Treated myself to a windows 7 prof the other day. As it is an OEM disk it must be clean installed. No formatting your old disk to clear off the disks. What is it that is retained on the hard drive after a format, and how do you shift it.
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Sorry but your question doesn't quite make sense.
Anyway if you format your drive using QUICK format it just writes a new catalogue on the drive, this effectively wipes everything off the drive. So nothing is retained unless you start looking at sectors on the drive itself.
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and even then by the time youve dumped W7 ontop of those sectors the data will be mostly unrecoverable anyway.
but yes, the question no makey de sense.
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clearly..
maybe that never seemed to pop up during my GNVQ advanced, modern apprentiship, or 11 years working in IT.
or maybe you didnt word your original post very well.
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and I was making PCs when you had a separate floppy disc card and serial/parallel board and processors with numbers like 8086 ! When you actually repaired faulty boards with a soldering iron, scope and meter rather than throwing them away
I have OEM versions of every Microsoft OS since they started OEMing them!
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i think ive still got 3.11 on about 50 floppy disks somewhere..
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It was carp wasn't it
I actually sold a sealed unregistered Windows version 1 on 5.25" disc last year on ebay {although it might have been v2, can't remember now}
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ah 3.11 was alright, we used to use it at college (i think we were the last year to use it before the 95 upgrade). we used it on thin clients running off novell though. it was great we used to crash the servers on the token ring by un-terminating the connections and waiting for novell to do its loop test lol
anyway i digress.
i wonder if the OP has read the EULA on the OEM?
anyway i digress.
i wonder if the OP has read the EULA on the OEM?
If you're asking about backing up work, why don't you get a portable HD and just copy/ghost the folders across to it, so that you can install win 7 then move all your crucial folders (my docs/music etc) back to your computer? Plus you have a backup of all other files should you suddenly ever need a file you saved in a different folder by mistake...
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Just what I was going to say :rules:
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Actually it depends on the format, most of them it would be:
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Which is about what I was I was thinking as i read down the thread.A guy that works for me has an old machine that the HD had failed on ages ago and a few weeks ago his wife had the idea of installing Windows 95 to run a load of legacy games for the kids [I actually think it was for her] that just will not work on Xp or later - do you know I had to go googling to remember how to do it!
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A guy that works for me has an old machine that the HD had failed on ages ago and a few weeks ago his wife had the idea of installing Windows 95 to run a load of legacy games for the kids [I actually think it was for her] that just will not work on Xp or later - do you know I had to go googling to remember how to do it!
whenever someone goes on holiday in our dept (IT if you hadnt already guessed) we have to do something to their desk for when they get back. this has involved shrinkwrapping the whole desk and contents and turning the desk upsidedown and putting everything back on it..
anyway, we decided to swap out the HD on one guys machine and put 95 on it. tell you what we couldnt drop the system spec enough for it to install lol we ended up puttling linux on it lol
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You can buy an OEM copy of Windows with a "significant" piece of hardware so motherboard would be ok. Scan used to sell them with a £2 mouse but I think Microsoft got upset
The OP clearly has a lack of understanding hence the need to post the question in the first place. Then having a go at two people who could help him in their sleep was rather silly. Anyway I am sure he will work it out himself eventually.
The OP clearly has a lack of understanding hence the need to post the question in the first place. Then having a go at two people who could help him in their sleep was rather silly. Anyway I am sure he will work it out himself eventually.
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and im normally mostly asleep until about lunchtime..
Me too. I'm asleep now, this is my automated response server......
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I thought it was only me that works on PC's till 2-3am then sleeps till noon, well unless I fall asleep in the chair at the PC some installs take so long. Even my customers ask if they woke me when they phone before noon.
Scan forced you to buy hardware to get a copy of oem windows? I've never had that problem.
And the keep things on track, it doesn't matter if there is anything on the drive when your installing OEM or retail versions of windows, during setup you can delete the partitions and recreate them or format the partitions when it finds an existing install of windows what ever, there is stuff left on the drive that is how deleted data recovery works but it has no effect on the installation of windows on an already used drive, how the hell do you think people to reinstalls of windows on PC's? Microsoft like to screw you over enough without forcing you to buy a new hard drive each time you reinstall windows.
