ceiling lights

[realspeed]

i got absoluely fed up with a pendant light with an old fashioned lampshade. So decided about time to upgrade to someting more modern. Nice little project for an afternoon removing old ceiling rose , small problem there were 3 cables into it( yes unusual but used as junction box as well) so had to break the plastic holding the terminals and taped them up so they could fit throug the hole in the ceiling. Added longer wires into terminals so i could easily connect new fitting. bit of a fiddle but this is the result.

 

[LeeRatters]

The multi angle lights are pretty convenient in all honesty.

Funnily enough, we picked up a new light for the dining end of the kitchen today. I chopped it about as it hung too low but was too dark to fit in the end.

An 'industrial' style one from Dunelm that was on offer last week.

 

[gman]

i got absoluely fed up with a pendant light with an old fashioned lampshade. So decided about time to upgrade to someting more modern. Nice little project for an afternoon removing old ceiling rose , small problem there were 3 cables into it( yes unusual but used as junction box as well) so had to break the plastic holding the terminals and taped them up so they could fit throug the hole in the ceiling. Added longer wires into terminals so i could easily connect new fitting. bit of a fiddle but this is the result.



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Nice, the install could have been worse. When I went to install a similar unit into our kitchen about six years ago it turned out to have lead wiring, and subsequent investigation revealed half of the house still had lead wiring. Cost a hell of a lot more than a bit of electrical tape!

 

[LongLensPhotography]

I went through similar work a few weeks ago. It was a right mess. Even the cable colours were wrong. Finally with multimeter and diagrams from net I worked it out.

The spot lights can light up dark corners well and probably is good enough solution, but actually for real estate photography jobs I absolutely dread them due to the shadows they create everywhere. I mostly never ever switch them on in that setting.

 

[Suvv]

3 cables at a light fitting is not unusual, in fact it is the most common. One set is the supply, one set is a loop to the next fitting in the house and one set is for the switch. The problem most people have is connecting all the reds together and all the blacks together, they then wonder why the supply trips. I have been to houses where the lights in one room only work if the lights in the adjacent room were on!

 

[realspeed]

Quick update
First time last night to see how good they were at night time. Against an old fashioned pendant light hanging down ( even with 100 w bulb) these new lights are so much brighter. Being able to turn each individually to where I wanted most of the light was a huge bonus. I did put in the GU10 5.3 Lumen cool white LED bulbs having made sure that they were allowed on the fitting. Some fittings won't allow that so worth checking.

 

[woof woof]

3 cables at a light fitting is not unusual, in fact it is the most common. One set is the supply, one set is a loop to the next fitting in the house and one set is for the switch. The problem most people have is connecting all the reds together and all the blacks together, they then wonder why the supply trips. I have been to houses where the lights in one room only work if the lights in the adjacent room were on!

Long time ago I went to a house after another electrician had been in. House owner was complaining that when he put the lights on in the dinning room the lights in the living room dimmed Tracing what went where with a multimeter sorted it out.

 

[LongLensPhotography]

3 cables at a light fitting is not unusual, in fact it is the most common. One set is the supply, one set is a loop to the next fitting in the house and one set is for the switch. The problem most people have is connecting all the reds together and all the blacks together, they then wonder why the supply trips. I have been to houses where the lights in one room only work if the lights in the adjacent room were on!

now its blue and brown, and green for ground

The set for the switch should be both brown. At least it wasn't here but it's not too hard to find out with multimeter.

 

[MatBin]

i got absoluely fed up with a pendant light with an old fashioned lampshade. So decided about time to upgrade to someting more modern. Nice little project for an afternoon removing old ceiling rose , small problem there were 3 cables into it( yes unusual but used as junction box as well) so had to break the plastic holding the terminals and taped them up so they could fit throug the hole in the ceiling. Added longer wires into terminals so i could easily connect new fitting. bit of a fiddle but this is the result.



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When was that ceiling Artexed?
Be careful if it's a while ago as Artex used to contain asbestos. It wasn't banned until 1999 so no drilling etc if it was done before that.
I guess one person doing a little drilling is not a significant risk but major removal etc should be avoided and specialist contractors called in.

 

[realspeed]

I used existing screw holes so nothing disturbed

 

[Bobsyeruncle]

I used existing screw holes so nothing disturbed

Removing screws can release dust/spores.
If there is asbestos in it, the content is likely to be between 1-4% so unless you were snorting it, its doubtful there would be an issue.
Artex with asbestos in it can be drilled, but you need to use a dust suppressing paste, and there are restrictions to the number and size of holes you can drill, as well as how much time you spend working on it.