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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8437433.stm

I stumbled upon this website earlier, too.

http://www.islam4uk.com/current-affairs/uk-news/421--coming-soon--wootton-bassett-march

This is political, and it's religious, so it's likely to cause it to be locked, but I think it's sickening.

It would be a good day if Religion didn't exist, but knowing the human race, we'd have found something else to argue about.

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This march needs to be outlawed, can anyone see a peacefull march by them through the town where so many brave lad has been repatriated.

I have extremely strong views on this but cannot voice them here as it would end up in me being banned.

I am not racist in any way but this is just wrong and must not be allowed to happen.
 
I'm no expert on religion but extremists have nothing to do with which ever religion they follow. They have taken something and mutated it beyond recognition.

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foodpoison said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8437433.stm

I stumbled upon this website earlier, too.

http://www.islam4uk.com/current-affairs/uk-news/421--coming-soon--wootton-bassett-march

This is political, and it's religious, so it's likely to cause it to be locked, but I think it's sickening.

It would be a good day if Religion didn't exist, but knowing the human race, we'd have found something else to argue about.

What We Are by Ernist Cline
If you get a chance, watch the South Park episode 'Go God Go' parts 1 and 2. It's brilliant.
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Saw the two BBC web articles, made my stomach ache; old wounds, not a good thing to open them up.


Dangermouse1964 said:
This march needs to be outlawed, can anyone see a peacefull march by them through the town where so many brave lad has been repatriated.

I have extremely strong views on this but cannot voice them here as it would end up in me being banned.

I am not racist in any way but this is just wrong and must not be allowed to happen.
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Shame really, love reading / hearing mature views, even if its' hurtful; but as has been said, this thread has two of the thorniest subjects.


foggy4ever said:
I'm no expert on religion but extremists have nothing to do with which ever religion they follow. They have taken something and mutated it beyond recognition.

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I couldn't have said it better :'(. What a shame, what single-celled creatures do, tarnishing the goodwill of faith and religions.
 
foggy4ever said:
I'm no expert on religion but extremists have nothing to do with which ever religion they follow. They have taken something and mutated it beyond recognition.

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I know that, and it seems a shame to tar all people who follow the Islamic faith with the same brush, but it really makes it difficult for the rest of the Muslims when you have these guys preaching destruction to the UK in one form or another.

It's really sad, as Wail said, when most Religions and faiths have a positive outlook on life - be a good person and be rewarded, be a bad person and be punished.

I for one am not religious, but being a good person makes me feel a lot better than being a bad person, and that really is the root of everything.
 
these nutters are marching because muslims are being killed be our soldiers.
so, technically they should be on the side of the soldiers who are fighting against the taliban who have more than a tendency to kill other muslims.

and these idiots who are marching give the vast majority of muslims a bad name that they dont deserve.
 
It has to be stopped, these extremists seem to do whatever they want in the UK and get away with it, just try doing somthing like this in their own country against them and we would probably be jailed in an instance or worse.

I can see it now Wooten Basset will not only be full of these so called extremists, but do you think BNP will not be there to cause even more trouble
 
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these nutters are marching because muslims are being killed be our soldiers.
so, technically they should be on the side of the soldiers who are fighting against the taliban who have more than a tendency to kill other muslims.

and these idiots who are marching give the vast majority of muslims a bad name that they dont deserve.
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I would not be surprised if they were part of the Taliban. Really.

Dangermouse1964 said:
It has to be stopped, these extremists seem to do whatever they want in the UK and get away with it, just try doing somthing like this in their own country against them and we would probably be jailed in an instance or worse.

I can see it now Wooten Basset will not only be full of these so called extremists, but do you think BNP will not be there to cause even more trouble
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It's getting severely out of hand.
 
If they are marching to honour the dead Islamics, I see no problem as long as they don't dis-honour the U.K. forces, especially the dead.. Unfortunately I cant see that happening so I'm thinking that I ought to go down for the march, just to keep an eye on things and straighten out any misunderstanding they have about the strength of my feelings regarding this.

The war in Afghanistan is a wrong 'un. The British Forces are not out there to fight a true and just war and in some measure I sympathise with the Afghan people. If this country were to be invaded by foreign forces I too would fight to the death to defend my family, friends and way of life, the same as the Afghan people are. this is nothing to do with race, creed colour or religion. It's all about defending your own.

