Capture One Pro Users..... Is it just me?

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I've spent the last few days trialling Capture One 9 and I love the processing. The colours are so much better than Lightroom as is the micro contrast, sharpening, layering etc etc.
But Capture One just seems to be so full of bugs and infuriating to use. How do C1P users put up with this?

The catalogs are just plain awful. I spend an hour trying to add smart folders with various rules that just wouldn't work. After an hour of messing around I gave up and closed Capture One. A few hours later I opened Capture One again and low and behold all the smart folders where working. So clearly a bug there.

I imported my Lightroom Catalog (A feature in Capture one). Around 1/3 or my images never imported (CR2 and DNG files)

Having to switch your tool all the time is a pain as it is and even more so when the short cut keys don't work. I've had times where I can press v until I'm but in the face but it never changes to the pointer.

I spend some time editing an image from a smart folder and wanted to edit in an external editor for some touch up work. Capture One won't let you send a file to an external editor from any user setup group, smart album or album. You have to go and find the image in the folders section.

When I open Capture One it straight away uses around 9Gb Ram and after editing just a few images, It's using nearly 20Gb RAM. All the sliders and image re-rendering is unusably slow. A restart fixes this.

I've had a number of occations where clicking the Black and White tick box to convert the image to black and white does nothing. You can click it on and off until the cows come home but the image remains in colour. Using their B/W presets don't work either.

Does this company not test their software? I've been using it for a couple of days sporadically and I've already found so many bugs.
And they expect me to pay them 279 Euro for this crap.!!!!!!!

Capture One. Great Raw processing, really s*** user interface and buggy software.

RANT OVER.
 
I tried it and I found the same as you. I had high hopes for it but frankly it was really frustrating. Not worth the money in my opinion.

Try the On1 photo 10 much more user friendly. They have a trial download as well.
 
I also like the processing, in the media some hype is around at the mo about how much "better" it is than LR, maybe off the mark but I find if I edit an image with C1P9 and then do the same in LR compare them they often look the same at the end, but that's my eye I guess.
 
arthurbikemad said:
I also like the processing, in the media some hype is around at the mo about how much "better" it is than LR, maybe off the mark but I find if I edit an image with C1P9 and then do the same in LR compare them they often look the same at the end, but that's my eye I guess.
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I can definitely see an improvement with C1P and I'm sold on that, but the UI and "buggyness" just kills it.
 
Grumps1974 said:
I tried it and I found the same as you. I had high hopes for it but frankly it was really frustrating. Not worth the money in my opinion.

Try the On1 photo 10 much more user friendly. They have a trial download as well.
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On1 is not a raw processor....... yet. I have Photo 10 and I use it occasionally but I'm not a great fan of their software.
I will trial their new Raw system coming in the Authun but I'm not holding out much hope of it being any better than LR.
 
I tried the Sony version and it worked OK. The image processing was better in some areas than LR, less so in others, and as you noted, catalogues are clumsy. Went through a phase of comparing LR, CO and DXO Optics pro, but in the end found LR and On1 photo 10 did what the others did and with less hassle.

FWIW I've found that Nikon FF RAW files seem to need less processing and especially less sharpening, than those from Sony APS-C.
 
ecoleman said:
I can definitely see an improvement with C1P and I'm sold on that, but the UI and "buggyness" just kills it.
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Well slightly contradicting myself I did "fix" a slightly out of focus image with C1 that seemed lost in LR.
 
Haven't used LR for a long long time. C1 used to be really buggy but I haven't had any problems with it for a long time – especially with tethered capture.

It wasn't as intuitive to use originally compared to LR but after persevering with it I, I really like using it now. You get used to where everything is.

The only thing I'd take from LR - the spot removal brush. Far better than C1's.
 
Denyerec said:
C1's UI and Metadata handling need a LOT of work. LR is a completely joke when it comes to performance, but the UI and ergonomics are spot on.
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Funny you say that. I've been looking to move from LR because of the performance, but C1P for me is so much slower than LR.

It seems to be okay initially (uses around 9Gb ram on load) but after editing just a few images my ram usage has jumped to over 20Gb and it becomes totally unusable.

Like LR, the GPU settings make the whole process even slower despite my card being supported.
 
analoganx said:
The only thing I'd take from LR - the spot removal brush. Far better than C1's.
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C1 has two modes for spot removal, spot and dust, oddly the mode is selected in the nav window (mag glass) you can use the SPOT tab to hop spot selection and change options, I am sure you know already but just thought Id say. I am a fan of C1 spot tool.
 
I had what I thought was a highly spec’d PC (6 core i7, GTX980, 8MB DDR4 RAM etc) and also ran into some performance issues. C1 was fine until I upgraded to 9 and now it is using huge amounts of RAM when I work on large catalogues and the round trip to Photoshop (Tiff) has become sluggish to say the least. My performance monitor was saying that at times 97% of RAM was being used. I also had a number of crashes when moving large numbers (50+) of files between folders in the catalogue - presumably because there wasn't enough RAM to cache the files. I searched in the internet to see if there was something wrong with the way I had things set up and the only thing I could find was a comment about the preview size. I dropped this without too much effect. Having got fed up with this I’ve just bought some additional RAM (32GB!) and installed it last night. C1 and the Photoshop round trip now fly as one would hope.

I’m now running a PC with 40Gb RAM and if anyone had said, when I bought my PC last year, that I would need so much RAM to do RAW processing, I’d have laughed. Although I probably don’t need quite so much, RAM is relatively cheap at the moment so I went for it.

As an additional note: I have found that C1 particularly struggled when I had a folder with many (600+) images. This I found to be a problem as my workflow involves me dumping all my images into a download folder from where I do my first cull, and then transfer to my job/event/species folders. From there I process and save into dedicated Tiff and JPEG sub-folders. This of course maybe a really bad way of doing things but it works in my mind!
 
ecoleman said:
Not sure if that question was for me, but I'm on a Mac.
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Some of my mentorees and students are on PC and through
TeamViewer I can see the differences. Others are on MAC
like I and, except for those who insist to work with libraries,
I observe that their app is working just as fine as mine both
in archiving and in studio.

Btw, v. 9.2 is out!
 
C1P has been pretty stable for me, but I work in sessions not libraries though.

As for the UI you can customise it to pretty much how you want, commit an hour or two in sorting out your workspace and you'll be able to breeze through shoots in no time.
 
FruitFlakes said:
C1P has been pretty stable for me, but I work in sessions not libraries though. As for the UI you can customise it to pretty much how you want, commit an hour or two in sorting out your workspace and you'll be able to breeze through shoots in no time.
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I have been using C1pro and have none of those issues, maybe a corrupt install?

I love C1 Pro, but I am tempted to switch to LR, however its handling of Fuji xtrans is rubbish.

The reason I am thinking about the move is the subscription with PS as its only £6 month with a discount code.
 
arthurbikemad said:
C1 has two modes for spot removal, spot and dust, oddly the mode is selected in the nav window (mag glass) you can use the SPOT tab to hop spot selection and change options, I am sure you know already but just thought Id say. I am a fan of C1 spot tool.
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Learn something new everyday! Nice one!
 
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