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As soon as this years wedding season slows Im changing systems from Canon to Nikon ... mainly for image quality Ive used Canon for years now.
but find the AF and deatail in the d3/d3s better.
anynone made this swop and how have you found the Nikons.
 
Several on here have and I'll await the S***-Storm from all the outraged Canon-owners with interest...

Good decision, by the way...
 
Arkady said:
Several on here have and I'll await the S***-Storm from all the outraged Canon-owners with interest...

Good decision, by the way...
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yes Im expecting that .:bat:
 
Quick, follow me and I'll take you to the safe house. It will be several weeks before they stop hunting your scalp.

:D
 
I sort of went the other way, I used to have Nikon equipment,D50, D200, D700 and D90. I sold it all, went cameraless for a while and now have bought some Canon gear.

In my limited experience, image quality wise, there isnt much in it between the D200/D90 and the 450D, however Im really struggling with the ergonomics of the canon. The buttons just dont seem in a logical place. The on/off button is just bizzare and trying to add Ex comp is really fiddly. Also the build quality of the canon doesnt feel close to any of the Nikons. Even the bottom end Nikons have great ergonomics and the buttons fall instantly to hand

Im getting tempted back to Nikon, but its early days yet, so Im going to give it a chance. I think Canon have a better range of lenses too, that was one of the reasons I changed.
 
Have a word with Rovers_Andy. He spoke to Nikon and they arranged one hell of a discount and even found the dealer to take all the Canon stuff off his hands as part of the whole package. He saved quite a bit!
 
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cowasaki said:
Have a word with Rover_Andy. He spoke to Nikon and they arranged one hell of a discount and even found the dealer to take all the Canon stuff off his hands as part of the whole package. He saved quite a bit!
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Sounds good ,
Im just going out the door to shoot a wedding I will check this out later,,
Thanks
 
kennycanon said:
Sounds good ,
Im just going out the door to shoot a wedding I will check this out later,,
Thanks
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Then you will have to sweet talk Marcel to change your user name to KennyNikon :D
 
Have fun Ian.

I did it in Feb this year and it's weddings I shoot too so hopefully my experience is relevant to you.

Just do it! ;)

I went from a 1DsII and a 5D to 2 D700s. The Nikon lenses are blindingly good. The IQ is stunning to the point that unless I have something in shot that need cloning out I do very little PP to my images now. Import into LR with my own preset and it's pretty much done! (Yes I still need to WB too) So they have actually had a huge impact in my workflow.

The higer ISO shots are just a dream. Where I was at ISO1600 on the (admittedly older) Canons and just about getting 1/60 I just hike the ISO to 3200 or 6400 and safely work at the higher shutter speeds and I still don't have to run NR on the files afterwards so no balancing act required any more.

Took me a little time to get used to all the dials and flip switches on therm but now I have them setup to do the job I just plonk them back on default settings of ISO 200 Aperture priority at f2.8, single point AF and I know that they are ready for the next one. I might have to hike the ISO depending on the location shooting bridal prep but each bridal prep is lit differently anyway so that's the only thing I need to assess and change out of the bag.

I now love all the buttons on the Nikons, I can change settings as I need to without having to delve around in menus.

Oh and the flash system is also streets ahead of anything you have seen till now. The inbuilt flash on my D700 can control 2 SB900's (it can control more but I'm not buying any more at that price!) You would have to use one as a controller or get a flash controller SU800 to do that on the D3 but it is the dogs danglies!

I was shooting with a D3s at a wedding yesterday and the high ISO on that is unreal. Not quite so many times you really need to hike it but it's a gorgeous piece of kit. The D700's are ideal for me and having two identical cameras is also a bonus.
 
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It looks like you're shooting weddings on a 1D3 :thinking: Are they racing up the aisle? It's just not the best machine for the job.

Just check which lenses you need before you jump, and try a 5D2 or 1Ds.

Nikons are good, no question, but historically it's always been about 50/50. I'm not sure anything fundamental has changed there either, if you look at the range overall.
 
kennycanon said:
As soon as this years wedding season slows Im changing systems from Canon to Nikon ... mainly for image quality Ive used Canon for years now.
but find the AF and deatail in the d3/d3s better.
anynone made this swop and how have you found the Nikons.
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Yes i did in March and i'm very happy with the D3S'S :D

i had 2 1DMKIII, 400 f/2.8 300 f/2.8 (for about 4 weeks :lol:) 135 f/2 50 f/14 tc's and flash.

i had issues with both MKIII playing up at the same time, i got fed up having sent the kit to an "authorised repair centre" :suspect: paid £650 and got the kit back in a worse condition, Canon took a week to respond so i jumped to Nikon, best thing i did.

For me the Nikon kit wins hands down, works straight out of the box, no arsing around with AF micro adjustment, great colour rendition, bulletproof AF and excellent high ISO
 
is it really so hard to get good pictures from either...??

pedantic lot!!..:D
 
I like both, though my only Canon ATM is an S5. I just find technique and lighting makes shots, not cameras. But Nikon glass...sigh...
 