However, if I were in another country and this, my Mother country, were to be invaded and I had had the same feelings, I would get back here to help as well as I could. The Islamics have that option too. If they feel that strongly they should go to Afghanistan and fight their corner.

They haven't done so. They are also free to gather in any town, anywhere in this country to hold thier protest march/march of remembrance. They chose to do so in Wooton Basset and I see that as a challenge to the strength of feeling of the British people and also as a symbol of disrespect to those of our countrymen who have made the ultimate sacrifice.

I'll not stand calmly on the sidelines and allow that to happen.
 
sheddy said:
If they are marching to honour the dead Islamics, I see no problem as long as they don't dis-honour the U.K. forces, especially the dead.. Unfortunately I cant see that happening so I'm thinking that I ought to go down for the march, just to keep an eye on things and straighten out any misunderstanding they have about the strength of my feelings regarding this.

The war in Afghanistan is a wrong 'un. The British Forces are not out there to fight a true and just war and in some measure I sympathise with the Afghan people. If this country were to be invaded by foreign forces I too would fight to the death to defend my family, friends and way of life, the same as the Afghan people are. this is nothing to do with race, creed colour or religion. It's all about defending your own.

However, if I were in another country and this, my Mother country, were to be invaded and I had had the same feelings, I would get back here to help as well as I could. The Islamics have that option too. If they feel that strongly they should go to Afghanistan and fight their corner.

They haven't done so. They are also free to gather in any town, anywhere in this country to hold thier protest march/march of remembrance. They chose to do so in Wooton Basset and I see that as a challenge to the strength of feeling of the British people and also as a symbol of disrespect to those of our countrymen who have made the ultimate sacrifice.

I'll not stand calmly on the sidelines and allow that to happen.
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Wise words.

It's phrases like this:

coffins containing the dismembered bodies of these soldiers are usually draped in union jack flags and driven through the town centre from RAF Lyneham, as a tribute to their ‘sacrifice'
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Why put apostrophes either side of sacrifice? Are you implying it's not a sacrifice? To die at war for your country?
If that's not a sacrifice, I wonder what the mindless individuals who bomb thousands of innocent civilians death means.

not in memory of the occupying and merciless British military, but rather the real war dead who have been shunned by the Western media and general public as they were and continue to be horrifically murdered in the name of Democracy and Freedom - the innocent Muslim men, women and children.
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Firstly, merciless? Sorry, what? I do believe it's the islamic extremists who are the merciless ones, as is Shari'ah law - you know, the one you would like to force upon the UK.

Secondly, what do you mean the 'real war dead'? Are the deaths of our beloved young men and women who fight for our country imaginary? F*** no.

Thirdly, I'd like to point you to the countless Islamic extremist websites showing videos of killing people with IEDs and god knows what else explosive nasties. Glorifying it, too. You say the western media shun the deaths of people other than Brits? Well, at least they don't glorify the deaths of the enemy.

Fourthly, horrifically murdered? Was it not the Islamic extremists who cut off a man's head, live on camera, to 'make a point'?

And finally, innocent Muslim men, women and children. Yes, some are dying. So why march in the UK? March in Afghanistan, defend 'your people'.

I have a friend whose boyfriend is in the military, and the soldiers speak of frustration. They know who's directing the mortar strikes, they know that the citizens know where the IEDs are, but no one says anything to protect the life of another, and they just have to sit in the barracks and effectively take it.
Boys, with mobile phones, on the phone to the mortar team telling them how much to adjust their fire by. While it's not the majority of the citizens, saying they're all innocent of war is ignorant.

It saddens me. Not a chance I would be so disrespectful as to go to Afghanistan and parade through barracks of the Islamic extremists, with a big middle finger held high, and honouring the soldiers they are fighting. I support our troops 100%, but to do what these Muslims on Islam4UK are proposing is the most blatant demonstration of disrespect I've ever seen.
 
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foodpoison said:
Wise words.

It's phrases like this:



Why put apostrophes either side of sacrifice? Are you implying it's not a sacrifice? To die at war for your country?
If that's not a sacrifice, I wonder what the mindless individuals who bomb thousands of innocent civilians death means.



