Canon EOS R Series Cameras

I'm aware.. it does not solve my issue.
Well that function is literally designed to switch it off. If it’s still constantly on, then maybe you have the AF on continually too which would activate it?
 
Well that function is literally designed to switch it off. If it’s still constantly on, then maybe you have the AF on continually too which would activate it?

I don’t think that option is available for IS lenses. It is quite conceivable that I am doing something wrong.
 
Well that function is literally designed to switch it off. If it’s still constantly on, then maybe you have the AF on continually too which would activate it?
Appreciate the assistance, but no Phil, I need not touch any camera button. Lens IS activates, unless deactivated on the lens, as soon as the camera is turned on; then stays activated. Nostromo seems to experience this too.
 
Well Fixation still have my camera and lens for repair almost 7 weeks later. They are having IT issues apparently. The customer service has been a joke, one minute being told my lens was being repaired then it is waiting for parts along with my R7. Thoroughly brassed off. I've got a couple of events this month and I'm sorely tempted to buy a second hand body.
 
Appreciate the assistance, but no Phil, I need not touch any camera button. Lens IS activates, unless deactivated on the lens, as soon as the camera is turned on; then stays activated. Nostromo seems to experience this too.
I completely understood your query, and at no point did I suggest you touched any camera button. :)
My tip was to go to the settings and check some things were turned off.
For clarification I believe the default is what you’re experiencing, and that it’s not a fault.

Just to add: I’d always assumed mine wasn’t doing that, but I’ve just had a listen and it is.
Also having gone through the menu to switch it off (manual suggests settings are shared between digital and lens IS) it seems it’s still on.

In my defence I have tinnitus and can only hear the IS if I hold the legend to my ear.

Hope that helps a bit. But the answer is No apparently, whilst you appear to be able to switch it off, it comes on anyway.
 
Well Fixation still have my camera and lens for repair almost 7 weeks later. They are having IT issues apparently.
I thought I heard about a ransomware attack on Fixation a wee while back - but I could easily be mistaken
 
That would make some sense. However it doesn't excuse the really poor level of service. If I'd known about these delays a few weeks ago when I kept having faith they would be repaired, then maybe I could have got them repaired elsewhere. Now I'm left not knowing when I'll get my kit back.
 
Finally some good luck for me for a change. Got a phone call on Friday to say the R7 has turned up at WEX repaired. Time to get ready for RIAT.

I've also just picked up a used EF 400mm f5.6 USM. Does anyone here have experience of this combo?
 
Finally some good luck for me for a change. Got a phone call on Friday to say the R7 has turned up at WEX repaired. Time to get ready for RIAT.

I've also just picked up a used EF 400mm f5.6 USM. Does anyone here have experience of this combo?
I don’t have any experience of your combo but I used to have the same lens and regretted selling it. The results from it were very good and the size & weight made it easy to handle. I’ve also used EF glass on R bodies without any issues, I think you’ve every reason to be optimistic about the combination. Riat should be a great opportunity to put it through it paces, off there myself for the weekend.
 
Thanks Neil. I already have an EF 100-400 MkII, so I'm keen on this due to the weight and IQ. And obviously the displays at RIAT usually require 400mm +.
 
Finally some good luck for me for a change. Got a phone call on Friday to say the R7 has turned up at WEX repaired. Time to get ready for RIAT.

I've also just picked up a used EF 400mm f5.6 USM. Does anyone here have experience of this combo?

I have this combo, works fine.
 
Finally some good luck for me for a change. Got a phone call on Friday to say the R7 has turned up at WEX repaired. Time to get ready for RIAT.

I've also just picked up a used EF 400mm f5.6 USM. Does anyone here have experience of this combo?
I used to use this lens with the R7 despite its age it's pretty sharp and as you say lighter than the EF 100-400, which I replaced mine with.

Without checking it might be one of those lenses that doesn't allow the full H+ frame rate but that's not likely to be an issue. Good luck at RIAT - it looks like it could be hot
 
New toy time folks, at least I feel as I can now join in this section of the forum. It's taken me a while to make my mind up what to get, but overall I think I will be very happy with my purchase, now just to get out and use it. My trusty old 70D will be handed down to my son , and my 16 year EOS450D that is still working perfectly well can now have a happy retirement. Don't ever say that I don't get my moneys worth out of my equipment. !

20250712_180649 by Doug, on Flickr
 
New toy time folks, at least I feel as I can now join in this section of the forum. It's taken me a while to make my mind up what to get, but overall I think I will be very happy with my purchase, now just to get out and use it. My trusty old 70D will be handed down to my son , and my 16 year EOS450D that is still working perfectly well can now have a happy retirement. Don't ever say that I don't get my moneys worth out of my equipment. !

20250712_180649 by Doug, on Flickr
enjoy!
 
New toy time folks, at least I feel as I can now join in this section of the forum. It's taken me a while to make my mind up what to get, but overall I think I will be very happy with my purchase, now just to get out and use it. My trusty old 70D will be handed down to my son , and my 16 year EOS450D that is still working perfectly well can now have a happy retirement. Don't ever say that I don't get my moneys worth out of my equipment. !

20250712_180649 by Doug, on Flickr
Nice. I’m hoping to be joining you in the R club soon. What models were your choosing between? I’m debating between a new R6 MkII or a used R5 mk1.
 
