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Am wondering how can some of your top guys make this image better I have tweaked it in Photoshop
 
Crop the post on the extreme left edge of the shot, re-centre, but most of all the perspective does not work because the end of the jetty clashes with the background.
 
How you mean end of the jetty clashes with the background?
 
If anyone got a similar picture to show me how i should of taken this photo that would be great as i am back up in the lakes district this weekend
 
I dont see any jetty :S
 
im not sure how i would reframe this to stop theclashing - maybe getting higher so all the posts seem below the farside shore line.

Is there any reason you went for black and white as i think the colours might help to bring out the features like the wooden jetty, the trees and possibly the sky/water.
 
Ok here the color version but not too please with it. Feel Free to edit to show how you would make it better

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As already suggested, I think you need to have taken this shot looking down on the tops of the posts, instead of looking up.

Here is (sort of) what I mean (also shot in The Lakes).
 
This works for me.

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It is a simple crop that eliminates part of the foreground and the less interesting right hand side. Is it any closer for you?
 
That looks bit better but I see some people making the colour or contrast stand out more how much would you do on this image?
 
Gandhi said:
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The problem is it's not symmetrical when it's crying out to be.

Quick hack but it shows what I'm on about.
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Now I like that, How did you do that?
 
Ghandi has it spot on but I thought I would show a different take on it.

Don't be upset if what you think is a good image and others do not, art is about opinions anyway.

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What software you using to do this? How do you mirror? Also what adjustment did you make to the image? to make it soo bold?

I am new to editing
 
If you want a symmetrical jetty then here it is, without the symmetrical hills and sky. There comes a point where the symmetry is self defeating.

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Also I have tricked the colours up.
 
Unfortunately it's not symmetrical though, is it? The jetty curves away to the right and the posts are at different depths.

I was just trying to illustrate the idea that in order for the shot to work, imho, the jetty needs to be more symmetrical. Hence why I mirrored it. To prove a point. The hills and sky were moot really.

I'm sorry if you misunderstood me.

Anyway,

Rookie, I just copied the image onto another layer, flipped it on the horizontal then deleted half of the layer and then flattened it. All in photoshop.

I think with shots like this that the you need to be stood plumb in the middle of the jetty with everything straight and level as anything else tends to look a touch uncomfortable to the eye. Failing that, if you can't get it straight and level then maybe use the jetty as a lead-in by having it going diagonally into the shot. Here it neither here nor there, if you know what I mean.
 
Gandhi said:
I'm sorry if you misunderstood me.
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I clearly did. I belong to an old fashioned school that likes to think that what gets published is what the camera recorded - to a very high percentage. I don't like to think that the viewer of an image will be saying to themselves, lies, damned lies and photographs.

By making the jetty perfectly symmetrical, you produce an image that no viewer can find in the world. I lose track of the point in doing that. I'm a traditionalist, so I will defend the old ways. The best image on this forum today (in my opinion) was cropped to a standard aspect ratio, sharpened to a degree and posted. I can't remember the day on which the best photograph owed more to the software than the photographer.

Beware, dinasour passing through.
 
rh1944 said:
I clearly did
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lol.

yep.

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

my whole point was to illustrate that when the OP had taken the shot, it would've worked better if the jetty had been as symmetrical as possible NOT that photoshop is the answer to all things. I merely used photoshop to demonstrate the point. As I've said above. twice.

And besides, I seem to remember spending a lot of time in the darkroom when i was younger, dodging, burning, cropping, spotting out dust, making unsharp masks, solarising, sepia toning, selenium toning, printing mono from colour negs, cross processing, push and pull processing etc etc etc. Just now we can do all of those things without messy chemicals and shutting ourselves away in cupboards for hours on end.

I'm sorry, but I found your last post extremely arrogant, narrow minded and just plain wrong.

Many, many, great photographs have owed as much to the darkroom skill of the photographer as they have to the original taking of the shot.


FFS! All I was trying to do was to help somebody in the best way I saw fit and all I get is criticism, and not even constructive at that.

Why bother.

Besides, you've just shot your own bloody arguement in the foot by 'Tricking up' the colours to the point where they look totally unnatural.
 
Gandhi said:
lol.

yep.

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

my whole point was to illustrate that when the OP had taken the shot, it would've worked better if the jetty had been as symmetrical as possible NOT that photoshop is the answer to all things. I merely used photoshop to demonstrate the point. As I've said above. twice.

And besides, I seem to remember spending a lot of time in the darkroom when i was younger, dodging, burning, cropping, spotting out dust, making unsharp masks, solarising, sepia toning, selenium toning, printing mono from colour negs, cross processing, push and pull processing etc etc etc. Just now we can do all of those things without messy chemicals and shutting ourselves away in cupboards for hours on end.

I'm sorry, but I found your last post extremely arrogant, narrow minded and just plain wrong.

Many, many, great photographs have owed as much to the darkroom skill of the photographer as they have to the original taking of the shot.


FFS! All I was trying to do was to help somebody in the best way I saw fit and all I get is criticism, and not even constructive at that.

Why bother.

Besides, you've just shot your own bloody arguement in the foot by 'Tricking up' the colours to the point where they look totally unnatural.
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I have taken your note onboard and thank you for your help... I am trying to get the best out of my kit and need to learn alot more. But to be honest I am not too sure what you mean about that post :bang: I know the most important thing is to set up the camera and aim the shot as best as i can this way it will be easier and better to process am I correct.

If there is any other tips or anything you like to tell me that would help i am all hear...:D
 
Dude, it was in no way directed at you. Many apologies if you felt that it was!

And I also offer my apologies for allowing your thread to get dragged off course.

All I was trying to say was.....

It would've looked better if you'd got the jetty lined up so it was symmetrical!
 
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