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Anyone using this software here.

I been trying it out as it seem get some reviews now and good pricing.

Problem I am having is when I edit with a external editor such as Nik software I select it export JPEG but it not goof quality where am I going wrong. Tiff is better but files are large as we know.

Any help pls as like see if can settle on this rather than Lightroom

Cheers
 
Parlez vous Francais? Kodiak might be your man. But it might help (for all of us) if you could re-write your query a bit more precisely ...
 
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Thanks for the introduction @droj !
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Andrew, I'll try my best to do this in English…

There are only three things in my workflow with CO9:
a good raw, CO9 and me! (you in your case). No tiff, jpg or else.

CO9 is made for RAW photography and not for imagery (for this, one
needs a pixel editor like Affinity Photo i.e. if you are on MAC that is)
and the thinking is to stay in CO9 as long as possible. To do so, CO9
offers a most extended set of tools, well known for some and less known
for others, and some exclusive approaches to post-production and workflow.

Process you files in CO9, publish them, say in jpg, and then take the
images to a pixel editor to do… whatever …but don't think to come
back with it in CO9. Though CO9 can handle other formats, it is best
used on RAW files… as it is a professional RAW converter.

You might get more specific answers if you ask more specific questions.
 
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Hi

Thank you

But Nik software doesn't use raw it use tiff or JPEG. But as we know tiff are larger files. So what the best way round this pls?

If I have to send it to Nik in tiff when done and gone back to CO9 how dominate it to JPEG without losing details pls or to best quality as can't leave Giles to,tiff otherwise HD will fill up
 
Ok that a shame as tiff are large files. But when I done with Nic with tiff when I got final results. What best setting in JPEG to export I know slider to 10. The. Umber at 300 what best to have that at pls? Also I notice it only 8 bits
 
If can't overcome this will have buy Lightroom as that handles it fine
 
For example what the best to have this at. What the highest value can the 300 be at.

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There should be no trouble exporting from C1 in high quality jpegs.

It produces gorgeous jpegs for me
 
In that same settings as above??
 
Should 300 be Higher
 
Looking at your screen capture, I'm sure there's been loads of threads about keeping your workflow in SRGB, rather than RGB you have in the screen capture. SRGB keeps your workflow simplier.
 
Once you go to jpeg you are degrading the source file, i.e. the file you are going to work on in Nik. Tif format is large, no debate there, but they are 16 bit vs 8 bit of jpeg, you will get far better results using tif.
 
Ok such a Shame the tiff are larger than raw.

So when I done my work in nik using tiff back to capture what shall I do to reduce file size.

Reason I am asking is when I was trying Lightroom with nik I never saw much degrade in quality than I do with capture
 
Swanseajack said:
Looking at your screen capture, I'm sure there's been loads of threads about keeping your workflow in SRGB, rather than RGB you have in the screen capture. SRGB keeps your workflow simplier.
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Thank for pointing that out. Yes I e always worked in srgb didn't notice it was rgb at default
 
Andrew, it has been a while since I used capture one, and I never used Nik s/w with it, but I did use photoshop with it. My workflow was this C1 - all raw conversion/wb/exposure corrections etc - export as tif to ps for any cloning/other work - export as jpeg for web use as appropriate or other format if needed for printing (some printers want pdf for example, some wanted psd's too rather oddly imo). I never went back into C1. If no cloning was needed I just exported from C1 for final use. tbh I prefer using LR/PS now as I find it easier.
 
Thank you.

I will look into it more later then decide. But quite like capture one but not liking the way it export to Nik it not as good as LR in that regards
 
ecoleman said:
Nic is a pixel editor. For best quality you will need to use tif files. There is no way around it.
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Yes, correct. The tiff format is an uncompressed 4 channels image vs
the RAW that is not an image but just raw data. the RAW file must be
converted to an image to be processed by a pixel editor.
 
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Ok I understand. What your best advice on setting when I need export to external editor pls I like best image as possible. Higher pix? 2000??
 
Andrew, email me your RAW file and I will send it back processed to Jpeg, I will record the steps on a screen recorder unless you want to do a skype screen share?
 
Sorry don't have Skype. Maybe you do a video for me pls. All I want know best way to go from this to nik without losing too much details. That all pls :) when you done your process do u them them as raw or convert ?
 
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What about jpeg

Am using C1 express
 
sent you a message with a screen recording which will hopefully point you in the right direction.
 
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This may interest some of us!
 
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By exporting to jpeg and THEN editing further you will always reduce the quality of your image. To stop your images degrading you must stop using jpeg. The difference in file size is caused by image detail being thrown away, and every time you save a jpeg with changes you throw more image quality away.

If you MUST save space then export the image to Nik as uncompressed 16 bit tiff, perform your editing and when your image is completely finished and will not be edited again, THEN export as jpeg and delete the tiff file.
 
ancient_mariner said:
By exporting to jpeg and THEN editing further you will always reduce the quality of your image. To stop your images degrading you must stop using jpeg. The difference in file size is caused by image detail being thrown away, and every time you save a jpeg with changes you throw more image quality away.

If you MUST save space then export the image to Nik as uncompressed 16 bit tiff, perform your editing and when your image is completely finished and will not be edited again, THEN export as jpeg and delete the tiff file.
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Your image will 'degrade' using tiff

However it will not be noticeable mostly, save an 80% jpeg and a 100% JPEG, print it and I bet you can't tell the difference.

Theory and practice application are somewhat different.
 
Kodiak Qc said:
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This is a heart braking idea since
all the editable work will be lost…
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Not really as the raw file still be there. The idea is keep raw and the final edited JPEG and erase tiff
 
rookies said:
Not really as the raw file still be there. The idea is keep raw and the final edited JPEG and erase tiff
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What ever work cannot be performed in a converter will end up as
tiff in a pixel editor. Sometimes, there may be complex imaging on
multiple editable layers and… this is what is heat breaking to me!
 
Kodiak Qc said:
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What ever work cannot be performed in a converter will end up as
tiff in a pixel editor. Sometimes, there may be complex imaging on
multiple editable layers and… this is what is heat breaking to me!
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Are you saying you do all your work within Capture One?
 
rookies said:
Are you saying you do all your work within Capture One?
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As I explained earlier in the thread, the idea of behind this
professional converter is for the developers/programmers
to help you stay longer in CO9.

Yes, most of my professional pre-publishing work is done
at say 90 to 95% in CO9, all my photos are processed in
CO9 and 5 to 10 % will visit my pixel editor for things to
be done that are not in the scope of a converter.

CO9 is the ultimate engine and set of tools… even layers!
 
Kodiak Qc said:
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As I explained earlier in the thread, the idea of behind this
professional converter is for the developers/programmers
to help you stay longer in CO9.

Yes, most of my professional pre-publishing work is done
at say 90 to 95% in CO9, all my photos are processed in
CO9 and 5 to 10 % will visit my pixel editor for things to
be done that are not in the scope of a converter.

CO9 is the ultimate engine and set of tools… even layers!
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I do understand. I just feel it does do heal very good as it called spot

Maybe you show me a before and after to show me how good it can be pls?
 
No I mean 2 images a before and after. I don't have either those software sorry
 
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Kodiak Qc said:
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The following CR2 example is from an american mentoree of mine.
She shot on Sunday at the local park just for fun and got this take
among others. During the mentoring session on CO9, the picture
was processed and the final rendition, including adjustment layers
and healing, is following it.

The black tube in the foreground was healed out:


IMG_1908%201.jpg


IMG_1908.jpg

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She still has to heal out the tube across the ice… her homework! ;-)
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To me she's made it too dark and the snow no longer looks white...
 
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