Cloud storage

Ballyman said:
This is the reply from squirrel

Unfortunately we do not currently support NAS or external hard drives, and we cannot accept hard drives for the initial backup or allow access to the servers/datacentres directly.
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bertpalmer said:
They say they don't Ballyman, but they do. I did say that above.
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Ballyman said:
They are obviously morons then :)
Its a bad start if their technical team don't know what they support?
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Thanks for the added replies and insight.

In regard to HDD bulk upload that is doubly a pity because I have found their 'parent' Memset is no more than 30mins drive from me so that would have been a boon :)

C'est la vie I will keep an eye on this thread for more info about Cloud services.
 
While I've got some knowledgable people here, does anybody run a standalone backup program to backup their NAS drive? I don't mind paying around £50 for a decent program.

I'm currently using Genie Timeline Home 2014 but having issues with it not updating all selected folders, seems very hit and miss. I have paid for it but currently being dealt by with their support team who seem fairly slow to respond.

BTW it will be for a windows computer.
 
I combine backup and display using Zenfolio. Have unlimited space and can store my raw and finished output plus video (not sure what formats as it's not really my thing).
It means I have the security of remote backup for key items ( don't tend to post everything) and nice galleries to show people on my mobile devices. There is also a shop if you want to sell, I've been pleased with service and it's cheap.
My upload speeds are a bit sad also, I just queue it all up and walk away!
 
K&L Photography said:
While I've got some knowledgable people here, does anybody run a standalone backup program to backup their NAS drive? I don't mind paying around £50 for a decent program.

I'm currently using Genie Timeline Home 2014 but having issues with it not updating all selected folders, seems very hit and miss. I have paid for it but currently being dealt by with their support team who seem fairly slow to respond.

BTW it will be for a windows computer.
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Have you tried synctoy? Its a Microsoft programming that comes with windows. I find it very good and simple to use. I use it to backup external HDDs to my NAS
 
gadgeteer said:
I can upload only at around 1 megabit per second to Crashplan.....my fibre connection can upload at up to 10 megabits per second. I can upload many other places way faster than 1 megabit per second. I have contacted Crashplan and they've all but admitted it's their network that is the bottleneck. Not mine.

Hope that clears things up.
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I can concur with this. I've had many a discussion with Crashplan over the lack of upload speed compared with my connection to other places. The initial backup (about 500MB at the time) took forever but the incremental updates it now does are fairly quick. My contract with Crashplan is up for renewal in the next few weeks and I'm seriously looking at other solutions but haven't found anything significantly better ... yet.
 
Ballyman said:
Have you tried synctoy? Its a Microsoft programming that comes with windows. I find it very good and simple to use. I use it to backup external HDDs to my NAS
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I find the limitation with synctoy (aside from it being a microsoft product) is that it only backs up to one destination and it's not automatic - as in, you have to tell it to do a backup.
 
Phil V said:
Virgin happily give me 50Mbps download but only 2 upload - what do these people think we'll use all their precious bandwidth on? I'd happily pay the same price for 25Mb each way.
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Good upload bandwidth is for business accounts, are you paying for business use? Also, as BT own the lines, they reserve the best bandwidth for BT customers
 
scottinfocus said:
Good upload bandwidth is for business accounts, are you paying for business use? Also, as BT own the lines, they reserve the best bandwidth for BT customers
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BT do not own the Virgin cable connection.
 
scottinfocus said:
Good upload bandwidth is for business accounts, are you paying for business use? Also, as BT own the lines, they reserve the best bandwidth for BT customers
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Phil V said:
BT do not own the Virgin cable connection.
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scottinfocus said:
BT do own the line, not sure what you mean
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It was my understanding that is you are on Virgin Cable you are 'end to end' on the Virgin network but whether they at any point(s) use the BT backbone (which has very big pipes) I have no idea???

The 50 down & 2 up that Phil reports are as he says surely direct cable to the house. If this was a BT based FTTC service he would be getting 50 DL only if darned close the street cabinet (I think less than 100M?) plus the UL speed would be way higher than 2! Though for a cable service compared to a FTTC one the UL speeds are pretty poor :(
 
scottinfocus said:
BT do own the line, not sure what you mean
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BT line and cable line totally different. Virgin do piggy back on BT in areas where there is no cable, but you don't get their fibre optic service and can't get TV package. I would have gone for Virgin if they covered my area, ended up switching to BT. Quite glad I did now I've heard the issues Phil has with upload, with BT I regularly get 15mb up and 50mb down.
 
scottinfocus said:
BT do own the line, not sure what you mean
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I assure you BT do not own the Virgin fibre network, which existed years before BT started rolling out their own fibre. I've had fibre BB and TV since 2001 (first Telewest, the Blueyonder, now Virgin), when did BT rollout their fibre service to home users? And when are they planning a proper cable TV service (because their current offering isn't quite in the same league as Virgin)?
 
Box Brownie said:
It was my understanding that is you are on Virgin Cable you are 'end to end' on the Virgin network but whether they at any point(s) use the BT backbone (which has very big pipes) I have no idea???

The 50 down & 2 up that Phil reports are as he says surely direct cable to the house. If this was a BT based FTTC service he would be getting 50 DL only if darned close the street cabinet (I think less than 100M?) plus the UL speed would be way higher than 2! Though for a cable service compared to a FTTC one the UL speeds are pretty poor :(
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This. It's completely and utterly unrelated to the BT FTTC service, which has better upload speeds, but nowhere near the consistent quality DL speeds.