Firstly, merciless? Sorry, what? I do believe it's the islamic extremists who are the merciless ones, as is Shari'ah law - you know, the one you would like to force upon the UK.

Secondly, what do you mean the 'real war dead'? Are the deaths of our beloved young men and women who fight for our country imaginary? F*** no.

Thirdly, I'd like to point you to the countless Islamic extremist websites showing videos of killing people with IEDs and god knows what else explosive nasties. Glorifying it, too. You say the western media shun the deaths of people other than Brits? Well, at least they don't glorify the deaths of the enemy.

Fourthly, horrifically murdered? Was it not the Islamic extremists who cut off a man's head, live on camera, to 'make a point'?

And finally, innocent Muslim men, women and children. Yes, some are dying. So why march in the UK? March in Afghanistan, defend 'your people'.

I have a friend whose boyfriend is in the military, and the soldiers speak of frustration. They know who's directing the mortar strikes, they know that the citizens know where the IEDs are, but no one says anything to protect the life of another, and they just have to sit in the barracks and effectively take it.
Boys, with mobile phones, on the phone to the mortar team telling them how much to adjust their fire by. While it's not the majority of the citizens, saying they're all innocent of war is ignorant.

It saddens me. Not a chance I would be so disrespectful as to go to Afghanistan and parade through barracks of the Islamic extremists, with a big middle finger held high, and honouring the soldiers they are fighting. I support our troops 100%, but to do what these Muslims on Islam4UK are proposing is the most blatant demonstration of disrespect I've ever seen.
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:clap::clap::clap: For a young man you do speak wisely mate
 
TBH I cant see the police letting this happen, If we know about it so does Nick Griffin's lads who will be drawing up battle plans as we speak and they will be there in force to make sure it doesnt happen.
I have voted Labour all my life but its things like this that turn everyday folk into BNP voters and can we blame them
 
Dangermouse1964 said:
TBH I cant see the police letting this happen, If we know about it so does Nick Griffin's lads who will be drawing up battle plans as we speak and they will be there in force to make sure it doesnt happen.
I have voted Labour all my life but its things like this that turn everyday folk into BNP voters and can we blame them
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The Police will be there no doubt to stop the certainty of a riot, but I'm pretty certain there is no law to stop anyone marching anywhere...

And it is things like this that have increased votes for the BNP.

From one f*** up (G. Brown) and onto another (N. Griffin).
 
In an ideal world the best way to tackle these groups would be to ignore them, don't give them any unnecessary media coverage. It would be like ignoring a 3 yr old throwing a tantrum, they give up sooner or later. Most of these members are sheep following a minority of hardcore fanatics.
 
If they allow Muslim4UK go ahead with this just think of how the repatriated soilders families would feel and the many more who will come home this way......god forbid
 
neil_g said:
sorry but voting for the BNP is like becoming a nazi because youve fallen out with your jewish neighbour.
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I totally agree, but unfortunately a lot of Britain aren't as intelligent as you and I. Listening to the trash Griffin spouts if you're a very easy person to manipulate is fairly dangerous. He's a very clever man.
 
I'm not going to comment on this because it's not good for my blood pressure for me to get angry, but having read this line in the link.

If you would like more information about the ‘Wootton Bassett March' or are Muslim and would like to take part in it please contact the following numbers:

Would it be legal for them to arrange a Muslim only march, if not there's the reason to stop it
 
foodpoison said:
I totally agree, but unfortunately a lot of Britain aren't as intelligent as you and I. Listening to the trash Griffin spouts if you're a very easy person to manipulate is fairly dangerous. He's a very clever man.
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I wouldnt say he was clever, more devious than other dictators we have known
 
foodpoison said:
Well, he's not an idiot. He knows when to slip his slimy tongue in for maximum damage, and he knows exactly how to wriggle it to cover the greatest area.
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Isnt that being devious...........more dangerous than clever or a clever way to manipulate, he is as bad as the Muslim extremists
 
It's been pretty tame so far. Nothing too specific to any religion.
 