Scan forced you to buy hardware to get a copy of oem windows? I've never had that problem.
And the keep things on track, it doesn't matter if there is anything on the drive when your installing OEM or retail versions of windows, during setup you can delete the partitions and recreate them or format the partitions when it finds an existing install of windows what ever, there is stuff left on the drive that is how deleted data recovery works but it has no effect on the installation of windows on an already used drive, how the hell do you think people to reinstalls of windows on PC's? Microsoft like to screw you over enough without forcing you to buy a new hard drive each time you reinstall windows.
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It is shown on their site but irrelevant anyway because I would always be picking something up!
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and I was making PCs when you had a separate floppy disc card and serial/parallel board and processors with numbers like 8086 ! When you actually repaired faulty boards with a soldering iron, scope and meter rather than throwing them away
I have OEM versions of every Microsoft OS since they started OEMing them!
Ahhh!!!!!!!! those was the days, I remember them well I still got a soldering iron...
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I still do repairs like that. Not too long ago I got 3 BBC computers that were fault and built 2 working ones after removing all the soldered in RAM from one and soldering it into sockets in the faulty one. Yes back then you had to know what you are doing
Now they just replace things till it works, it's not quite the same 
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I still do repairs like that. Not too long ago I got 3 BBC computers that were fault and built 2 working ones after removing all the soldered in RAM from one and soldering it into sockets in the faulty one. Yes back then you had to know what you are doing
last week one of our engineers attended site to fix a faulty £150k x-ray scanner....his response when he arrived on site...."I cant fix it I dont have my tools with me"...:bang:..good engineers are thin on the ground these days....bring back things that could be tinkered with and fixed....
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I still do repairs like that. Not too long ago I got 3 BBC computers that were fault and built 2 working ones after removing all the soldered in RAM from one and soldering it into sockets in the faulty one. Yes back then you had to know what you are doing
yes they change boards with out finding out the fault and wonder why the same fault comes back.. if they know what they are doing then the cause of the fault would be found as well...
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That was a massive technology leap - a self booting OS
- i was still wandering around with 1/2 inch tapes to install operating systems on systems where you had to load the bootstrap manually using 32 toggle switch's on the front panel of the system and a new card installation usually required a backplane rewire , and you didn't replace a hard disk drive you changed the platters and the heads in the drive on-site then spent hours (overtime ) re-aligning the heads to the removable packs.
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That was a massive technology leap - a self booting OS
That beats me BBC model B was the first machine I was qualified to repair. I went off to their HQ at Cambridge to add extra machines and courses on. Went to a brilliant Thai restaurant that was just wonderful (and they made sure there were no prawns in anything!)...
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That was a massive technology leap - a self booting OS
hehe excellent
how old are you?
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hehe excellent
how old are you?
cheeky b****r not that old - i Started my apprenticeship in 1984 working on Dec (Digital) PDP / Vax systems and Data General Eclispe / MV systems , and i remember the first Dec course i went on was just for the backplane and it was a 4 week residential course . I still no of some PDP 11/34 and 11/84 systems that are still running today - due to the specialized functions they perform.Almost_Invisible
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I remember VAX systems with their toggle switches
Used to work in octal too. Was always being called out from the pub to reboot the thing because nobody on the night shift understood "those switch things".
We used it to test microprocessors/chipsets we had developed so was a bank the size of a wall connected to a very large table full of 3 foot tall circuit boards all finally connecting to a zif socket in the middle of the table. If any results needed logging the first hour of shift was wasted while you waited for the tape to find the end of the previous log!
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Interesting Thread...
That's the most erudite response I've seen for some time :shrug:
That's the most erudite response I've seen for some time :shrug:
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We gathered that as you cant work out how to install windows - then ****ed on any cance of getting any help on here
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Mmmmm PDP's, there still in use on our site. It's a b****r when they go wrong as spares are a nightmare. We had one that had a power outage and the floppy was stuffed, couldn't get one anywhere!
My colleague and myself still regularly work on Dec/Vax/Alpha's and old storageworks kit, it's more fun than 'my pc can't access the internet'.
We gathered that as you cant work out how to install windows - then ****ed on any cance of getting any help on here
Oh by the way, I purchased a factory fresh 500gb hard drive. It now is up and running.
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