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Why do the manufacturers make it so difficult to change the bulbs :banghead:

I've had both dip bulbs fail recently at separate times and luckily my garage guy says my car is one
of the easiest to change, takes a couple of minutes.

But it seems that more often now it requires almost dismantling the car, or taking the wheel off
to do it hence you see more cars with just one working headlight.

Surely something as important should be made simple to do ?
 
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Yeah you need about three separate wrist joints and the hand size of a pixie to do one of my Golf headlights.

I blame all of the extra space for crumple zones and seas of plastic in the engine bay.
 
Yeh I've gotten more cuts, pulled muscles and bruises from changing headlights than all the sports I enjoy doing and do more of...pretty bad really if I'm honest lol
 
Quite straightforward on the nice car, the whole headlight assembly pulls out of the front of the car when one fixing is undone so you can change the lamps on the workbench.
The dreadful turbodiesel Audi estate it's a bit more difficult as bits of plastic have to be unclipped and pulled clear and even then getting to the catches for the lamps is a bit tight.
 
You know how everyone wants low emissions? Not just to save the planet but also to keep your road fund license low? And you know how everyone wants five star Euro NCAP crash protection?

Well all that stuff has to go somewhere and it goes behind the bumper, around the headlights! :p

FWIW, lots of people drove round with blown headlight bulbs, even back in the day when headlights were round and their duplo bulb simply pulled out of the back of a sealed beam unit. ;)
 
Well all that stuff has to go somewhere and it goes behind the bumper, around the headlights! :p
I just knew it was those damned Euro-crats fault (y)

FWIW, lots of people drove round with blown headlight bulbs, even back in the day when headlights were round and their duplo bulb simply pulled out of the back of a sealed beam unit. ;)
That was probably down to driving around in town a lot,
back then, with proper street lights.
It was only when you went out in to the country that you got that
"holy crap" moment from those blinding 25/40w hi-powered lamps :D
 
Reminded me of a couple of old doodles . . .

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Apparently, I need to remove the front bumper to replace the bulbs
 
FWIW, lots of people drove round with blown headlight bulbs, even back in the day when headlights were round and their duplo bulb simply pulled out of the back of a sealed beam unit. ;)
Indeed. The amount of people I've seen driving with front or rear fogs on because they had no head/tail lights.

Either that or just plain forgotten to put them on at all.

Its baffling.
 
Indeed. The amount of people I've seen driving with front or rear fogs on because they had no head/tail lights.

Either that or just plain forgotten to put them on at all.

Its baffling.

Never understand it myself either. Yes, if I have been out and a dipped beam bulb has blown, I will use front fogs as a temp measure until I can get home and replace, but I have known people drive round for weeks on a single headlamp.
 
Never understand it myself either. Yes, if I have been out and a dipped beam bulb has blown, I will use front fogs as a temp measure until I can get home and replace, but I have known people drive round for weeks on a single headlamp.
It ain't rocket science either, if they can't change it then give it to someone who can. Or leave the car at home until they work it out.

Don't just keep driving round without the right compliment of lighting. Its dangerous.

The general quality of driver these days has gone down the swanny.
 
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It ain't rocket science either, if they can't change it then give it to someone who can. Or leave the car at home until they work it out.

Don't just keep driving round without the right compliment of lighting. Its dangerous.

The general quality of driver these days has gone down the swanny.

Thing is, with modern uber bright headlamps which totally overpower streetlamps and leave pools of shadow around them, driving on a single light can cause even more issues than it ever did in the past too, which few seem to think about. Only a few weeks ago the car in front of me moved over to pass a cyclist on a lit but oddly busy, nadgery kind of road [lots of roads signs, markings on the road, etc and some distance between street lights ] and only narrowly avoided a car coming the other way with its offside headlamp completely out, not even a side light working. Obviously I can't be sure, but I thought from a distance it was a bike, so I guess there is a good chance he did initially which gave him the couple of feet he needed to allow the cyclist space... or not as it turned out. Luckily the cyclist was a Highgate Housewife pedaling very slowly, one the lycra lout crowd might got caught up in it.