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I suppose so, but if you were an idiot you'd be terrible at being devious :lol:

I'm surprised this hasn't been locked yet!
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It has suprised me too, but then again it is a quiet debate and no one has come in shooting their mouth off and so far it is one sided
 
Basically what it all boils down to, A radical extremist Muslim party are holding a demonstrational march through the very place we British people repatrionise our fallen troops, as a mark of disrespect to us, this should be treated as treason to those who attend and anyone caught doing this should be jailed and deported the next day as they are standing up against the will of the British isles
 
I agree with dangermouse. It is treason. If muslims were repatriating their, or Afghan casualties through Wooten Bassett, they have a perfect right, but this is just provocation by idiots who think because they can they will.
The same twisted logic that chavs have with alchohol.
 
Now I dont go along with any of Griffins policies but I am British and have been brought up the British way, if any of our GUESTS dont like it then "go home" you arent forced here to listen to me rant about OUR country.
We enjoy the good ones living here, after all where can we get a Kebab or Taxi at 04:30 and we do enjoy our corner shops being open till 11pm...............but what I dont like are the radicals that are taking the pee and organising a march through Wooten Bassett.

This is like spitting on our brave lads graves, and needs to be respected ........ lets see how many Mosques are remaining standing if it does go ahead.........nuff said
 
I don't do politics either Pete but the new Mayor in Doncaster has ruffled a few feathers with his commen sense approach to all thing politically incorrect.
 
foggy4ever said:
I don't do politics either Pete but the new Mayor in Doncaster has ruffled a few feathers with his commen sense approach to all thing politically incorrect.
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:lol:......good to know we have people that still speak their mind, even though it goes unheard:thumbs:
 
I think the case nowadays is that we're afraid.

We're afraid of being branded a racist.

My mum runs a pre-school that is government funded, meaning they have to follow STRICT national curriculum guidelines and adhere to ofstead's ridiculous rules.

Stupid things:
She is required to have a traditional muslim/chinese/indian clothing (yes I know muslim is not a nationality, bear with me) in the dressing up box, along with firemen, princesses, etc etc.
What sort of little kid, irrelevant of nationality/faith, wants to dress up as anything BUT a policeman/army man/nurse/superhero.

In the play-kitchen she is required to have a plastic wok.

She has to ask the parents of all the children if they have a problem with a traditional english nativity play at christmas.

she has to ask the parents of all the children if they have a problem with a christmas tree being put up.

she is required to have books on every bloody faith and nationality going.

You know what her problem is?
They don't bloody care.

The Muslim family, while being strict regarding their faith and eating, don't care about christmas trees. It's a part of British society that they are (and frankly, enjoy) embracing.
The chinese family are exactly the same.

Apart from the one chinese child and the one muslim child, the rest are british caucasian (we live in a predominantly white part of hampshire).

What she really has a problem with is that the majority of people from different faiths (and I'm talking 99%) don't have a problem with embracing our culture should they decide to live here. It's the fact that people in charge assume that everyone who isn't British or is of a different faith than Atheism (or lack of :p) or Christianity has a problem. And so we must adhere to a ridiculous set of guidelines. We're talking about teaching 2 and 3 year old toddlers about cultural diversity and ethnic minorities. Absurdity at its finest.

What I have a problem with, though, is that we have to ask people of different faiths if it's okay for us to continue with our culture. If it's not, we have to stop it.
Yet if they want to continue with their culture in our country, we have to drop everything and adhere to their requests else get branded a racist.

Prime example, asking if the parents had a problem with the christmas tree and nativity. If they did, and filed a complaint, my mum would be close to getting shut down.

Not allowed a christmas tree in the office in Australia should it offend anyone, but the aboriginy office staff can go walkabout, and there is nothing the employer can do to stop them. Exactly the sort of thing that goes on here.
 
neil_g said:
agreed.

however i have a feeling theyll only succeed in thrusting a stick in to a hornets nest and waggling it around.
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I have a feeling that is the only real reason this march is taking place. It will achieve nothing positive - nothing at all.

Quite frankly I am disgusted that any organisation can think this is a just cause worth marching for. Arrest the whole fekking lot of em for inciting racial & religious hatred because that is exactly what they are doing. How many folk who see that on the news are going to see it as a reflection of the muslim faith in general? Enough.
 
sorry ...Mustapha or whoever they belive in today????:shrug:or some one with a gun
 
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its about time we all rallied round and got this set of fanatical nutters out of our country, let the buggers blow their own trains and planes up and see how long it is before they get called terroriststs in there homeland..............we should still have the hanging law in place, see how many come over to cause trouble then.

British Goverment.............British joke
 
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