Canon EOS R Series Cameras

LC2 said:
Good point on the STM AF motor.
I can't find the tamron you mention in EF mount (and of course Canon are doing their utmost to prevent FF RF lenses being produced/sold).
To be honest, the R6ii is really a second camera/system as I prefer the handling of my Fuji X-T cameras but wanted to get some usage out of my old EF lenses. There is no denying that the FF sensor in the Canon is better in low light than the Fujis crops.
The new similar Focal Length RF L glass is all quite/very heavy (and spendy), hence pondering whether the new non L, RF 28-70 would be a step up from the old 24-70 without too much outlay, or whether I'd be better off just sticking with my old mk2 EF L 24-70 (+ my 50 & 85mm f/1.8 ef lenses).
As I primarily shoot people, I don't have your concern over the edge to edge sharpness.
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I bought my Tamron 35mm second hand , if I remember correctly it was £500 from WEX , it’s excellent really sharp and I just couldn’t see any reason to get the RF equivalent
 
LCPete said:
I bought my Tamron 35mm second hand , if I remember correctly it was £500 from WEX , it’s excellent really sharp and I just couldn’t see any reason to get the RF equivalent
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Well tamron doesn't do massive distortion nor digital corrections so you are clearly missing out on canon specials here

If you are doing video then it sort of starts working against you a little bit as the only way to remove vignette is fully manual in post
 
andrewc said:
Not sure if anyone else has noticed, but Canon now have the R1 available on the Test the Kit service. I've got it for a weekend in early September.
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For what I need for events and similar it’s perfect. Wouldn’t go back. Enjoy the test.
 
Phil V said:
It’d be interesting to see the RF lens takeup. As EF lenses work so perfectly the reason to upgrade would be outliers rather than the norm.

And yet I upgraded some (not all). And I’m hovering over the purchase of the 70-200 f4 just for the weight saving. My current 2.8L must be coming up for 30 yrs old and still works brilliantly, but I reckon I’ve had my moneys worth, bought it 2nd hand in the early 2000’s
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One of my favorites is the L 100-300; how old must that be!
 
Still using my 70-200 F4 , can’t remember exactly when I got it but bought it to use with my 350D
I just never wanted to change it for something else and still use it
I have considered getting the RF version but then I wouldn’t be able to use it on my second body a 6D mk 2
 
stickytape said:
One of my favorites is the L 100-300; how old must that be!
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Is that the push pull barrel one or was that the 28-300? I forget - seems yonks ago and it was

As ive said before here - I still use the 70-200 F4L on my remotes (now the focus mechanism has failed). Still pin sharp after 20 years
 
A_S said:
Is that the push pull barrel one or was that the 28-300? I forget - seems yonks ago and it was

As ive said before here - I still use the 70-200 F4L on my remotes (now the focus mechanism has failed). Still pin sharp after 20 years
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That's the push pull one - I'll get some photos of it and some photos I have taken with it and put it up sometime this week. It's not a bad lens at all!
 
I'm hoping to be in a position soon to buy an R5mkii. I've done all the research and the one concerning factor has been the dynamic range. Apologies if this has already been raised in this thread.

The way I see it though is that the DR on the mkii isn't bad, it's just not quite as good as the mki and only by a small margin. The mkii's DR is very similar to the 5Div, which I own and that's very good. According to the charts, it's slightly better (if that's the right word) than the Z8.

I've been fortunate to be able to get myself into the position financially to buy the R5ii but I want to get it right. I've considered the mki, as obviously, you can get them used relatively cheaply now but it doesn't have pre capture.

Just wondering though what the fuss has been (in some places) about the mkii's DR.

EDIT:- just to add, I expose to the right and I don't pixel peep but I do sometimes find myself cropping.
 
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Dale. said:
I'm hoping to be in a position soon to buy an R5mkii. I've done all the research and the one concerning factor has been the dynamic range. Apologies if this has already been raised in this thread.

The way I see it though is that the DR on the mkii isn't bad, it's just not quite as good as the mki and only by a small margin. The mkii's DR is very similar to the 5Div, which I own and that's very good. According to the charts, it's slightly better (if that's the right word) than the Z8.

I've been fortunate to be able to get myself into the position financially to buy the R5ii but I want to get it right. I've considered the mki, as obviously, you can get them used relatively cheaply now but it doesn't have pre capture.

Just wondering though what the fuss has been (in some places) about the mkii's DR.

