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ujjwaldey8165 said:
Certainly quite a few famous ones didn't do it themselves - they got it printed by others.
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Indeed, some of our most famous 'art' photographers use master printers to make their exhibition work and 3rd party printers have always been the norm in the commercial arena.
 
Ambermile said:
Yup - back home now (LS beat Harleston 4-1) so missed that chance. I'll hold you to it though and remind you in a couple of weeks :D
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OK I am game for it......:thumbs: What the hell, more than happy to give it a go....... whats the worst that could happen - trash a roll of film? - But you'll have to tell me in advance if I need a SD card / CF card or one of those silly Olympus cards to fit into the camera.........;)


as an entirely different point - its not necessary for a film photographer to do their own development and printing. Certainly quite a few famous ones didn't do it themselves - they got it printed by others. They were still very much film photographers.
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sorry - not worked out how to do multiple quotes....... and again off topic from the OP but we seem to be well and truly off topic now....

Is that not a similar principle to me taking a digital RAW image (composed perfectly - of course :)) and then sending it to someone like Scott Kelby - and saying, "Can you do anything with this please?"

I thought a lot of the art and craft with film was the techniques such as dodging / burning etc...:shrug:
 
Lynton said:
Is that not a similar principle to me taking a digital RAW image (composed perfectly - of course :)) and then sending it to someone like Scott Kelby - and saying, "Can you do anything with this please?"

I thought a lot of the art and craft with film was the techniques such as dodging / burning etc...:shrug:
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I was stating a fact that many eminent photographers - HCB included - got their negatives printed by printers. Regular 3rd party printers, who did jobs for many other photographers. They didn't do it themselves ( HCB might have known how to do it, but certainly he didn't think he had the mastery over the darkroom craft, else he would have done it himself. Didn't make him any less of a photographer).What you think of it is completely upto you.:)

I certainly do not think camera skills and darkroom skills are the same thing; the first skill makes you a photographer, the second a printer ( in the film world, anyways). Some can be both, some are one or another. But it is not necessary to be both.

In the digital world, they seem to have become synonymous - or so one gathers reading the various posts in different internet forums.
 
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to put it simply - I build houses for living but it doesn't involve cooking dinner for the buyers. everybody should do what they do best.
 
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Lynton said:
I thought a lot of the art and craft with film was the techniques such as dodging / burning etc...:shrug:
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Well, a lot of the art of *photography* is, yes. Digital users just do it differently is all. Remember everything you do in digital is a reflection of film techniques - there's nowt new under the sun really, so...


Lynton said:
Is that not a similar principle to me taking a digital RAW image (composed perfectly - of course :)) and then sending it to someone like Scott Kelby - and saying, "Can you do anything with this please?"
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Yes, exactly the same... the important bit being the "RAW untouched", the "composed perfectly" not so important :lol:

Film itself though does have a distinct feel that digital does not have, and I guess it's the holy grail of camera makers to take digital to the same level as film but I cannot see it really, film has good and bad points as does digitl - they are just different good and bad points!
 
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...and another reason a few people use film is:- EVERY old manual focus lenses that a few DSLR guys drool over can EASILY be used on film cameras (well they were made from them), and old MF lenses can give interesting results that your ultra sharp digital lens cannot match.
 
Kev M said:
...continuing on from some posts about 3rd party printers used by the likes if HCB you might find the two links in this thread interesting reading.

http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2940
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Thanks Kev, for the links. Very interesting.

BTW, I was reading the comments in the end of the article, and this comment just cracked me up :lol::lol::lol:

I know nothing of printing, so unfortunately I cannot add to that area of discussion. However, I would like to know if Voja [ a master printer, the article is about him] has attempted to produce/print any digital files with Lightroom or Aperture? ..... It would be curious to me to know how Voja would prefer to process a digital file.
 
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Hey Lynton: If you want to have a play with film you are welcome to borrow one of my film bodies complete with a lens for as long as you want. Sorry it's not a Pentax though - you will have to slum it with a Canon!
 
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