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markyboy.1967

markyboy.1967

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Folks, i have had a look at my colour profile in CS4 ( edit, assign profile ) and its set at Adobe RGB, should i set this to sRGB IEC61966-2.1 or leave as is.

I was looking at getting some prints done by DSCL and downloaded their profile for a lustre print but its just so far out from my Adobe RGB settings and closer to the sRGB settings.So thought that if i use sRGB then at least its a closer starting point if i want them printed off.
 
At times when i open a pic i get a box showing up that says --Embedded is Adobe RGB 1998, Working sRGB IEC61966-2.1. This may be once i have messed with the images a bit but not 100% why it keeps coming up--ideas on what im doing wrong?

Also when going to send an image to DSCL, is it a matter of going to "Edit-Convert to Profile, then pick the profile from the destination space? Once this has been done then i can add a bit of saturation etc that may be required---im hoping i have this bit right...:thumbs:


Forgot to add camera is set at sRGB.
 
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hi mark, the camera must be set to which one you want to use(i use srb) as alot of printers cant do adobe rgb, once set to srgb in camera its just a matter of changing the profile in cs4 like you said, Edit-Convert to Profile, then pick the profile from the destination space which will be dscl own.
as for editing before or after the conversion (i dont think it makes much difference)but i could be wrong.
 
Close to my heart at the moment this one. I have been trying some print labs recently and while, on the whole photobox and dscl prints are very good quality and by no mean miles away from what I see on my monitor, on some "underexposed" sunset or long exposure night shots the prints came back about 2 stops brighter. Long story short, this issue was not so much the profile but the print shops applying "colour correction"
Generally, there is an option on your profile to disable this and as for the colour matching I found the best solution to ask photobox for a calibration print, the same image can be downloaded and then the soft and hard copy compared and adjusted. Think this is quite a good way to do it and it saves messing with profiles. By yhe way, I still use adobe RGB in camera even though dscl and photobox can only cope with sRGB, sRGB is quite a limited colour pallette.
 
testbloke said:
Close to my heart at the moment this one. I have been trying some print labs recently and while, on the whole photobox and dscl prints are very good quality and by no mean miles away from what I see on my monitor, on some "underexposed" sunset or long exposure night shots the prints came back about 2 stops brighter. Long story short, this issue was not so much the profile but the print shops applying "colour correction"
Generally, there is an option on your profile to disable this and as for the colour matching I found the best solution to ask photobox for a calibration print, the same image can be downloaded and then the soft and hard copy compared and adjusted. Think this is quite a good way to do it and it saves messing with profiles. By yhe way, I still use adobe RGB in camera even though dscl and photobox can only cope with sRGB, sRGB is quite a limited colour pallette.
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how do you disable the colour correction.
 
scottthehat said:
how do you disable the colour correction.
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On photobox, it is in the options for your user profile, my issue here is that my website is automatically handled through photobox which means orders are automatically processed, printed and posted, but ...
On my personal photobox account I can disable but through zenfolio I cant, therefore I am going to have to switch back and deal with all orders manually, hence I am now evaluating other labs. Have not yet tackled this yet with dscl but it is on my list !
ps - also tried a new one (nellieprint), the 18x12 they sent me was like tracing paper, not a patch on photobox or dscl.
 
scottthehat said:
how do you disable the colour correction.
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WIth DSCL you can select their 'pro' option which prints the images just as you supply them. Going for their 'corrected' option (if I've understood their site) applies a generic curve to lighten the shot before it is printed. At no time does a human look at the print and think "ooo, maybe we should do this/that".
 
68lbs said:
WIth DSCL you can select their 'pro' option which prints the images just as you supply them. Going for their 'corrected' option (if I've understood their site) applies a generic curve to lighten the shot before it is printed. At no time does a human look at the print and think "ooo, maybe we should do this/that".
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where is the pro option to.
 
this is what dscl sy.
Editing your Files.

Edit your images in a standard working space such as Adobe SRGB not a printer profile.

Working spaces are designed for editing images, printer spaces are not. From this point you have a file that can be sent to any printer. If you are sending your files to our lab please convert files to our profiles in Photoshop by selecting Image/Mode/convert to profile and then select our profile which will be in the list. For users of Photoshop CS2/3/4 choose Edit/convert to Profile.

which says to me convert to there profile is the last thing you do once you edit you photo.
 
Mark, you could record the process as an action, then open all files to be converted and run the action. PErsonally, being lazy, I would get a few printed without changing the profile to see how far they are from what you are seeing on the screen, probably not too far off...
 
meant to add, if you open an account with photobox, they give you 40 6x4 proof prints free £1.50 for p+p. Something for nothing and lets you see how close the images are to your screen
 
scottthehat said:
where is the pro option to.
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It's just there when you upload your images... you get a dropdown menu where you select the paper and whether you want corrected/pro etc for each file
 
markyboy.1967 said:
So anyone had any issues with the corrected image method? or should i just do the pro option?
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hi mark , i have been using option 1 with no problems, but have now downloaded option 2 its better to use and easyier, and has the pro ortion.(which i will be using for piece of mind)
 
markyboy.1967 said:
So anyone had any issues with the corrected image method? or should i just do the pro option?
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Yes Mark, see post above ...
bummer was the one that was effected was a big print. Above 18x12 is a different print process so maybe more extreme colour correction ?
 
markyboy.1967 said:
Hoping to be ready to send my order by Wed morning at the latest. These images are for my own use anyway so no client will be getting them so its allot less worry for my first prints.
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Any sign of your prints yet Mark ?
 
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