EDIT:- just to add, I expose to the right and I don't pixel peep but I do sometimes find myself cropping.
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I think the issue is the expectation is that every new model should improve over the previous version. However in a lot of cases you start to run into the law of diminishing returns. Hope you enjoy your new camera
 
taxboy said:
I think the issue is the expectation is that every new model should improve over the previous version. However in a lot of cases you start to run into the law of diminishing returns. Hope you enjoy your new camera
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Yes, that's what I was thinking too.
 
taxboy said:
I think the issue is the expectation is that every new model should improve over the previous version. However in a lot of cases you start to run into the law of diminishing returns. Hope you enjoy your new camera
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And also a lot of reviews must find something. Some are highly scientific with graphs and measurements showing theoretical difference the majority of users will never experience in practice (of course some users will experience it) and others just need to talk about something to make their videos long enough and start mentioning things that are of lesser importance to the majority and some want to bring in some 'negatives' to demonstrate they aren't biased or fanboys...
 
Dale. said:
I'm hoping to be in a position soon to buy an R5mkii. I've done all the research and the one concerning factor has been the dynamic range. Apologies if this has already been raised in this thread.

The way I see it though is that the DR on the mkii isn't bad, it's just not quite as good as the mki and only by a small margin. The mkii's DR is very similar to the 5Div, which I own and that's very good. According to the charts, it's slightly better (if that's the right word) than the Z8.

I've been fortunate to be able to get myself into the position financially to buy the R5ii but I want to get it right. I've considered the mki, as obviously, you can get them used relatively cheaply now but it doesn't have pre capture.

Just wondering though what the fuss has been (in some places) about the mkii's DR.

EDIT:- just to add, I expose to the right and I don't pixel peep but I do sometimes find myself cropping.
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its worth seeking out knowledgeable reviews but as far as I have read, though I don’t have a MK2 to compare, the difference is very slight and you probably won’t notice
Apparently the autofocus is improved over the mk 1
I have the MK 1 and am completely happy with it image quality is really good and the autofocus is great for everything that I do , wildlife and macro
If I was getting a new camera though I would go for the mk2 just for the precapture feature
 
I have very few concerns now about the DR on the R5ii ................ all being well, I will be ordering in the next 2 weeks. (y)
 
I recently bought the mark ii and can’t say I’ve noticed a significant difference in DR over the mark i. The af imo is definitely improved though, it seems to acquire focus very quickly and then it sticks to the subject better. Unfortunately I now need to upgrade my ageing iMac, as the software I use won’t process the raw files from the R5 ii ! I’m sure you’ll enjoy your new camera. Planning on selling my mark i soon.
 
Has anyone got both a R1 and an R5 mk2?

I've moved from a 1Dx 2 series mirror to the R5 mk 2 but I'm regretting not going for the 1 series body and am thinking of trading up.

Trouble is I'll be taking a big hit on the R5 mk2, WEX are only offering me £2450, and I can't decide whether I should just buy the battery grip!!

Comments appreciated!!

Thanks, George.
 
The R1 is available on the Canon 48 hour test drive site George if you want to try it yourself.
 
Neil. said:
The R1 is available on the Canon 48 hour test drive site George if you want to try it yourself.
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Yes thanks, I'd forgotten about that!! May go that route first!
 
George said:
Has anyone got both a R1 and an R5 mk2?

I've moved from a 1Dx 2 series mirror to the R5 mk 2 but I'm regretting not going for the 1 series body and am thinking of trading up.

Trouble is I'll be taking a big hit on the R5 mk2, WEX are only offering me £2450, and I can't decide whether I should just buy the battery grip!!

Comments appreciated!!

Thanks, George.
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Buy the grip

Massive difference between 45 and 24mp. I presume you knew that and picked the camera on merit not just nostalgic feelings
 
Yea, don't really need 45mp but it's been nice to have for some crops of wildlife, however the AF has been slightly disappointing and I believe the system on the R1 is better...but how much?

Think I'll go for a quick test drive and see how it performs and most importantly whether I can see any difference from the mk2.

Thanks for the input as ever!
 
George said:
Yea, don't really need 45mp but it's been nice to have for some crops of wildlife, however the AF has been slightly disappointing and I believe the system on the R1 is better...but how much?

Think I'll go for a quick test drive and see how it performs and most importantly whether I can see any difference from the mk2.

Thanks for the input as ever!
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I agree. I moved from R5M1 to R1 and have not missed the extra pixels. As a tool in my hand I do much prefer the R1 than the R5M1 plus battery grip. Go try R5M2 and R1 for yourself, it's going to depend on what you shoot and what you need. Probably the R5M2 is the best alrounder, the R1 is more specialist for events and sports I guess.
 
It's mainly for wildlife I'd be using it for, I've been slightly disappointed in the R52 losing tracking albeit in difficult situations and sometimes not picking up eyes.

I'll need to find some really active cats or equivalent to try the R1 on.....also plenty of still randy pigeons about which would be quite good............:banana:...and the extra phase detection points.