However, seeing as we are talking about being seen, can I have a mini rant about pedestrians, especially at this time of year when it's dark during rush hour. For the love of god will you please wear something in which you can be seen!! if you MUST wear a dark wardrobe, then accessorise with a pale coloured scarf and /or hat or something, so that when you decide to run out into the traffic without using the crossing, we at least have a chance of bloody well seeing you with enough time to stop. I am not being racist when I say this doubly applies to those with dark skins, because you don't even have the advantage of headlights catching your pasty winter white face. We go back to the modern bright headlight/dimmer street light problems, it creates huge contrasts for drivers and shadows into which pedestrians just melt and vanish. Oh and also remember [maybe this is a london thing due to there being a high number of non drivers who simply don't think about it, or perhaps simply a national lunacy] when the road is wet, or icy, we can't stop as quickly, so don't expect that we can when you make a dash across the oncoming traffic - the best drivers in the world cannot defy the laws of physics, so stop expecting that normal drivers can just because you think you can make them stop by just dashing off the pavement.

/Rant off
 
However, seeing as we are talking about being seen, can I have a mini rant about pedestrians,
/Rant off
Finished dear? :D

Actually I know what you mean,
I used to regularly come across someone walking down a dark lane,
with high hedges on "my side" and no street lights.
they would walk with their back to the traffic, black long coat,
dark trousers black benny hat.
they were nothing more than another shadow on the road.

It was a busy cut through between two main roads, you would have thought that
they would have had more sense.!
 
That's the advantage with carbide lights. If you set the flame long enough. It burns their backside and makes them jump out of the way. Before you hit them.
 
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Indeed. The amount of people I've seen driving with front or rear fogs on because they had no head/tail lights.

Either that or just plain forgotten to put them on at all.

Its baffling.

Will the fogs work without the main lights turned on?
I think your first answer may well have been true.
 
That's the advantage with carbide lights. If you set the flame long enough. It burns their backside and males them jump out of the way. Before you hit them.
We could always go back to the man waving the red flag,
then he could clip them around the ear with it?
 
When I bought the FTO I discovered neither dipped beam worked, and being a Version R it comes with HIDs which you can't change the bulb on from the engine bay. (You can on the Halogens). To change the bulbs you take out the headlamp. To take out the headlamp you take off the front bumper. To take off the bumper you remove some plastic trim off the bottom, supposed to be clipped in. Oh no, I discovered the last person to change the bulbs intended them to last forever and had riveted the trim on!

Only after getting all this lot out did I find the control units were also dead, so I replaced them with ebay cheapies. The light output was pathetic and blue, which was awful for driving on as with main beam on you'd have a patch in front of the car that was blue, then ahead of that the rest would be yellow from the Halogen mains. Could never tell if a car was coming the other way!

Now I've just replaced the whole lot with factory items again, and the difference is amazing, due to another issue I only had a driver's side light for a few days, and that one dipped beam on it's own outperformed both the ebay bulbs together. Now with both on it's a pleasure to drive at night again. Well it would be if everyone else on the road wasn't needlessly driving round in their Chelsea tractors with their HIDs right in my eye line. (Mine being a low car would only ever dazzle a jack russell!)

As regards HIDs as well, There is nothing more irritating that some ragamuffin insisting on leaving their German Penis extension with it's lights on pointing right through at the till staff whilst they do their shopping...
 
Why do the manufacturers make it so difficult to change the bulbs :banghead:

In my Mustang, I have to remove the whole front bumper cover and radiator grille just to change a bulb!! Not happened yet.. only done 16,000 miles and hardly ever driven at night, but sod that when it happens... someone else can do it.

My Micra is changeable from the engine bay.... if your hands are the size of a 6 year old!
 
