Cool, was way to many posts to read
there is also things like BMW and Mercedes insist on new battery packs if an airbag or seatbelt tensioner is activated during a collision, Mercedes are 12 grand each. Electric is coming, no doubt, and it is slightly cheaper to run at the moment, but it won’t be once the electric companies prices up like the oil companies do.
So your figure comes from during a sprint for 5000 per week production, first time ever producing at that rate for a young car company, the need for rework is high. Which other recently established car manufacturer have hit that production rate?
As I posted earlier, slow EV adoption means more polluting ICE sales. But thanks to Tesla, EV investments have now been sped up multiple folds. Musk have said the goal of Tesla had always been to speed up EV adoption, I'd consider this a success. I expected no less from your ability to spin this.
It was fixed price of £99 for me to install Pod-point EV charger, thanks to gov grant and Nissan. Would have been free if I didn't spec it up to 7kW for future cars.
Tesla have been building cars since 2008. Every time they have brought out a new model they have struggled with production.So your figure comes from during a sprint for 5000 per week production, first time ever producing at that rate for a young car company, the need for rework is high. Which other recently established car manufacturer have hit that production rate?
Tesla have the best battery temperature management for consumer cars. The only car that is better at managing temperature is Porsche Mission-E (Taycan, spelling correct?) but it isn't out yet and it is designed specifically for constant hammering.
Lane centring like Autopilot only became available in recent years, whereas Autopilot was available back in 2015. Please do show me a car that can do lane centring "for years" before 2015. Also, where is the mythical car that you claim can do autonomous lane change "for years"?
EV investment by traditional manufacturers are so slow, a glacier could catch up!
I expected no less from your ability to spin this.
Cheaper car => more people tempted to buy => faster adoption to EV.
The existing owners had experienced an exceptionally low depreciation rate up to now. This price change would most likely put them on par to other luxury vehicles.
So now you can get supercar 2.4s to 60 acceleration for cheaper than the slow 3.3s BMW M5, but with more interior space and more range than most petrol cars (my parent's Volvo S40 petrol, a Ford creation, can only do a bit over 300 miles a tank)
Everytime Tesla have bought out a new car, it's completely new. They never mass produced made a car before Model S, no one ever produced complex twin hinged falcon wing door before Model X, no manufacturer have never produced any EV in such number as Model 3.
Basic fundamentals of building a car is the same regardless of powertrain. Yet Tesla struggle regardless of the number they are building.
So much so, he keeps firing them into space
If you really can't tell the difference between lane centering vs lane keep assist (or lane departure warning), then all hope is lost explaining why 2015 Autopilot is only matched by recently released Nissan ProPilot or Volvo Pilot Assist.
There were EV cars long before Tesla you know. Ford had an electric pickup truck as I mentioned before and a 2 seater city car over 20yrs ago. But total lack of interest from motorists meant the vehicles were canned and investment in development reduced in favour of cars people actually wanted to buy.
It's so naïve of you to think it's all about number of cars sold.
Another example of traditional car manufacturer's tickbox mentality. All those functions although ticks the "lane assist" box, but they are nowhere near the level that allows you to sit back ready to take over and only monitor the car.
Until the last few years where EV range has started to improve, Ev's have only really been useful as a town or city car. They wouldn't need RS performance in an environment where the average speed is around 20mph and being stuck in stop start traffic.
Let's get this straight, you think Lane departure warning is the same as the car actively centering the car in a lane?
How many original Roadsters were there? I said S was the first car Tesla mass produced, was that a wrong statement to make?
Special parts that has to be custom made will be slower than big manufacturers. Such as whole new bonnet with correct colour.
Out of interest, what car have you got?Wow, upgrading the whole car over the air, that's impressive, especially the bumper bit
My non Tesla gets automatic updates over the air, communicates back with the manufacturer any issues to the point that I have been requested to book it in to have some warranty repair/upgrades performed (physical parts).
You are really struggling with this aren't you. The Tesla Lane Centering system will rely on something like the Lane Departure Warning system to actually register the car is wandering off line. Instead of giving the driver an audible warning (which lets face it is more than necessary because the driver should be paying attention anyway) but Tesla has taken it a step further and using a combination of other features that I listed, steers the car back on course. How can it be so hard to understand that?
You are the one struggling here. Let's put it in simple terms, there are 3 levels of lane assist: passive lane departure warning, active lane keep assist, active lane centering. How can it be so hard to understand that?
How am I the one struggling? There is no lumping of the 3 systems together. You obviously believe it all works by magic. For the Lane keeping and centering system to work they will need something like the Lane warning system to actually detect the car has wandered out of lane in the first place. Instead of giving just an audible warning to alert the driver, it activates other systems within the car to steer it back within or keep within the lines.
Why haven't you bought one then? You can afford it.
You first said other manufacturers had lane assistant for years (possibly referring to passive lane departure warning?)
I pointed out lane centring like Autopilot only became available in recent years. You stated A6 had lane keeping, which is a very bad system that bounces you within the lines, totally different to lane centering capability of Autopilot/ProPilot cars.
So now you are going back on your previous statements by saying there is no misunderstanding from your, that you had never lumped the 3 different system with 3 very different capability together.
Most manufacturers have a decade of experience to draw upon, processes in place and re-use proven tooling. Most manufacturers introduce a new model that is usually an incremental change to their previous vehicle.
I haven't back tracked at all, it is all down to your lack of comprehension. Not that it matters as it is still an unnecessary function as drivers should be steering the car anyway not relying the car to do it for them.
Let's write a statement about a forum member and doesn't back up with any evidence, despite evidence have shown you don't understand difference in lane assist technology and continue to be ignorant despite the differences have been pointed out. But if you say it doesn't matter, then let's move on.
Very few manufacturers come up with the same approach to car systems unless it is shared technology. Hence why they work differently and some work better than others. Regardless of how Tesla cars read the road or lanes it needs to follow it still uses a combination of other systems that cars already have had for years previously for it to actually steer and control the car. Tesla's systems won't likely be exactly the same but they are based on those that cars had previously.Let's write a statement about a forum member and doesn't back up with any evidence, despite evidence have shown you don't understand difference in lane assist technology and continue to be ignorant despite the differences have been pointed out. But if you say it doesn't matter, then let's move on.
I'll put my hands up and say I don't understand engines like you do, and I don't understand how car manufacturers work beyond public knowledge.
But it IS public knowledge that car manufacturers regularly lobby for less strict emission standards, also asking for EV incentives to be taken away. All while the fossil fuel industry receive huge amount of incentives. It seems the reason is that public want the same old ICE as before (according to a Ford employee)
Now consider the two following photos, taken 13 years apart. What would the average man say when you ask whether you want a horse or a car in 1900?
Now in 2019, what does the average Joe say when asked whether they want an ICE car or EV?
Who said that? I think everyone in here agrees that electric or, me personally, hydrogen will, ultimately be a good thing. However in its current form its not practical for everyone and actually that some of the modern diesels really aren't that polluting.