is useful to amateurs and new photographers. For professional photographers, you can break any rules to create a better work.
 
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