Also the battery life in the R5 isn't great but the grip would solve that largely....however I did have one once on a 7D and it's certainly not the same "feel" as the internal one.y
 
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George said:
It's mainly for wildlife I'd be using it for, I've been slightly disappointed in the R52 losing tracking albeit in difficult situations and sometimes not picking up eyes.

I'll need to find some really active cats or equivalent to try the R1 on.....also plenty of still randy pigeons about which would be quite good............:banana:...and the extra phase detection points.

Also the battery life in the R5 isn't great but the grip would solve that largely....however I did have one once on a 7D and it's certainly not the same "feel" as the internal one.y
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I have a 7Dii, R7, Sony A6600, Sony NEX5R, and friend of mine has the R5mki and its AF is pretty damn good. However, it depends what you shoot, location, size of subject, background, light available etc, etc.
What ever system I have tried the more contrast on the subject to the background makes so much difference. I have chatted to a few Sony A1, A9 users and the ability to dial in different types of animal really helps lock on to the subject.
My R7, and my friends R5Mki some times pick up ears, or spots / dark patches on animal if the is not enough contrast on the eye head area of the animal.
Now compare that to my 7Dii and the keeper rate is very low compared to my R7 depending what AF points I have enabled, or AF area selected. Strangely enough I prefer my 7Dii for air shows that my R7 !
 
George said:
It's mainly for wildlife I'd be using it for, I've been slightly disappointed in the R52 losing tracking albeit in difficult situations and sometimes not picking up eyes.

I'll need to find some really active cats or equivalent to try the R1 on.....also plenty of still randy pigeons about which would be quite good............:banana:...and the extra phase detection points.

Also the battery life in the R5 isn't great but the grip would solve that largely....however I did have one once on a 7D and it's certainly not the same "feel" as the internal one.y
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I have found that the eye tracking on my R5 is really good but not foolproof, I notice you have Cheetahs in you sig for those it doesn’t pick up the eyes also Elephants, for other cats like Lions it works very well
I have 2 buttons set for focus one for eyes and the other normal single target so can switch between the two depending on subject
 
Well, I've done it, finally tipped the balance this morning and I now have the funds for an R5ii + adapter.

The dilemma I have though, is to maybe go for the 24-105 f4L kit, which will mean a bit more saving .......... or just go for the body and EF-RF adapter now and not get the lens. I can save a considerable amount of money by getting the kit compared to buying them seperately.

I already have a Sigma 24-105 EF, beautiful lens and built like a tank. It works a dream on my 5Div but I'm thinking it may not play well (if at all) on the R5ii, adapted.

Already owning the Sigma and then getting thr RF 24-105 feels a bit indulgent though, especially if the Sigma does actually play nice on the R5ii.

It's not lost on me, it's nice dilemma to have. I keep trying to justify it and Wifey even said to me last night, that if I were a smoker, I could smoke the cost of an R5ii in a year. I don't smoke and as she said 'I may as well spend it on something'. She's a keeper. :LOL:

So, kit or not, bearing in mind the Sigma may play nice on the R5ii ?

ta.
 
Dale. said:
I already have a Sigma 24-105 EF, beautiful lens and built like a tank. It works a dream on my 5Div but I'm thinking it may not play well (if at all) on the R5ii, adapted.
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I can’t think of any reason the Sigma wouldn’t work perfectly, my 35mm Art and 150-600, and an ancient Tamron 17-35 all work perfectly.
 
Dale. said:
Well, I've done it, finally tipped the balance this morning and I now have the funds for an R5ii + adapter.

The dilemma I have though, is to maybe go for the 24-105 f4L kit, which will mean a bit more saving .......... or just go for the body and EF-RF adapter now and not get the lens. I can save a considerable amount of money by getting the kit compared to buying them seperately.

I already have a Sigma 24-105 EF, beautiful lens and built like a tank. It works a dream on my 5Div but I'm thinking it may not play well (if at all) on the R5ii, adapted.

Already owning the Sigma and then getting thr RF 24-105 feels a bit indulgent though, especially if the Sigma does actually play nice on the R5ii.

It's not lost on me, it's nice dilemma to have. I keep trying to justify it and Wifey even said to me last night, that if I were a smoker, I could smoke the cost of an R5ii in a year. I don't smoke and as she said 'I may as well spend it on something'. She's a keeper. :LOL:

So, kit or not, bearing in mind the Sigma may play nice on the R5ii ?

ta.
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The Sigma 150-600 C on the R7 suffered with pulsing, and I think is manly because the AF is very aggressive coupled wit a slow sensor which is not a great combination.
However, the R5rii should be OK and the sigma's will work fine with he adapter. They may not be as snappy and quick as RF lens, however is really does depend what you shoot.
 
