Canon FF mirrorless...
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Even watching the official Canon USA videos (sales pitch) i am not feeling it for the body, however I am loving the lenses….they really show what it can be done with a new mount, still same 54mm and get F/2.0 zooms or F/1.2 auto focus. It also feels like a little wink to Nikon making a big deal out of their new 55mm mount and come out with a 28-70 F/4.0 zoom and say "this is how it's done".
I am also intrigue how the body do with say the 50/1.0 lens on it, using it's auto focus with adaptor. It should remove any of the focus breathing issues.
I am also intrigue how the body do with say the 50/1.0 lens on it, using it's auto focus with adaptor. It should remove any of the focus breathing issues.
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It's good it's just not that amazing because the iso would be through the roof (not a top performer there) and there's no ibis.... So bit of a pointless feature... Like crop 4k and eye af in afs and 3fps. Seems like a lot of headline specs not amounting to much.
Nikon z7 seems better.
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A hundred and fifty ?
35's maybe. I'll go and count the 50's... I may be some time...
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I wouldn't call -6 Ev a "feature", just like I don't call shooting a 512,000 ISO a feature, when things are that extreme…it tends to fall apart somewhat.
This release reinforce what I think Canon, they are all about their lenses and it shows it seems they put more effort into their lenses than their body yet again. In a few generations the body would be "good" but the lenses at that point would be unbelievable, and Nikon will still be using F1.8 primes. I always argued it is easier to fix with a single body if that is the only thing that is missing.
Right now, the EOS R is still very new, body isn't on par for what i need so I will pass but the lenses have got off to an amazing start, the 28-70 might be expensive but if it replaces your 35 prime and a 50mm prime, then will look quite reasonable.
They need to put more effort, money and man power to work on their sensor, AF and IBIS though.
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I find that when I come home and plug my camera into my pc by the time I've finished processing and messing about with the pictures the battery is charged
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Hmm... when is Canon going to ship this to end user?
Errr but Nikon's unicorn is a 0.95. not 1.8. they're also making an f1.2 50 so I'm not sure you're right there.
Canon can do a lot by changing body / sensor as you say but they haven't, not even with this release. Same old Canon.
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It's unicorn is a manual lens.
Canon can probably make a 50/1.0 auto focus if they want…wait, they already have, 20 years ago
Let's not getting into fan boy territory here, the point is the Canon lens line up is much stronger out of the gate and it is clear to me where their focus went.
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It's unicorn is a manual lens.
Canon can probably make a 50/1.0 auto focus if they want…wait, they already have, 20 years ago
Do you think its anywhere near as good as a modern lens?
So you ignored that Nikon's delivering a 50 1.2 af?
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Sorry i missed that, but 28-70/2.0, come on, where did that come from !
The AF in the 50/1.0 might not be as good in modern lenses, but it will still be better than a manual focus lens, right?
Meh, not that great, it's about time. Sigma's been doing a lot of interesting stuff over the past few years so it's about time Canikon made some bold statements.
Yup, I think sigma have released the bravest optics out of anyone recently.
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Is that what he said?
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(I forgot about the 24-35/2.0)
Sharpest? Yes.
Largest? Certainly
Best value for money? Definitely.
Bravest? I dunno.
50/1.0 AF is brave, 85/1.2 is brave, 200/1.8 is brave. There isn't anything brave about a 85/1.4 IMO.
How do you define brave in lens design?
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I said "who saw that coming?"
he said "is it all that special?"
So….I took "its not that special" as in something normal, like expected…?
Too far a conclusion?
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Nice pun RaymondIt's unicorn is a manual lens.
Canon can probably make a 50/1.0 auto focus if they want…wait, they already have, 20 years ago
Let's not getting into fan boy territory here, the point is the Canon lens line up is much stronger out of the gate and it is clear to me where their focus went.
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Messing about,I find that when I come home and plug my camera into my pc by the time I've finished processing and messing about with the pictures the battery is charged
you mean enhancing your shots to professional level surely ,Need to read up a bit more about sigma lenses, seems you only remember the 85 1.4
14mm 1.8
16mm 1.4
20 1.4
18-35 1.8
50-100 1.8
135 1.8
105 1.4
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If you don't mind abused, used and older tech - as low as £200-300 for the likes of 1Ds mkII or D700 or even D3! That's only 12-16MP and ISO from max 1600 but that will cover a wedding just fine.
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Some of those are cropped….which I pay no attention to.
The reason I picked 85/1.4 is not because of the 85mm, more of the 1.4 aperture, the point is…1.4 is the widest that they made. That's my point.
(yes I know FULL WELL they made a 20/1.4 which Canon never made, I have one)
Canon hasn't made any of the above.
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Why would they want to lose 20MP?
It's a completely different camera and I don't think there's any comparison to be made.
How so? It's more a 6d mirror less than a high MP 5dsr replacement.
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I dunno why i am arguing, I like Sigma lenses, I think they are very innovative, I just think "brave" is the wrong word. lol
Sigma has been doing a lot of interesting things with modern optics, some would prefer if the lenses were smaller and slower, but they are being 'brave' and taking risks by offering lenses at apertures that others aren't year on year pretty much. It seems to be paying off.
It's a discussion, not argument.
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Agreed.
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105mm f1.4 hehe
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No it isn’t.
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Yep, I'll probably move into EOS R + 24-105mm RF + 50mm 1.2 RF... prior to that I'll get moving some of my gear including my 5DsR
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Replace which primes! If you already have them the Canon EF 35mm f2 IS USM = £499 and Canon EF 50mm f1.8 STM = £98! Add the Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R for £100.
I doubt you or anyone else who regularly use F1.4 and f1.2 primes would be using this lens in preference, especially at £3,049.00.
Now you may say that the lenses above are not on the new mount yet, well the Canon RF 35mm f1.8 IS Macro STM = £519 and Canon RF 50mm f1.2L USM is at an eye watering £2,349,
so together are £2868. Which is better, slightly larger range in one lens but slower apertures or two primes with faster max apertures! 
And compare the Canon RF 50mm f1.2L USM price,£2,349, to the EF version below.
If you have EF lenses such as :-
Canon EF 35mm f1.4 L II USM = £1648
Canon EF 50mm f1.4 USM = £299
Canon EF 50mm f1.2L USM = £1227
Then add the Canon Mount Adapter EF-EOS R for £100 to continue to use the lenses you may have at wider apertures than the 28-70mm f2 R lens. I don't see the point of the 28-70mm f2 R lens full stop, nevermind at the price they are asking for anyone who wants those wider apertures.
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Nope, will be keeping my 5Dsr and adding a 5DIV or 1Dx2 to it soon I think.
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