Christmas flooding

ZoneV said:
I've known him and his wife for years so it's very personal to me. I will be bitterly disappointed if we can't sort this out. :(
Click to expand...

Fingers crossed it does..keep us all updated :)
 
srichards said:
There was an interesting thing I read that dredging has been all but stopped due to EU regulations requiring rivers to be left undisturbed. Some think this causes more flooding as then rivers burst their banks more easily as they fill up with gravel, sand and other crap. If it has been the case that since 2000 rivers aren't being dredged and all these bad floods have all been worse since then it seems a probable cause to me. One that can be tackled easily. Just dredge the rivers! If you get the same amount of rain and places don't flood then you have rather easily fixed it...if it is the cause then the EU can pay for all the repairs and refund our money that they've wasted on this nonsense.
Click to expand...

It was the Environment Agencies decision to stop dredging in 2000, not EU regulations, though they have made it more difficult to implement.
You can read the EA leaflet giving their reasoning here
http://www.ourcityourriver.co.uk/downloads/Dredging Leaflet.pdf
 
Cobra said:
I'm really sorry to hear that ( no one took the images :D )
I hope its starting to settle down now (y)
Click to expand...

It got a ten from Len. :D

Yes, things are still calm at the moment. Just prepping the best we can before Frank shows up. Cheers Chris.
 
As long as my boots are dry when I get in them, I don't care how soon they get swamped.

Tyd flaen Frankie, dwi'n barod. (Come on Frankie, I'm ready). :punch:

dryingboots.jpg
 
Last edited:
I'm off to bed. The very best of luck for tomorrow folks.
 
Last edited:
The builders are busy working on next door. They aren't short of hands so I'm keeping out of the way.

Eerily calm here so far today.
 
Helped the builders carry buckets of concrete up from the road for a couple of hours to speed things up a bit, and helped them clean and pack up (the houses are set above and back from the road, up a narrow stepped path so barrowing isn't possible).

We've left the new concrete uncovered for now because the breeze will help it go off quicker, but I'll have to keep an eye on the weather and cover it when it starts raining.
 
Cobra said:
Can't argue with that (y)


I hope he turns out to be an anti climax for you (y)
Click to expand...

Thanks Chris, you and me both. I don't like this hanging around waiting, though. I'd rather be getting stuck in but there's nothing more I can do at the moment except wait.

Still, it could be worse. Some areas are being hit a lot harder.
 
ZoneV said:
I'd rather be getting stuck in but there's nothing more I can do at the moment except wait.
Click to expand...
I've certainly got to admire your spirit in dealing with crap :thumbs:
 
So far, so good. It's quite windy here but the rain hasn't been too bad up to now.

I'm thinking of grabbing a few hours kip.

How's everyone else doing?
 
I hope it stays like that, although the weather last night suggested that it won't remain like that :(

The wind really has picked up down here.
 
Yes, I was up again at 6 checking the drains and new concrete and the storm was in full swing then. The worst seems to have passed over now though, or at least the wind has eased considerably.

Everything has held up here with no dramas. Just spoken to the chap next door and he's fine, no water got into his house overnight. To say I am extremely relieved is an understatement, and I hope it stays out.

Unfortunately I don't think everyone has been so lucky. :(
 
Last edited:
It's not a question of 'if' it's going to happen again... it's a question of 'when!'
 
On the north wales coast/ Dee estuary here ,hardly any rain from frankie but the wind is quiet strong ,but again I have seen it worse .looks like it may have taken a more northerly course
 
Oops take that back just gone from clearing blue skies to black as the ace of spades in a few minutes ,looks like it's coming in hard and fast ,visibility dropped as well
 
A man from the council came to the house re my complaint concerning their management of the run-off from their land (the woods) behind the houses. (It's OK, he's still alive. :D)

Once we got past the "freak weather" (twice in one month) hurdle again, things started to sound more promising. I'm not completely confident though because there was a lot of talk about feasibility studies and cost/benefit analysis.

I should hear back from him in about a fortnight and look forward to reading his report. :)
 
Last edited:
ZoneV said:
I should hear back from him in about a fortnight and look forward to reading his report.
Click to expand...
Good luck :thumbs:
Different council I know, but it took my local one 3 months to remove a dead bough, that broke free in the high winds, about 20 feet long and 30 feet up in the air,
overhanging a foot path :rolleyes:

I hope you are staying dry.
 
Good to hear things are looking a little better your way, Zone. Hope it lasts.

Interesting article, Suz. The problem with emailing it to Downing Strett is that very few politicians can admit to ever getting things wrong.