Dale. said:
Well, I've done it, finally tipped the balance this morning and I now have the funds for an R5ii + adapter.

The dilemma I have though, is to maybe go for the 24-105 f4L kit, which will mean a bit more saving .......... or just go for the body and EF-RF adapter now and not get the lens. I can save a considerable amount of money by getting the kit compared to buying them seperately.

I already have a Sigma 24-105 EF, beautiful lens and built like a tank. It works a dream on my 5Div but I'm thinking it may not play well (if at all) on the R5ii, adapted.

Already owning the Sigma and then getting thr RF 24-105 feels a bit indulgent though, especially if the Sigma does actually play nice on the R5ii.

It's not lost on me, it's nice dilemma to have. I keep trying to justify it and Wifey even said to me last night, that if I were a smoker, I could smoke the cost of an R5ii in a year. I don't smoke and as she said 'I may as well spend it on something'. She's a keeper. :LOL:

So, kit or not, bearing in mind the Sigma may play nice on the R5ii ?

ta.
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Hi as I said above, I may well be selling my R5 mk2 with quite a few extras so if you're interested you could perhaps consider that to both of our benefit?

I'll probably decide by the end of next week and will try to sell it first on the forum.
 
Phil V said:
I can’t think of any reason the Sigma wouldn’t work perfectly, my 35mm Art and 150-600, and an ancient Tamron 17-35 all work perfectly.
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Tysonator said:
The Sigma 150-600 C on the R7 suffered with pulsing, and I think is manly because the AF is very aggressive coupled wit a slow sensor which is not a great combination.
However, the R5rii should be OK and the sigma's will work fine with he adapter. They may not be as snappy and quick as RF lens, however is really does depend what you shoot.
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Thanks for that. (y)

I thought there was a thing where Canon weren't 'allowing 3rd party lenses on RF bodies? I've read recently though that it isn't the case now and Canon have 'opned' the RF mount up.



George said:
Hi as I said above, I may well be selling my R5 mk2 with quite a few extras so if you're interested you could perhaps consider that to both of our benefit?

I'll probably decide by the end of next week and will try to sell it first on the forum.
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I will keep an eye on The Classifieds, if I haven't bought by then.
 
Dale. said:
Thanks for that. (y)

I thought there was a thing where Canon weren't 'allowing 3rd party lenses on RF bodies? I've read recently though that it isn't the case now and Canon have 'opned' the RF mount up.






I will keep an eye on The Classifieds, if I haven't bought by then.
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That’s possibly a misunderstanding
Canon haven’t licences the RG amount to 3rd parties (though are allowing RF-S)
But EF lenses work perfectly well via the adaptor, and that includes 3rd party EF lenses
 
Phil V said:
That’s possibly a misunderstanding
Canon haven’t licences the RG amount to 3rd parties (though are allowing RF-S)
But EF lenses work perfectly well via the adaptor, and that includes 3rd party EF lenses
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Ah cool, thanks. I had misunderstood it as meaning EF too.

All my glass is currently EF and works fine on my R7, via the adapter. (y)
 
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@Dale. EF to RF adapter for now every day of the week. All my canon and sigma art lens work as well if not better with the adapter. Try yours and see if you need any RF lenses. I’ve posted about this many times and still have only two RF lenses.
 
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TimHughes said:
@Dale. EF to RF adapter for now every day of the week. All my canon and sigma art lens work as well if not better with the adapter. Try yours and see if you need any RF lenses. I’ve posted about this many times and still have only two RF lenses.
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Awesome, thank you. (y)
 
Dale. said:
Well, I've done it, finally tipped the balance this morning and I now have the funds for an R5ii + adapter.

The dilemma I have though, is to maybe go for the 24-105 f4L kit
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This camera specs will be absolutely wasted with a basic and outdated megazoom lens like this. It is not likely to resolve any more than basic 20mp R6 outside of dead centre. Why spend the money then? 45MP really needs primes to be completely honest.
 
LongLensPhotography said:
This camera specs will be absolutely wasted with a basic and outdated megazoom lens like this. It is not likely to resolve any more than basic 20mp R6 outside of dead centre. Why spend the money then? 45MP really needs primes to be completely honest.
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I have this covered, I do have some very nice EF L glass, including 2 primes. I realise the Sigma may not get the best out of the sensor but my EF glass should. My 100-400L mkii works a dream on the R7, the detail that resolves from that sensor is fantastic, I've probably taken some of my crispest shots ever with that combo.

Once I get the camera, I can then concentrate on new RF glass, I've probably bought my last EF or Sigma lens, although I won't be in the market for lenses for some time after the body purchase.
 
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