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Hi. I have had Cokin filters for decades originally for my 55mm Sony Alpha I had the small A series. I then bought zoom lenses and went for the P range. The P square filters are 80mm. I am looking for a UV filter now and I am struggling to get Cokin filters as if they have gone out of business.

On ebay I am seeing 77mm and 72mm rings. I don’t understand this. I have also tried Amazon.

Can anyone give me the number for the UV I think it may be 160. I have also come across K&F and Hoyarex I assume totally different holder size.

Any help please?

P.S. Just noticed that not all the filters are square. and the round filters sit at the back of the holder and the slot is wider.
 
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Pablo666 said:
Hi. I have had Cokin filters for decades originally for my 55mm Sony Alpha I had the small A series. I then bought zoom lenses and went for the P range. The P square filters are 80mm. I am looking for a UV filter now and I am struggling to get Cokin filters as if they have gone out of business.

On ebay I am seeing 77mm and 72mm rings. I don’t understand this. I have also tried Amazon.

Can anyone give me the number for the UV I think it may be 160. I have also come across K&F and Hoyarex I assume totally different holder size.

Any help please?

P.S. Just noticed that not all the filters are square. and the round filters sit at the back of the holder and the slot is wider.
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Hi, I bought a K&F filter boxed as 67mm. I measured it as 70mm. The circular filters sit at the back in the Cokin tray.

I have two Cokin filter holders ‘A’ and ‘P’. The slot in the ‘A’ is 67mm and the slot in the ‘B’ is 84mm. Am I missing something here?

P.S. this is a .co.uk website and I live in the UK. The link is for America
 
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Hi, I bought a K&F filter boxed as 67mm. I measured it as 70mm. The circular filters sit at the back in the Cokin tray.

I have two Cokin filter holders ‘A’ and ‘P’. The slot in the ‘A’ is 67mm and the slot in the ‘B’ is 84mm. Am I missing something here?

P.S. this is a .co.uk website and I live in the UK. The link is for America
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I posted that link to show that Cokin is not out of business - you are free to purchase from whomever carries the filter you want.
 
If it's just a UV filter you might be better off buying a round glass one and putting it on and forgetting it. Most modern lens are uv coated so you wont really need a filter other than protection for the front element.
 
swanseamale47: What a stupid answer. The reason for using a filter holder is to use different filters. Please leave this to someone else.
 
A UV filter will make no difference to a sunrise/set shot on a digital camera and is more likely to cause problems with flare in those instances than almost any other! Aside from anything else, digital cameras (almost) all have a UV filter in front of the sensor anyway.
 
Pablo666 said:
Taking pictures of sun rise and sun set.
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Following on what Nod said, a UV filter (through my eyes) is a waste of money. The only thing it's used for is to cut out Ultra Violet light, hence the name. The filter can be used to protect the front of the lens, but if you have a lens cover, there's no need to use one.

I do I know I tested a UV filter with an 18-55mm kit lens, and printed them out. It made a very slight difference with the quality of the image. I then stopped using the filters.
 
Pablo666 said:
swanseamale47: What a stupid answer. The reason for using a filter holder is to use different filters. Please leave this to someone else.
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There is a filter that MAY help with you quest , however, based on it possibly being a ‘stupid answer ‘ ( in your eyes), I’m somewhat reluctant to divulge the info.

Perhaps offering an apology to @swanseamale47 for your rudeness is in order, do you not think?

Oh, and welcome to TP :)
 
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What would take the sting out of the sun? A polariser?
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No. If your horizon will allow it, a soft-graduated neutral density filter may work. Or, you could take two exposures, one for the sky and one for the foreground, and photoshop them together.
 
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Asha said:
There is a filter that MAY help with you quest , however, based on it possibly being a ‘stupid answer ‘ ( in your eyes), I’m somewhat reluctant to divulge the info.

Perhaps offering an apology to @swanseamale47 for your rudeness is in order, do you not think?

Oh, and welcome to TP :)
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Agreed
 
Dael_Pix. No. Not relay. You need to read the question before replying. Not reply to a question that wasn't asked. I was CLEARLY concerned about filter sizes.
 
Pablo666 said:
Dael_Pix. No. Not relay. You need to read the question before replying. Not reply to a question that wasn't asked.
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Yes. Really!

I’m sure the question was read before the reply was made.

As you are new to the forum, please allow me to explain .

Questions are asked.
Replies are given.
These replies may be direct and straightforward answers to the question/ problem posed.
Often however , replies will be forthcoming that offer other possible solutions .
Occasionally this may not be the ideal response that the OP wishes for , nonetheless it is accepted and perhaps mentioned POLITELY by the OP that he/she appreciates the effort made but unfortunately the reply doesn’t fully address his/ her needs.

If rudeness is expressed, an apology is usually forthcoming and much appreciated!

POLITENESS COSTS NOTHING , rudeness however could cost you a ban from this forum by the moderators.

