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Could anyone possibly tell me how the Canon 20D and the Nikon D70/s, and the Canon 30D and the Nikon D80 compare at higher ISO?

Many thanks!
 
Yes, thanks my Google search bar is full of various "auto-complete suggestions" but I've found myself going in circles a bit :cuckoo:
 
Specifically I cannot help.

However I do know prior to the D90 Canon generally had the edge in the higher ISO within this grade of camera. The 20D handled shadow noise better than the D70s. I also recall reviews touted the 30D noise as being reduced over the D80.

Best bet is to hunt down reviews of individual cameras that have full res images as all ISO's and compare them yourself.
 
If it helps at all...

I had a 20D and I used all ISO settings up to and including the max 3200. For whole prints I thought it acceptable especially after noise reduction is applied in one of the newer packages. Pixel peepers should be aware that your milage my vary. If you can expose to the right and back off post capture results are even better.

I'm sure I read somewhere that 30D noise performance was slightly worse than the 20D's at some ISO's but personally I'd take that with a pinch of salt. In fact I'd ignore it :D as in the real world I don't think it'd matter.

PS. Again, if it'll help at all... If you're struggling for ISO test images I have 20D RAW's stepped through 100, 400, 1600 and 3200 in quite low light. If you want them pm me an address you'd like them emailing to.
 
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The Nikon D70 & D80 use CCDs so high ISO is not a strength.
 
Thanks very much everyone for the help, much appreciated. And thankyou woof woof, I would be very grateful if you could, I'll just send you a wee PM. Would people say that lack of anti-dust system in the 20/30D and no spot-metering in the 20D were a big deal? I'm currently using an Oly E520, which has both.
 
When I first got my 20D it seemed to be a dust magnet so I found the best thing to do was to test and clean before setting out for the day as at least I was then starting with a known clean sensor.

Later, my 20D seemed almost immune to dust, possibly because it was worm in and any oil or bits of the moving parts that were going to come off had already done so :D
 
If you look on www.dpreview.com they have historic reviews for both the Canon and Nikon Cameras.
Canon 20D
Canon 30D
Nikon D70
Nikon D80

The 30D review has a comparison with the 20D, 5D and Nikon 200.
The Nikon D70 and D80 were consumer level DSLRs, and as far as I know you will be unlikely to find many reviews comparing these with the pro-sumer level Canon XX range. Though you will probably find comparisons with the Canon 350D and 400D, also on Dpreview.
 
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I shot my sister's wedding 2 years back with a D90 + borrowed D80. I ended up using flash on the D80 for the day, while using the D90 in higher ISO levels. The D80 was very poor beyond ISO 400, just like the D200 was.
 
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Thanks very much everyone for the help, much appreciated. And thankyou woof woof, I would be very grateful if you could, I'll just send you a wee PM. Would people say that lack of anti-dust system in the 20/30D and no spot-metering in the 20D were a big deal? I'm currently using an Oly E520, which has both.
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The lack of an anti-dust system in the 20D and 30D is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. I don't have a lot of dust problems, and it's easy to clean the sensor if necessary. Spot metering is handy, but I don't suppose it's a deal breaker for most people.
 
Well, it is of course a matter of opinion :D and we all have our own :D but I think that you can only say that the lack of sensor cleaning is irrelevant after you've come back from holiday and spent four hours cloning out dust bunnies on 600 shots :'( :D

Just to contrast my 300D, 10D, 20D and 5D to my Panasonic GF1 and G1 for a moment, the Canon's have all needed constant monitoring and a mixture of Rocket and wet cleaning whilst the Panny's have never required even one single wet clean. Dust bunnies have been far fewer, presumably due to reduced oil and debris coming off moving parts and possibly cleverer filter coating too. Whatever the technology in the camera, every dust bunny that has appeared has been banished by the cameras in built vibration cleaning thingy.

I don't know how effective Canon's own anti dust bunny systems are on later cameras but my own experience with Panny is that they're leaps and bounds ahead of the older and non auto cleaning Canon DSLR's I've owned.
 
Hiya m8.
I can't speak for other models but i can show you what the cannon 30D looks like at 1600 and 3200 ISO.

These pics are straight out of the camera no crops or anything no processing just exported from LR4 and uploaded to Flickr. Taken in a dark woodland on a overcast day.

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1/100sec f5.6 ISO 1600 250mm EF-S 55-250 f4-5.6is

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1/100sec f4.5 ISO 3200 79mm EF-S 55-250mm f4-5.6is

Hope it helps :thumbs:
 
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