Clarkson suspended by the BBC, TG taken off air.

boyfalldown said:
If (&it's still a big if) he took a swing at someone then maybe he ought to be treated exactly the same way as you would be if you threw a punch at work
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I've seen it happen at my work place, at a social function. Neither, despite it being a good punch faced any action, the victim didn't press charges. The aggressor 3 months later took a promotion. This is a major UK retail bank btw
 
ST4 said:
I've seen it happen at my work place, at a social function. Neither, despite it being a good punch faced any action, the victim didn't press charges. The aggressor 3 months later took a promotion. This is a major UK retail bank btw
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Maybe, but I'm betting if the same action took place in the office he would have had his marching orders. I'm surprised he got away with it at a work organised social tbh
 
boyfalldown said:
If (&it's still a big if) he took a swing at someone then maybe he ought to be treated exactly the same way as you would be if you threw a punch at work
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Indeed. If someone did similar where I work they'd be suspended until it was sorted.
Doubt they'd ultimately be dismissed though.
 
If they were to kill off the Top Gear brand completely I wonder what any future motoring shows could be called assuming they wouldn't use the same name a previous or other used titles..........

So far I have come up with......

First Gear
Second gear
Third Gear
Fourth Gear
Sixth Gear
Reverse
Automatic
Sideways
Burnout

My personal favourite though would be.....

Skid Marks :D
 
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The "story" is he threw a punch, the punch didn't connect so there's be no assualt.
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There is in criminal law. It would be debatable if it was in an Employment Disciplinary hearing though, but given the BBC's obvious dislike of JC, I suspect no matter what, it will be!

The problem is whatever any of us think, we probably wont ever hear the full story, warts and all. As I said, the problem with internal work hearings is they can be manipulated so although a punch is thrown, ignoring the fact that any reasonable person may have done the same in the circumstances is very easy to do.
 
Poor luv.I assumed it was over artistic differences or something. JC is many things, but he never struck me as a diva
 
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Looks like the presenters aren't taking it too seriously.

Clarksons comment to the press today:

Earlier, Jeremy Clarkson laughed off the controversy, telling reporters he was "off to the job centre".
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James May asked about the incident:

Asked if he knew anymore details about the incident, May replied: "Not very much, I was blind drunk."
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If the bbc had any sense they would have Clarkson in a tight contract so that he can't b****r off to another media outlet and host/produce/be part of a motoring show.

Anyway get rid of him and his lickspit hammond and get Guy Martin as the new host, his speed programmes were way better than anything the three stooges have done for a long while.
 
cowboy said:
Anyway get rid of him and his lickspit hammond and get Guy Martin as the new host, his speed programmes were way better than anything the three stooges have done for a long while.
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Might seem feasible except for the fact that Top Gear is a motoring oriented comedy program and strait-laced motoring journalists will doom Top Gear to the same result that happened around 2000...
 
cowboy said:
If the bbc had any sense they would have Clarkson in a tight contract so that he can't b****r off to another media outlet and host/produce/be part of a motoring show.

Anyway get rid of him and his lickspit hammond and get Guy Martin as the new host, his speed programmes were way better than anything the three stooges have done for a long while.
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Even tight contracts come to an end.
This month as it happens.
 
Guy Martin? If you want to fit a tea urn into the cockpit of a spitfire he's your man but a motoring program? nah!
 
There is no employment contract between the BBC and Clarkson. Therefore there can be no disciplinary proceedings. The way this has been played out in the public domain would negate any case the BBC had at law, the fundamental part is any investigation has to be fair.
This whole episode is looking more like a stunt.
It was more a fricassée than a fracas.
 
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I saw James May being questioned on the news earlier today. His responses were excellent - as ever.


Steve.
 
KEEFYP said:
There is no employment contract between the BBC and Clarkson. Therefore there can be no disciplinary proceedings. The way this has been played out in the public domain would negate any case the BBC had at law, the fundamental part is any investigation has to be fair.
This whole episode is looking more like a stunt.
It was more a fricassée than a fracas.
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This was exactly my thinking when I said much earlier in this thread not to worry, TG will be on this Sunday, Sunday after at worse, with JC and the chaps. Playing this whole thing out in public might appear to be a PR disaster [and would be a HR faux pas of some degree and disgrace in the 'real' world] but when you think about it, over 250,000 signatures on a petition and even the Prime Minister being reported as commenting that his kids would be very upset if TG disappeared from our screens - that my friends is a PR coup of the highest order!!
 
If it is a publicity stunt, it is a bloody strange one. Why on earth would you can the last three episodes of the series (which hasn't had any ratings problems) as a publicity stunt?

More likely the victim is playing things totally by the book and the BBC have to follow whatever their rule book says, which means temporary suspension while the investigation takes place.

Maybe.....
 
Doesn't seem to have stopped the BBC running repeats on BBC three. Surely of you're going to drop it/ not show while you investigate that means all of it?
 