I've always been in the 'lowest' package, which started at half a meg, they've never charged for an upgrade, we're still on the lowest package, and it's just gone up to 50Mb. I regularly get 53 down and about 3 up, but 50 and 2 is what I pay for. ;)

There's the difference between the ancient Virgin cable network and the shiny new BT one. I've always had at least the speed I pay for, whereas ADSL and FTTC customers are still paying for 'up to' speeds:D
 
Phil V said:
I assure you BT do not own the Virgin fibre network, which existed years before BT started rolling out their own fibre. I've had fibre BB and TV since 2001 (first Telewest, the Blueyonder, now Virgin), when did BT rollout their fibre service to home users? And when are they planning a proper cable TV service (because their current offering isn't quite in the same league as Virgin)?
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Sorry, I still live in the sticks, no fibre yet. BT was out last week replacing our 50 yr old line, with another bloody line...
 
JennyGW said:
Don't forget, 10Mb/s is not with compressed data and jpg's are compressed. You might see 10Mb/s with a plain .txt file, for example.
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Err, no. If he has 10Mbps upstream bandwidth then this is the raw data speed (contention issues and network congestion aside). Tape drive manufacturers have played this game for years, quoting transfer speeds assuming 2:1 compression ratios but this isn't the case for ISPs - the bandwidth you get is the raw speed.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Err, no. If he has 10Mbps upstream bandwidth then this is the raw data speed (contention issues and network congestion aside). Tape drive manufacturers have played this game for years, quoting transfer speeds assuming 2:1 compression ratios but this isn't the case for ISPs - the bandwidth you get is the raw speed.
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Which is what I said.
 
Grogues said:
I use Google Drive. Very reasonably priced. I'm always a little surprised that people don't use cloud storage, let's say your house got burned to the ground. After the insurance had paid out and you had re-built your home you''d be devastated that you had lost all your photos. Photos are precious, thankfully these days we have the means to ensure they never get lost.
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I would be more upset loosing my camera gear, but what I want to know is what the difference is between these "cloud" backups to something like Photobucket for photo storage?
I don't often read/hear about someone getting upset about photos being lost if their house gets burnt down, but then again how many houses actually get burnt down anyway.
 
JennyGW said:
Which is what I said.
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Sorry but no, it's not. What you said is what I quoted, where you claimed that 10Mbps would not be with compressed data and that you might see this speed if your data was compressible. This is incorrect.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Sorry but no, it's not. What you said is what I quoted, where you claimed that 10Mbps would not be with compressed data and that you might see this speed if your data was compressible. This is incorrect.
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Oh really. CBA to argue :) have a nice day!
 
arguing aside but this topic comes up LOOOOOOADS of times. regarding upload speeds i believe andy (arad85) tried several cloud providers and only 1 maxed his fibre upload.

searchy searchy (try the computers section, as this is where this sort of topic normally resides) :)
 
Yup. I tried it 2 years ago now, so things may be different today. For me, I got best speed out of UK based upload machines which meant Backblaze (which was a variable upload depending on daytime I found) or BackupSolutions. All others had pants upload as they were US based. I think they all do try-before-you-buy though.
 
PS. Crashplan was one of the ones I couldn't get more than a Mbit/sec out of.... A brief read of the thread shows they still have this issue...
 
Bristolian said:
I find the limitation with synctoy (aside from it being a microsoft product) is that it only backs up to one destination and it's not automatic - as in, you have to tell it to do a backup.
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You can set it up using Scheduled Tasks, just click the help tag on SyncToy.
 
fabs said:
We'd rather people didn't have to if you don't mind.
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If you had read the thread properly you would have understood that I no longer have any intention of arguing. I thought you would see that as a "good thing".

Have an amazing .. ermm ... night!
 
BTW JennyGW... You may have written it wrong and it come across incorrectly, but it looks like you are saying if you have a 10Mbit/sec uplink, then to get 10Mbit/sec, the data has to be compressible otherwise you don't get close to that speed. That isn't the case - there is no compression of data needed to get this uplink speed (if you have 10Mbit/s up and give or take a little margin for overhead). You might get more than this if your data is compressible and the two programs at either end support compression. A lot of backup programs do support compression (and differential file backup too).

Not interested in an argument, just clarifying for anyone who reads this in the future :)
 
Ferj said:
It does but I need more than that!
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OneDrive gives you unlimited storage, I've probably missed a post stating this already so sorry if I'm repeating what has already been stated :)
 
Neilc28 said:
OneDrive gives you unlimited storage, I've probably missed a post stating this already so sorry if I'm repeating what has already been stated :)
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Is that on a paid account Neil?

Pete
 
arad85 said:
PS. Crashplan was one of the ones I couldn't get more than a Mbit/sec out of.... A brief read of the thread shows they still have this issue...
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Just read an interesting article about speeding up CrashPlan.

Here's what I was getting on my new BT fibre connection...

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And then I did some tweaking and look at the speeds I ended up getting!

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After a little bit, it seemed to sort itself out.

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5.9 up on a 17.93 Mbit connection is still pants!

I get 17Mbit up continuously on a 17Mbit/sec connection with Backup Solutions.
 
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