Car tyres a minefield ?

I run toyo's on my nissan which are next to useless when the temps go down below ~10oc.

Goodyear f1 asymmetric's are meant to be a good tyre and they do an all seasons variant too.

It's going back some years, but I remember replacing some heavily worn Michelins on a citroen with new Toyos, then just a few weeks later slithering into the back of another car on a cool damp road when there should have been plenty of space to stop. The michelins retained their grip in such conditions, even with little visible tread by comparison. Not all compounds are created equal, and the Toyos even wore quickly - thank goodness - though they were OK for the following summer.

I've had recent good experiences on a Pug 307 with Eagle F1s, though they wore quickly, Conti Ecos (but not great with ice and snow) and some mid-range Bridgestones (forget the name) that are on the car at present. If you can afford a midrange tyre from any of the major brands then there's a good chance all will be fine. The internet and everyone having an opinion is tending to make us over-think the whole issue.
 
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Doesn't need to be pushed to extremes. Temp was 3.5 degs this morning and my traction control activated in second gear under fairly gently acceleration. Mine are Continentals and grip is definitely worse in the cold. Fitted winters to my sons car as he is a new driver and they will help with his lack of experience.
It was 2ºC falling to 0 at times for me this morning. Same enthusiastic drive at same speed through bends and car felt just as well planted as at any other time. So if I can't notice any drop in grip. I doubt the average motorists will.
 
It's going back some years, but I remember replacing some heavily worn Michelins on a citroen with new Toyos, then just a few weeks later slithering into the back of another car on a cool damp road when there should have been plenty of space to stop. The michelins retained their grip in such conditions, even with little visible tread by comparison. Not all compounds are created equal, and the Toyos even wore quickly - thank goodness - though they were OK for the following summer.

I've had recent good experiences on a Pug 307 with Eagle F1s, though they wore quickly, Conti Ecos (but not great with ice and snow) and some mid-range Bridgestones (forget the name) that are on the car at present. If you can afford a midrange tyre from any of the major brands then there's a good chance all will be fine. The internet and everyone having an opinion is tending to make us over-think the whole issue.

The toyos I have are not the best and an out dated version. I wouldn't reccomend them for a day to day car at all. Mine is now only really used during the summer so winter performance is of no real concern.
 
It was 2ºC falling to 0 at times for me this morning. Same enthusiastic drive at same speed through bends and car felt just as well planted as at any other time. So if I can't notice any drop in grip. I doubt the average motorists will.
Oh you must be right then;)
Just worked it out 35 years of motoring on Summer tyres and I tell the difference when temps are low and as I'm an average motorist I'm guessing other average motorists will be able to tell the difference too!:cuckoo:
 
Oh you must be right then;)
Just worked it out 35 years of motoring on Summer tyres and I tell the difference when temps are low and as I'm an average motorist I'm guessing other average motorists will be able to tell the difference too!:cuckoo:
Or your driving is really that bad. ;)
 
TBH, I would call driving enthusiastically in conditions where ice could well be round any bend particularly good driving, however many years experience you may have! Apart from one time when I had to try pulling away uphill on compacted snow, I've not had my TC cut in (AFAIA).
 
For ice to be on the road they'd have to be damp/wet. Every wet morning we've had so far this winter, temperatures have been above 7 degrees C. The few frosty mornings we've had have all been dry. If it is likely to be icey then obviously I take more care by driving slower, but that is nothing to do with driving in cold temperatures on a dry road.
 
It was 2ºC falling to 0 at times for me this morning. Same enthusiastic drive at same speed through bends and car felt just as well planted as at any other time. So if I can't notice any drop in grip. I doubt the average motorists will.

I hear that there is a spare seat at Maclaren next year, so you should seriously think of applying, because I watched the practice sessions today, and there were some seriously shoddy performances from so called good drivers, who could not handle the cold and wet conditions.
I reckon a set of intermediates should see you through the 2014 season.
 
I hear that there is a spare seat at Maclaren next year, so you should seriously think of applying, ............................................................................
They couldn't afford me.
 
It was 2ºC falling to 0 at times for me this morning. Same enthusiastic drive at same speed through bends and car felt just as well planted as at any other time. So if I can't notice any drop in grip. I doubt the average motorists will.

let's wait for a light drizzle and dropping temperatures to -1C and below. I am sure it's not far, and in fact if you were in Scotland you could be enjoying it tonight.
 
let's wait for a light drizzle and dropping temperatures to -1C and below. I am sure it's not far, and in fact if you were in Scotland you could be enjoying it tonight.
Why would anyone want to go to Scotland?
 
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