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hi all i use picasa sometimes to edit my pics quickly just for forwarding via email, but i have recently bought photoshop cc2014, the colours look good in picasa but when i open the same pic in photoshop the colours are really weird a bit green if anything im not sure if i have done something wrong can anyone help plese, i have used picaasa to forward some pics which the person liked and now wants the originals but they look awful if i view them in ps.
thanks
Bill
 
just an additional point, not sure why but if i open the image in "paint" the colurs look right, i do not understand this please help
thanks
Bill
 
what colorspace are you working in? you can check it in photoshop by going to edit>color settings
 
Edit/color settings...

Set as shown..

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Also... just to rule out anything else, can you post the image processed in photoshop so we can try to work out exactly what's wrong with it? We're working blind here.
 
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this is what i found, is that right, sorry couldnt get words on the same page.
thanks for the help
 
i dont understand it, the image looks a lot better on here than it does when i view in ps. in ps its very green
 
You don't have profile warnings set in PS. So it may not be converting to sRGB when you load it, and it may not be embedding when saving it.

The image you posted has no embedded profile, so how it appears will depend on how people are viewing it.


If you look at my colour settings you'll notice I've ticked the boxes for profile mismatch warnings. That way, if an image that is either not sRGB or has no profie at all, you will be asked what you want PS to do.

If no profile you will see...

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...in which case you should select "Assign Working RGB" which in my case is Adobe RGB1998, but that's another subject entirely... in your case, it should be "assign Working RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1".

If you load an image that has a different profile than your assigned working RGB colour space you will see...

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..and then you should select "Convert document's colors to the working space"

This is ensuring accurate colour profiling. If the colours look wrong in Photoshop after doing this, then they are wrong, and you should white balance accordingly.

When you save, always use "save as" and ensure that the the profile box is ticked.

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pookeyhead, appreciate you help, ive done the things you said and it still looks the same but only when i open it in ps or lightroom......if anything it looks worse in lightroom but as you can see it appears to lok ok when i upload it to here or if i open it in paint i know it sounds unlikely but it seems to be a problem with both of those progs
 
Ok.. so let's logically look at this, one step at a time to eliminate stuff. It can't be your monitor itself because EVERYTHING would be wrong, ALL the time.

The image looks OK on line where most devices will either ignore a profile or force sRGB. But it looks crap in Lightroom or PS, which are both honouring whatever colour profile policy you set.

This means it has to be a colour profiling issue... either image, or system.

When you say it looks poor in PS and LR... is this the raw file you're talking about, or anything? If you download the image you just posted above, and loaded it back into PS... does it STILL look crap?


Let's also look at your system. You appear to be on Windows 8, so get to your desktop, right click it... select "screen resolution", then "advanced settings". Click the "Color management" tabs, then look what default system monitor profile you are using.

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It may also be worth when color space settings are set in Lightroom in the export dialogue box.


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i really appreciate your help just an update, i have just uploaded to lightroom some pics taken at my camera club the ther night using a flash setup, and if i view them using picasa or paint they look naturally coloured i.e. skintones look good i asked my wife to look at them too just to be sure it wasnt me and she agreed the most natural look was when viewd in anything other than lr or ps.
it really does seem to be a problem with the programs i have just signed up for and downloaded. i will follow your above instructions and report back
 
is this right i noticed where it says "device profile" that profile im sure i downloaded for my epson 1500 printer should that be shown here?View attachment 18995
 
@billozz

In your post #13... go back to that colour management window and tick the box which says use my settings for this device. What appears?

In the advanced window in post #14, you appear to have a printer profile as your system profile. This is definitely wrong. Don't change it YET, because when you tick that box in post #13, you over-ride these settings, but I'm interested to know what appears when you tick the box, as that will dictate what we do next.


I think we're getting to the root of the problem though.
 
@billozz

Just to clarify... when the box is NOT ticked in the dialog box show in your post #13, windows uses the system profile selected in the "device Profile" box shown in post #14. As you currently have a printer profile in there, this is messing things up when you use a colour managed application such as Photoshop or Lightroom. I suspect Picassa is just not honouring your system profile, so everything is being forced to sRGB as set in your "viewing conditions profile".

So... if you do not profile your monitor with a colorimeter (calibrator), you should leave the box in post #13 UN-TICKED, but you SHOULD set the "Device Profile" in post #14 to "System Default (sRGB IEC61966-2.1)

That, I am willing to bet will solve your problem.


If you DO profile your monitor with a calibrator, then the box in post #13 SHOULD be ticked, and your calibrator should have set a monitor profile as default. However... if you don't profile, don't tick that box.
 
sorry for the delay in replying i havent been at home ive done what you suggested but it doesnt seem to have helped
 
although i have had to edit them down to really smallfiles in order to upload them i think you will be ablr to see the differences, incidentally this appears to be just a problem with what i am looking at in ps if i print the image it seems to look normal, i really do apprecite all your help thank you
 
Did you tick the box here? (use my settings for this device)



If you want it to use what you set in the advanced colour management section you posted above, do not tick the box.

However, if you DO tick the box, ensure that sRGB IEC61966-2.1 is selected as the default profile in THAT window too.

If this is just in Photoshop... check you are not inadvertently soft-proofing. (View/Proof Colors) or CTRL+Y.

This can only be a color profiling problem.
 
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billozz said:
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That's exactly as I have mine set here.

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However, my system ignores this, because I have ticked "Use my settings for this device" here....

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So now, my system uses my custom monitor profile created when I calibrated.

If you have this box ticked, it ignores what you set in the advanced tab.

What appears in your "Devices" tab when you tick the box? Can you screen grab that?


Also.. is there any other software running at start up that sets screen colours, brightness, or display properties at all?
 
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Pookeyhead said:
Did you tick the box here? (use my settings for this device)

i do not have anything in the large box showing icc profiles, i hadnt ticked that box anyway as earlier you advised not to.

If you want it to use what you set in the advanced colour management section you posted above, do not tick the box.

However, if you DO tick the box, ensure that sRGB IEC61966-2.1 is selected as the default profile in THAT window too.

If this is just in Photoshop... check you are not inadvertently soft-proofing. (View/Proof Colors) or CTRL+Y.

This can only be a color profiling problem.
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@billozz

Sorry Bill.. but you didn't type anything.
 
im nt sure you will see my reply above so i will repeat it here i do not have anything showing in the large box for icc profiles
 
Pookeyhead said:
That's exactly as I have mine set here.

pookeyhead, nothing appears in the "devices" tab so i went back and unticked it as you said before

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However, my system ignores this, because I have ticked "Use my settings for this device" here....

MMVVlSh.jpg


So now, my system uses my custom monitor profile created when I calibrated.

If you have this box ticked, it ignores what you set in the advanced tab.

What appears in your "Devices" tab when you tick the box? Can you screen grab that?


Also.. is there any other software running at start up that sets screen colours, brightness, or display properties at all?
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OK... tick "use my settings for this device", then click the "add" button.

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Then scroll down to sRGB IEC61966-2.1 colorspace profile.icm... select it, and press OK.

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Make sure it's highlighted, then press "set as default"

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click OK or apply as appropriate until you return to your desktop.

Hopefully that will sort it.
 
IT WORKED !!!!!!!!!! cannot thank you enough pookeyhead i followed your directions, as i had done before actually, but this time i restarted my computer and the images look the same now in picasa and ps. i really do appreciate all your help and patience.
thank you so much
Bill
 
@billozz

You're welcome. I can remember having similar problems a very long time ago when no one really understood colour management... way back in the 90s, so I had to work all this stuff out alone. I know how frustrating it can be. Glad to help.
 
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