https://www.racfoundation.org/data/uk-pump-prices-over-time
My car has 22k on the clock, bought at 18k 3 years old in October. Battery condition went up from 94% on purchase to 95%, probably due to minor self adjustment and the increased number of cell balancing opportunities when I do my deep discharge daily commute.
The link you provided is fishy. Only sampled across 500 cars, 2011-2015-ish Leaf in America are known to have battery degradation in hot weather. 2013-2017 Sunderland built Leaf 24 and 30 are much more robust. This 2013 built Leaf with 100k miles on the clock in 2015 still has full battery bars: https://www.zap-map.com/electric-taxi-company-clocks-100000-miles-in-nissan-leaf/
EV battery are hardly the same as high power rechargeable batteries. When you leave your EV plugged in, it doesn't trickle charge the car at 100% like your laptop/phone. My experience with high powered Li-Po drone batteries tells me they are excellent as long as not left sitting at extremes (0 or 100% charged), I've had my drone for 3 years now and still get the same amount of flight time as before.
The cold temperature issue is true with my Leaf, 20% reduction in range compared to 10% reduction in MPG for ICE cars. Not too dissimilar. Similarly, I had to queue 1 hour to get out of a town last Friday in the snow, nudging forward slowly, a total distance of 1.2 miles. My fuel economy was in single digits. But in an EV, I would have only used 3kWh to keep the heater on, zero power is wasted moving forward slowly.
If I were to be spend £50k+ on a car, it will definitely be a Tesla Model S, No question about it. The EV powertrain driving experience is just so much better than ICE powered cars. As mentioned previously, Tesla supercharger infrastructure provides long range travel so there's no longer any real advantage to ICE cars.
Driving an EV lets you enjoy great acceleration from stand still up to 30 mphHigher power EV such as a Tesla gives you fantastic sense of power all the way to legal speed limits.
The sense of immediate power is very addictive. No turbo lag, no unpredictable kick-down power surge, no wait for slush-box to shift mid-roundabout. Just press the go-peddle and you always get exact amount of power you demand.
But the emotional attachment to ICE is going to go the same way as preferring to tend to a horse for your transport needs. The attachment to a brand that has "sporting pedigree" just seems plain stupid to me. If a new brand makes a superior product, then why dismiss it? I honestly don't see ANY reason to choose Jag I-Pace over a Tesla. The former doesn't have the charging infrastructure, no OTA updating firmware, and still sells their cars using slimy dealers.
Lots of useful info here: https://pod-point.com/electric-car-charging-resources
Asda do it here.
What capacity are the chargers and how many do they have?.
My internal combustion engine powered car suffers from none of those things, having a naturally aspirated engine with a manual transmission
I'm not arguing against electric power, and when I can 'refuel' an electric vehicle for 400 miles range in the same time as it takes me to put the 12 gallons of petrol in I would need to do that distance at 70mph on the motorway, I would seriously consider them. However, given that I've owned the same car for 14 years, the EV would need to be pretty inspiring to persuade me to replace it.
It's hardly fishy, its the only usage report based on a high number of users. Got a better example of a detailed examination of battery usage for leafs using more cars? I deliberately ignore the ones based on 50 or so cars. Your dismissing this case using 500 cars, yet want us to fully accept your experience based on a sample of one!
We get it, your an evangelist for EV and your usage falls into the exact point where these cars make sense, small journeys, limited mileage and you have an accessible charge point.