Ian, I swapped in September 2008, knowing that my first professional weddings would be in the following spring.

I've never regretted it once. I think Nikon's lenses are sharper, I think the ISO capabilities are second-to-none, the handling is better (for me) and auto focus is streets ahead.

Two negatives - I found Canon's white balance to be a little more accurate and I found the Canon flash system more intuitive than the Nikon CLS system.

There you go - I've tried to give as balanced an answer as I can.

Would I ever go back to Canon - no. Do I regret swapping - no. Am I happy with the kit I own now - yes, happiest I've ever been.

I also think there are exciting times ahead for Nikon users with new kit to come and the latest releases look good too.

HTH
 
Outraged! from the East Midlands say's said:
It looks like you're shooting weddings on a 1D3 :thinking: Are they racing up the aisle? It's just not the best machine for the job.

Just check which lenses you need before you jump, and try a 5D2 or 1Ds.

Nikons are good, no question, but historically it's always been about 50/50. I'm not sure anything fundamental has changed there either, if you look at the range overall.
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:)
 
Not a pro or anything but I moved from Canon over to Nikon just in the last month or two. The D700 with it's great ISO, AF etc and the Nikon 24-70mm will do me for about 95% of what I like to shoot. Probably add in a 70-200mm VR II at a later date or maybe an 85mm f/1.4 (still miss the Canon 85mm f/1.2 II) but for me the Nikon D700 + 24-70 benefits outweighed the 5D Mk II + 24-70.
 
My friend moved from EOS 1d Mk2 to D3 about a year ago and he is still in love with the Nikon, to be fair the quality of his work / images is really on the mark (+ I bought a load of his canon gear at the right price cause im on a budget)

Hope this helps
 
no where near a pro (amatuer at best) but I owned a 40D, was cameraless for 2 years and have just bought a D40 and upgrading to a D90 soon. I am alot happier with Nikon, even with my lowly D40 compared to the 40D. It just feels more intuitive and handles alot better
 
I was running a 1DMkIII and a MkII along with a pile of L glass.

Would I change back, not a chance. The buttons are still in the wrong places and I don't find the flash system that easy to use but for most of my work it's streets ahead of what I had.
 
thanks for all the info .
looks like I will sell the Canon 1d mk111 to purchase the Nikon d700 .
and then buy the d3s .
the the task of selling all my canon L stuff.
looking at getting the d700 first as of on holiday soon and its smaller to carry when out for wildlife.
anyone wana swap a 1d mk3 mint cond for a d700 ..........ha ha
 
vicmac said:
My friend moved from EOS 1d Mk2 to D3 about a year ago and he is still in love with the Nikon, to be fair the quality of his work / images is really on the mark (+ I bought a load of his canon gear at the right price cause im on a budget)

Hope this helps
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Well, what else would you expect, a 1D2 is ancient and a D3 is relatively new tech. Assuming ample skill from the person behind the kit, the newer kit will theoretically help them produce better images. It's not because it's a <insert manufacter here>, it's because it's newer.

I'm not a fanboy of any brand by the way, it just makes me :thinking: a little when people move from ancient gear to much newer gear of another manufacturer, and then on come the rose tinted glasses as if the newer manufacturer is suddenly better :shrug::thumbs:
 
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I'm not a fanboy of any brand by the way, it just makes me a little when people move from ancient gear to much newer gear of another manufacturer, and then on come the rose tinted glasses as if the newer manufacturer is suddenly better
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Agreed!

Surely the small advantages these brands have over each other just come and go over time. Who knows who will have the 'best' technology available in a year.
 
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I sort of went the other way, I used to have Nikon equipment,D50, D200, D700 and D90. I sold it all, went cameraless for a while and now have bought some Canon gear.

In my limited experience, image quality wise, there isnt much in it between the D200/D90 and the 450D, however Im really struggling with the ergonomics of the canon. The buttons just dont seem in a logical place. The on/off button is just bizzare and trying to add Ex comp is really fiddly. Also the build quality of the canon doesnt feel close to any of the Nikons. Even the bottom end Nikons have great ergonomics and the buttons fall instantly to hand

Im getting tempted back to Nikon, but its early days yet, so Im going to give it a chance. I think Canon have a better range of lenses too, that was one of the reasons I changed.
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Precisely the reason I opted against the Canon alternative to my D3000. When handholding the body in Jessops, I felt that various buttons would get pressed accidentally as they are all lined up along the right-hand side whereas the Nikon has them on the left, out of the way of a supporting thumb. I also felt that the quality of the fingerwheels was going to be a real issue in the longterm so went with the Nikon and am very happy.
 
squishy said:
Agreed!