Dave
 
Cobra said:
Good luck (y)
Click to expand...

Cheers. I didn't accept any of his early attempts to simply excuse the problem and I told him that I'm up for a fight if the decision goes against us. He seemed like a reasonable chap to be fair, it can't be an easy job.

Cobra said:
Different council I know, but it took my local one 3 months to remove a dead bough, that broke free in the high winds, about 20 feet long and 30 feet up in the air,
overhanging a foot path :rolleyes:
Click to expand...

I can well believe it. I know councils are hard pressed for cash but some of their decision making does seem very odd.

Cobra said:
I hope you are staying dry.
Click to expand...

Thanks. Yes, thankfully. It's grey and wet but no more than usual for Gwynedd at this time of year. :) The wind has shifted towards the S/W so the house isn't feeling the brunt of it like it was overnight.
 
Last edited:
srichards said:
Interesting article by Old Moonblat on the guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...public-spending-britain-europe-policies-homes I can't be bothered to check if it's already been mentioned :)
Click to expand...

Stuff like this has been going on for years.

An article from Natural England/Birdwatch named one of our local businessman (Boundary Mill Stores) in an article a while ago; http://www.birdwatch.co.uk/channel/newsitem.asp?c=11&cate=__12917

They took the unusual decision to submit a formal complaint to the EU.
 
Just looked up the outcome of the complaint.

Although Bannister faced over 40 charges and a public inquiry. In March 2012 the action was unexpectedly dropped and a deal worked out with the Walshaw Moor owner who was awarded public subsidies worth £2.5m over10 years, which is about half the reported running costs of his shoot.

The agreement allowed Bannister to keep and maintain all his car parks, tracks and grouse butts, many of which were the subject of NE’s intended prosecution.
Bannister also claimed, from the Common Agricultural Policy, subsidies of more than £45,000. He is also apparently receiving these staged payments because his original contract with NE was terminated and a new one signed. :rolleyes:

So not only have his actions probably added to the misery around the Hebden Bridge areas recent flooding, we the public are subsidising him!
 
Last edited:
I am not impressed that bbc.com refers to "el nino" as a contributory factor in the current global weather patters. The word is actually "niño". N and Ñ are actually different letters with different pronunciation. Sloppy work there.
 
Not really surprising since the Ñ isn't on a UK keyboard. And, it's the BBC!
 
Ricardodaforce said:
I am not impressed that bbc.com refers to "el nino" as a contributory factor in the current global weather patters. The word is actually "niño". N and Ñ are actually different letters with different pronunciation. Sloppy work there.
Click to expand...
I don't suppose the people who have been flooded give a s*** how it's spelt but you just carry on with your trivia.
 
crofter said:
I don't suppose the people who have been flooded give a s*** how it's spelt but you just carry on with your trivia.
Click to expand...

True.
But this year it's the north west (and of late, east).
Last time it was the south west.
Next time...who knows.
Wherever, whenever, it's tragic, it really is.
How though, do they predict where/when it will affect the next time?
 
Well, one of my daughters lives just north of Leeds and the other near Selby. Luckily the flooding has been all around them, but has not directly affected them. Got to feel for the people that have been hit by this, just awful.

Not sure what anyone could have done to prevent the extent of the flooding though. When that much water falls out of the sky, it has to go somewhere. Building higher flood defences just diverts the problem somewhere else and also concentrates the water so that it becomes more destructive. Main thing now is to support people who have had their amenities, homes and businesses damaged.
 
Looks like Scotland have really copped it now too. :(

Raining steadily here today, like it's mocking us. The old chap next door is nervous. Regular drain checks are the order of the day again.

This December rainfall chart explains a lot (we're a lot lower in elevation than Capel Curig but <15 miles away).

_87428645_rainfall_records_dec_2015_30122015624.png
 
Last edited:
That's shocking when you see it graphed like that!
I can imagine the neighbour is very worried..understandably :eek:
 
Cg_Girl said:
That's shocking when you see it graphed like that!
I can imagine the neighbour is very worried..understandably :eek:
Click to expand...

Yes. The neighbours and I have tried to persuade him and his wife to stay with his sister, who lives locally, temporarily. Unfortunately there are other issues to consider too which I don't want to go into here (let's just say his wife is unwell) so they don't want to go anywhere.

Unfortunately, the lady's condition also meant I was unable to lay a sandbag barricade inside their leaking kitchen, as she has a tendency to roam around at night and could easily trip over. This is why we were having to constantly sweep the water out of the kitchen to stop it getting into the rest of the house.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top