Very mature, it's as though there isn't a fuel readout on ICE cars.Those leaf drivers - probably staring at their battery readout
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/new.../dashcam-footage-captures-moment-head-1303864
No idea, my mate uses it (shops at Asda rather than Morrison’s for that reason)
I stated that EV is not a viable replacement meaning that it will not tick all the boxes for all the people as there is neither the infrastructure or is mature enough. I know it wont work for me as I checked out EVs and hybrids before replacing our Desiel Mini with a petrol. Batteries degrade full stop as they are a non stop chemical reaction, it is impossible for them not to degrade and you need to wake up and smell the coffee about that. Electric Motors also wear and you are more likely to be stranded because you've run out of capacity than you are to be left stranded because of gearbox or water pump failure. Incidentally I did look at the i3 but was somewhat put off to find out that if you ran out of charge you had to be towed back to a BMW I dealership. You also fail to mention the cost of replacing a battery when it has failed , because you don't know what it will cost and for a second hand car £5-8k is touted as being likely which is probably 50% plus of the value of 3 year old car plus whatever fitting charges are necessary. Yes a new Battery will solve the problem but for how long as the charging systems will not doubt become out of date or degrade!I'm only stating the facts. I quoted your misinformation and corrected the facts. Now you've retracted to how EV isn't suitable for you, which is fair enough, but please don't spread misconceptions such as battery degradation.
Similarly, I wouldn't buy an EV without a good battery health read-out tool. But after buying my EV knowing exact battery health, I now don't feel comfortable buying a second hand ICE car, because there's just sooooo many moving parts that can go wrong and will leave you stranded (water pump in my current car, gearbox in the one before it). With EV battery replacement, at very least you know exactly how far you can drive and therefore the car is still usable.
And I said it is a preferred method for a few people, yes that number is likely to increase, but only for people who have no real interest in driving or a need to drive every day of the week. It's only people who live in cities and don't need a vehicle to get to work that benefit from shared hire car schemes. Not everyone lives within that sort of environment.
Again, you are spreading false information:
Other than Tesla, I believe all or most other manufacturers can use the same socket.
Your views/knowledge of ICE is somewhat outdated, more and more engines are running chain for belt in oil to drive the cam shafts and don't need replacing. I am not sure if any manufacturers have put such engines into production cars yet, but engines are in development that have no cam hafts and the valves are operated by solenoids.
Correct. Although there are 3 sockets for rapid charging:
When looking for 3+ year old cars last year, it seems most are still belt driven. With chain driven VW 1.4 TSI have linkage problems and some BMW 3-er engine also have expensive chain failure problems. Same as EV technology, there's always newer better technology on the horizon.
2016 Leaf 24 means EV drivetrain warranty runs out in 2021. So if his car only has 8 bars (or 9 bars, he'll have to check the warranty booklet) remaining by 2021, he can get a new battery on warranty.
Sorry - just spotted this. See above. It's not misconceptions it's what I'm told by owners
I'm eager to cut my monthly payments on fuel if possible, EV seemed a cheap solution until I started investigating the issues related.
I may have to test drive the new Leaf
I think they'll only tax the public charging infrastructure, and (hopefully) at the same time mandate apartment car parks to install untaxed 7kW charging posts.
If only there's more choice in those type of hybrid.What we do is have a petrol or diesel generator in the back to charge the batteries, if only one day we could propel a vehicle using that fuel
Depressing but highly likely. Insurance companies will also be happy.
Sorry - just spotted this. See above. It's not misconceptions it's what I'm told by owners
You're insisting I ignore all other owners and data and just take your findings and experiences as gospel.
I'm eager to cut my monthly payments on fuel if possible, EV seemed a cheap solution until I started investigating the issues related. I'm trying to do due diligence, which included hiring one for a week to use for real, on real journeys
I may have to test drive the new Leaf
Sorry - just spotted this. See above. It's not misconceptions it's what I'm told by owners
You're insisting I ignore all other owners and data and just take your findings and experiences as gospel.
I'm eager to cut my monthly payments on fuel if possible, EV seemed a cheap solution until I started investigating the issues related. I'm trying to do due diligence, which included hiring one for a week to use for real, on real journeys
I may have to test drive the new Leaf
Again, I don't understand why do you have to replace the battery after 8 years?
What we do is have a petrol or diesel generator in the back to charge the batteries, if only one day we could propel a vehicle using that fuel
Some hybrids are much better than others, the BMW i8 is a stunning piece of machinery. A friend went toyota hybrid on his new company car and it's poor (35mpg) compared to his old CX-5 (45mpg)