Surely the small advantages these brands have over each other just come and go over time. Who knows who will have the 'best' technology available in a year.
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It's also rather subjective. The button placement on Canon is more to my preference, and I don't particularly like the Nikon handgrip, nor the position of the jog wheel(s). On the contrary, I feel that entry level Nikon bodies are built more solidly than Canon's... not that any of that matters to me.
 
On the other hand, if Canon were to release the 5D3, and it was pretty much an upgraded 5D2 in a 7D body - that is, 30mp, class leading ISO, best AF, and running 8fps etc etc - then maybe you'd wish you hadn't ;)

I'd put money on the 5D2's replacement being that good. Can't say when though :D
 
HoppyUK said:
On the other hand, if Canon were to release the 5D3, and it was pretty much an upgraded 5D2 in a 7D body - that is, 30mp, class leading ISO, best AF, and running 8fps etc etc - then maybe you'd wish you hadn't ;)
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If it was 30mp I'd have to use one of the downsampling modes to create smaller RAW files :|

21mp with the 5D2 has pushed my storage and processing capabilities to the max.. and as I've said before, I've had to reduce the resolution of my 5D2 files to prepare them for 300dpi printing at 16x12".

21mp is lovely to have and offers awesome detail and cropping potential, but 30mp..?

I hope Canon would do what they've done with the G11, and drop the resolution (to say 18mp) to achieve even better high ISO. They could leave the highest mp sensor for the 1Ds mk IV.

A.
 
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I had the chance to switch after I got burgled, I switched from Canon to Nikon, I found the transition quite difficult but worth it I think now, I did go through a brief period where I regretted it a bit but not now. I still miss the Canon thumbwheel though sometimes. Everthing else I prefer the Nikon.
 
all very interesting,
but we have Nikons in the studio so familiar with them . the only downside I feel is the canons feel so much more comfortable in the hand .

I could always just use the studio cameras and keep the canons mmmmmmmm naaaaa :naughty:
 
squishy said:
Agreed!

Surely the small advantages these brands have over each other just come and go over time. Who knows who will have the 'best' technology available in a year.
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...Nikon

;)

Just kidding
 
Anorakus said:
If it was 30mp I'd have to use one of the downsampling modes to create smaller RAW files :|

21mp with the 5D2 has pushed my storage and processing capabilities to the max.. and as I've said before, I've had to reduce the resolution of my 5D2 files to prepare them for 300dpi printing at 16x12".

21mp is lovely to have and offers awesome detail and cropping potential, but 30mp..?

I hope Canon would do what they've done with the G11, and drop the resolution (to say 18mp) to achieve even better high ISO. They could leave the highest mp sensor for the 1Ds mk IV.

A.
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So you can afford to splash out on a 5D Mark II but you can't afford a sub-£100 1TB harddrive for storage, or a couple of hundred quid on a new computer processor...? Very strange. My old desktop pc handles 21mp Raw files fine and it hasn't been upgraded inthe last 4 years. It was hardly bleeding edge back then either.
 
It always amazes me just how many Canon and Nikon owners, even of the greatest and latest full frame pro cameras, seem to be unhappy with their gear - to the point where they take a significant financial hit swapping to the other "side." And then some of them even swap back to what they were previously unhappy with. :shrug:

Makes me glad I own Olympus. I don't have to constantly agonize over whether I've got the very best gear money can buy or whether I'm getting the best IQ possible, because I know I haven't and I'm not. Still thrilled with the handling though and more than happy with the pictures. Mind you, it's fortunate that my E-3 comes with such a great photographer as an optional accessory. And at least when I'm using digital Zuikos I know that I'm using the very best glass in any given price range, bar none. Well, there has to be some reason for using Olympus! :D
 
goldenlight said:
And at least when I'm using digital Zuikos I know that I'm using the very best glass in any given price range, bar none. Well, there has to be some reason for using Olympus! :D
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If Olympus had had a decent option available when I first went digital that's where I'd have gone :) Can you use the old zuiko's on the new digital bodies?
 
dod said:
If Olympus had had a decent option available when I first went digital that's where I'd have gone :) Can you use the old zuiko's on the new digital bodies?
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You can use the old Zuikos via an adapter, with manual focus of course, and either aperture priority or manual exposure. Must admit, though, that good as those old zuikos were most are not a patch on the digital Zuikos - mainly I suspect due to the different requirements of a smaller digital sensor.

In reality the E-3 does offer excellent IQ in most situations but where it does fail to match full frame in particular is in extreme situations requiring very high ISO or stretching DR to the limit. So I'm not surprised that wedding and sports specialists in particular opt for either Canon or Nikon full frame, but I am surprised by the apparent high numbers of users of this fantastic top end gear, as well as users of more mundane APS-C sensor size cameras, who appear not to be satisfied. I'm sure if I could afford to run another system alongside my E-3 I'd be delighted with either Nikon or Canon - which one I'd choose would depend entirely on which one handled best for me and, assuming I got that right and it was maintained in future bodies, couldn't imagine ever feeling the need to swap. I find any gear works best when you are entirely familiar with it. :)
 
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