I think the issue will be the current employment of somebody undergoing disciplinary proceedings. Not sure why they couldn't carry on without him. Will cost them a fortune since they will have contracts with god knows how many broadcasters to supply them with 10 episodes rather than 7.
 
Rapscallion said:
I think the issue will be the current employment of somebody undergoing disciplinary proceedings. Not sure why they couldn't carry on without him. Will cost them a fortune since they will have contracts with god knows how many broadcasters to supply them with 10 episodes rather than 7.
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would cost them a fortune to run without him I imagine, especially whilst they are simultaneously broadcasting it live around the globe this series, Clarkson is an intrinsic part of the program, there would be a LOT of screaming from those countries if he didn't feature. That also assumes the other two don't just say 'up yours' if they are told to work without him - albeit they might, but they would make a HUGE deal about him not being there on screen and probably cause even greater embarrassment for the BBC and laughs for the audience.
 
Yv said:
Oh and if it's not.... then the BBC really DO deserve to be kicked out of the tax payers remit and left to survive on their own...
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As I said,hit the b&b where it hurts, the licence fee. It really is outdated now.

Perhaps start a campaign of civil disobedience of not paying the licence fee?
 
Rapscallion said:
I think the issue will be the current employment of somebody undergoing disciplinary proceedings. Not sure why they couldn't carry on without him. Will cost them a fortune since they will have contracts with god knows how many broadcasters to supply them with 10 episodes rather than 7.
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Millions is being talked off. There's live events around the work scheduled to start soon, with appearances by the three that are now off. The series has been sold as a series of ten, so there's compensation for the withdrawn episodes and the shortened series.

I think the bbc has again shot themselves in the foot, jumped into action without thinking. This is now blowing up into a financial as well as pr disaster for auntie.
 
Byker28i said:
Millions is being talked off. There's live events around the work scheduled to start soon, with appearances by the three that are now off. The series has been sold as a series of ten, so there's compensation for the withdrawn episodes and the shortened series.

I think the bbc has again shot themselves in the foot, jumped into action without thinking. This is now blowing up into a financial as well as pr disaster for auntie.
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Post Savile they have to be ultra careful and ultra pc. If I transgressed at work I would expect to be suspended whilst an investigation took place. They can't win.
 
Rapscallion said:
If it is a publicity stunt, it is a bloody strange one. Why on earth would you can the last three episodes of the series (which hasn't had any ratings problems) as a publicity stunt?

More likely the victim is playing things totally by the book and the BBC have to follow whatever their rule book says, which means temporary suspension while the investigation takes place.

Maybe.....
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They're not canned.
Simply. ...delayed.
 
Yv said:
but when you think about it, over 250,000 signatures on a petition and even the Prime Minister being reported as commenting that his kids would be very upset if TG disappeared from our screens - that my friends is a PR coup of the highest order!!
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540,000 signatories a short while ago...
 
Oisin Tymon was the producer of 9 episodes of Top Gear 2012-15 and assistant producer of 66 episodes 2008-13. He also produced Top Gear: Apocalypse and Top Gear: At The Movies.
I would imagine he knew Clarkson quite well.
 
Rapscallion said:
I think the issue will be the current employment of somebody undergoing disciplinary proceedings. Not sure why they couldn't carry on without him. Will cost them a fortune since they will have contracts with god knows how many broadcasters to supply them with 10 episodes rather than 7.
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There is no employment contract involving the BBC and Clarkson, or whoever else may be involved. Set aside all thoughts of 'employment' rules, processes, procedures. There will be a commercial contract between the BBC and ano corporate body; who in turn will not have employment contracts with those people. All talk of discipline, dismissal, reprimand are not applicable in this farce.
That's the problem when the liberal elite get involved in business, they [PLEASE DON'T TRY TO BYPASS THE SWEAR FILTER] it up.
Whatever the outcome, Clarkson will be laughing all the way to the bank.
There is chatter that the TG deliverers are due to renew contracts with the BBC in April. All part of the posturing to get what they want, or sell to another bidder.
 
The imminent contract renewal is old news.
 
Interesting that on the BBC1 News at One yesterday it was the headline story with plenty of coverage. Tee-hee :D

This story is shaping up nicely.

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boyfalldown said:
Doesn't seem to have stopped the BBC running repeats on BBC three. Surely of you're going to drop it/ not show while you investigate that means all of it?
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It won't have been taken off air because there's a policy of "suspended staff can't be televised", it'll be because they can't do any filming with him whilst he's under suspension. The studio segments are filmed close to broadcast, so they would have to film them without Clarkson (but have him appearing in the pre-recorded segments).

In theory, they could go ahead with just Hammond and May in the studio, but given they are all mates they might refuse to do it. The BBC would then have no option but to sack them too, and be left with no show at all. I'm guessing the Beeb are hoping they can exonerate Clarkson and bring him back, or else convince May and Hammond to do the next series without Clarkson. A big sack of cash will probably help.
 
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