It's well worth knowing about things like bulbs before you need to....

You may well find the dip beam and main beam use identical bulbs. (That would be a mark of a well engineered car), if a dip beam blows, you can swap it with a main beam bulb.

Still not legal but a much better "carry on till the weekend" solution.

And fogs on a well engineered car would automatically turn themselves off, (mine do), :) when you turn the lights off. Avoiding people still having their rear fogs on two weeks after the last spell of foggy weather.
 
Will the fogs work without the main lights turned on?
I think your first answer may well have been true.
sorry i meant forgot to put any lights on.

i think youre right about the fogs though, car depending. not sure on VAG, you pull the switch outward so dont have to cycle through the headlights but not sure they activate without heads being on?
 
As regards HIDs as well, There is nothing more irritating that some ragamuffin insisting on leaving their German Penis extension with it's lights on pointing right through at the till staff whilst they do their shopping...
err cough.. fwiw vw courtesy lights stay on for a while.. :exit:

dont have HIDS on mine though, just osram nightbreakers :cool:
 
Buy a Lexus! 10.5 years from new and still on the original bulbs ( thats every bulb in the car not just the headlights) and the original exhaust, 76K miles.
 
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sorry i meant forgot to put any lights on.

i think youre right about the fogs though, car depending. not sure on VAG, you pull the switch outward so dont have to cycle through the headlights but not sure they activate without heads being on?

VW touran, clockwise for lights, pull for fogs. First click for front, second for front and rear.

The pull / push action only available when at dip beam position.

And when the lights are turned off, fogs go to off too, and you have to pull again to get them on again.

I think that's how it works anyway, it's almost a subconscious action. As I said, good engineering. :)
 
One of the reasons I got rid of my Renault Megane, was sick of wasting over an hour with my hand through a series of small holes accessible from the wheel arch, usually in the rain or the freezing cold. I felt like a vet sometimes! Bought a Honda and now three minutes sees any lamp changed :)
 
Yeah you need about three separate wrist joints and the hand size of a pixie to do one of my Golf headlights.


This ^ on my Duster too, add retaining springs that come off completely and fall into an engine bay a mouse couldn't squeeze into.
 
I now know why Halfords have that small "from" £6.99 to change bulbs when you buy them;)
Thats said when I was in the garage have a new light put in he told about one of his customers that had
been to Halfords and they managed to know the clip that holds the buln=b in place off and it had
fallen behind the bumper !!!
The car was a like mine an easy to do one, but it meant removing the entire bumper to get the clip out
or buying an entire new lighting unit
 
In my Mustang, I have to remove the whole front bumper cover and radiator grille just to change a bulb!! Not happened yet.. only done 16,000 miles and hardly ever driven at night, but sod that when it happens... someone else can do it.

My Micra is changeable from the engine bay.... if your hands are the size of a 6 year old!

Quite like my Daughters beatle, you pull a leaver and the whole headlight unit comes out like a torpedo being launched.

The TVR on the other hand, access is through the wheel well. Remove front wheel, undo 3 self tappers and slide knife around panel to cut silkaflex sealant. James harriet impression to reach bulb but at least it's a standard H4 type after that. Replace panel and sealent. Easy really.
 
err cough.. fwiw vw courtesy lights stay on for a while.. :exit:

dont have HIDS on mine though, just osram nightbreakers :cool:

Good bulbs them, they may as well be HID's. I had them on my "bimmer" before I retro fitted adaptive headlights which are HID's.
 
When ever I get a blown headlight I take the car to Mrs Gubbies gynaecologist....
 
Wifes 54 plate megane hatch was a royal pain in the bum. Near side unless you had tiny hands tiny wheels or a car lift type thing in workshops, you had to take the wheel off because some designer thought the good place to access the bullbs was through a little hatch in the wheelarch. :clap:

Being a french car, and therefore having the electirical reliability ofwell anything French, there was a lot of rude words being mentioned when changing said light.
 
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