As a gentleman of 65 years old ( going by your profile ), I don’t expect to have to explain you how to correctly communicate with people.

Perhaps if you change your approach, you may be fortunate to obtain much more advice from other members.
 
Pablo666 said:
Dael_Pix. No. Not relay. You need to read the question before replying. Not reply to a question that wasn't asked. I was CLEARLY concerned about filter sizes.
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Desmond, unless you wish to kow tow, you would be wise to give this thread a rest.
 
Pablo666 said:
swanseamale47: What a stupid answer. The reason for using a filter holder is to use different filters. Please leave this to someone else.
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I think you'll find that most photographers agree with him. UV filters are of limited use on digital cameras, their best use is keeping dust & grit off your lens which cokin style ones won't do.
The big advantage of square type filters is the ability to move graduated filters up & down so the transition match that of the scene being photographed.

WRT the rings you are seeing these screw onto the front of the lens & the cokin filter holder clips onto them.

I believe cokin now make four sizes of filters, mine are all old A & P size ones, but they also do two larger sizes (X & Z ?).
Hoyarex filters also come in several sizes IIRC one of them can be used in Cokin P holders but they are certainly not a good fit. Quite a few other brands are designed to fit cokin holders, in the UK 'Boots' & 'Jessops' both sold quite a few, and today Chinese manufacturers often sell compatible filters.

I'm a terrible collector of filters (mainly because I use modified cameras to shoot infrared & visual) but I don't think any of my hundreds of filters would be much help for most sunrises. When the sun is really low the atmosphere does quite a bit to filter sunlight and simply using -ve exposure compensation gives the sort of results I like.
 
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Just on the rings...

If you do go for a Cokin square system or a similar one I'd recommend buying a ring to fit whatever lens you have with the largest filter thread. This is often printed on the front of the lens and is also often on the inside of the lens cap. I recommend you then buy stepping rings for any smaller filter thread lenses you might want to use with the filter system.

For example when I bought my Cokin system the largest filter thread I had was 67mm so I bought a Cokin ring that size and bought stepping rings for other lenses, for eg. 49-67mm. The theory being that stepping rings are cheaper than the filter system manufacturers rings so it's best to buy one large diameter ring for your biggest filter thread diameter lens and stepping rings for any other lenses.
 
Pablo666 said:
swanseamale47: What a stupid answer. The reason for using a filter holder is to use different filters. Please leave this to someone else.
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So he has given you a solution and it's stupid ? To confirm as I don't think you understand ....buy a uv filter screw it to the front of your lens and let it live there . You'll still be able to use your Cokin system . But with your lack of knowledge on what filter you even need I'm surprised your confidant enough to give him such an ignorant reply . I'm guessing your time here will be short lived .
 
Asha said:
POLITENESS COSTS NOTHING , rudeness however could cost you a ban from this forum by the moderators.
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Lets just leave it as "its already being discussed, subject to the OP's next move...


Asha said:
As a gentleman of 65 years old ( going by your profile ), I don’t expect to have to explain you how to correctly communicate with people.
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It's never particularly edifying to have to explain to an adult that their parents did a terrible job of raising a human being.


Asha said:
Perhaps if you change your approach, you may be fortunate to obtain much more advice from other members.
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or more baldly stated, unless you apologise, you won't be around to even ask.


Winslowe said:
Desmond, unless you wish to kow tow, you would be wise to give this thread a rest.
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Not so much kow-tow, just apologise for the over-reaction and stop behaving like a self entitled idiot and use a little decorum - after all, we're not American's...
 
TheBigYin said:
Not so much kow-tow, just apologise for the over-reaction and stop behaving like a self entitled idiot and use a little decorum - after all, we're not American's...
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You are an anomaly - most Brits I know are decent folk.
 
Winslowe said:
Which is more than can be said for you!
You may ban me if makes you feel better, but I've beaten you to it!
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You aren't the brightest person on the planet are you?
firstly insulting a staff member who is trying to keep the peace, and then arguing with a site owner when you are told to stop.
I have accepted your request (y)
 
Pablo666 said:
swanseamale47: What a stupid answer. The reason for using a filter holder is to use different filters. Please leave this to someone else.
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In your original post you ask for details of a UV filter "Can anyone give me the number for the UV I think it may be 160" for a Coking filter holder I was answering that and trying to help.
Couriously I am aware that the holder will take other filters. The clue is in the title filter holder. :)
 
I don't want banning as I'm tied to the house a lot and I get a lot of pleasure from this site but there's a but or several buts.

I always think it's a shame when people are banned or feel they can't post but I do realise I don't know what goes on in threads I don't read and I don't even pick up on everything in threads I do read and I therefore can't know full histories but I do think people can learn from this and other threads and perhaps... improve... in a way which might make things like this less likely.
 
woof woof said:
I don't want banning
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You are never rude so that is very unlikely.
I don't like banning people either, but there comes a time when the last straw is all it takes,
and the likely hood is you or anyone else haven't seen the rest of the straws being piled on.
 
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