Nice. I’m hoping to be joining you in the R club soon. What models were your choosing between? I’m debating between a new R6 MkII or a used R5 mk1.
I was seriously looking at the R5mkii but I don't really need 45mp and the extra spec, plus the extra cost! I know there is a R6mkiii due in the near future but again felt that for the price the R6mkii is very good value for money & is a marked jump in spec from my 70d. I did also consider the R7 but really wanted full frame. It's an itch I've been wanting to scratch for some time. I did also mull over a Nikon (wash my mouth out) Z8 but thought the complete change in systems was too much hassle and again I don't really need the spec, plus it's a lot bigger.
 
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Which Exp.Sim are you using?
None, Exp.Sim or Exp.Sim+DOF?
I've been using Exp.Sim, but thought I might give Exp.Sim+DOF a try.
 
Nice. I’m hoping to be joining you in the R club soon. What models were your choosing between? I’m debating between a new R6 MkII or a used R5 mk1.

If you are undecided, as I usually do, I recommend a free test Test drive. 48 hour free test (longer at bank holidays) although you do have to pay a refundable deposit. Only you can decide what is best for you. Whatever you choose it will be a big step up from your previous cameras.
 
Nice. I’m hoping to be joining you in the R club soon. What models were your choosing between? I’m debating between a new R6 MkII or a used R5 mk1.

Depends what you want to do with it, I have both, and the improved customisation options for autofocus are really impressive on the R6 Mk2, much more advanced than the R5 mk1. In terms of image quality, and autofocus performance I don't find there to be a dicernable difference and really couldn't care less what body I have on what lens, as they both perform comparativly.

The only time I'd activly choose the R6 over the R5 is to put on my 100-500 as I feel I get better results at higher ISO more down to the fact its a smaller sensor probably, but thats just a "gut feel" and "logical" thing to do rather than having any concrete evidance.
 
If you are undecided, as I usually do, I recommend a free test Test drive. 48 hour free test (longer at bank holidays) although you do have to pay a refundable deposit. Only you can decide what is best for you. Whatever you choose it will be a big step up from your previous cameras.
Good idea on the test drive, I’d forgotten about that. Whichever of the R models I end up getting, it’ll be replacing a 5D mk3 which I’ve had for 12 years, so yes definitely a big change.
 
In case anyone gives a tinker's curse - slew of firmware upgrades for EOS R-series cameras recently. Just applied 1.6.0 to my R6ii but not taken it for a spin yet.
 
In case anyone gives a tinker's curse - slew of firmware upgrades for EOS R-series cameras recently. Just applied 1.6.0 to my R6ii but not taken it for a spin yet.

I’m intrigued by the flash exposure simulation, whether it works in off camera scenarios or whether it’s just for on cam flash, and indeed exactly what it does. Might save a bit of time in some set ups is the hope, anyway. It’s been out a while now and not seeing any issues with the r6ii so might give it a spin later in the week.

Not sure what deal is with the password / PIN code feature… maybe try and reduce the resale value of stolen gear? Otherwise seems a bit pointless
 
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Not sure what deal is with the password / PIN code feature… maybe try and reduce the resale value of stolen gear? Otherwise seems a bit pointless
Just more eu compliance red tape. I doubt many will actually use it. It needs to be like instant, ie. Fingerprint on shutter button, etc. particularly if you work in news where every second might count

And then there is still no protection for lenses that can be a lot more expensive
 
Just more eu compliance red tape. I doubt many will actually use it. It needs to be like instant, ie. Fingerprint on shutter button, etc. particularly if you work in news where every second might count

And then there is still no protection for lenses that can be a lot more expensive

Exactly, but also the thought that there could be some kind of activation lockout, “drm” or such other “pairing” features on cameras and lenses make me shudder. I want my camera and lenses to just work. Canon aren’t very good at software, lets be honest…, can you imagine the palaver trying to get your camera activated, lenses moved, how crappy and convoluted the process will be etc… urgh.

It will be like “you can only reassign a new lens to a different camera body on the 3rd full moon of the year, when the owl in the pink sweater is sitting in the 4th tree at the 11th hour of dusk.”
 
I won’t be updating the firmware this time either, really don’t want the hassle of passwords when I just want to take a picture
Sometimes you only have moments to get the shot with wildlife
 
I won’t be updating the firmware this time either, really don’t want the hassle of passwords when I just want to take a picture
Sometimes you only have moments to get the shot with wildlife

Apparently you can turn it off, but yeah, I agree. I haven’t seen it on an actual camera working but some YouTube vids say it asks for a password on wake up too. What a useless flawed feature.
 
Exactly, but also the thought that there could be some kind of activation lockout, “drm” or such other “pairing” features on cameras and lenses make me shudder. I want my camera and lenses to just work. Canon aren’t very good at software, lets be honest…, can you imagine the palaver trying to get your camera activated, lenses moved, how crappy and convoluted the process will be etc… urgh.

It will be like “you can only reassign a new lens to a different camera body on the 3rd full moon of the year, when the owl in the pink sweater is sitting in the 4th tree at the 11th hour of dusk.”
Or worse - remote kill switch, activation server, rental fees. The big word in the businesses right now is subscription. I don't trust canon, nor sony for that matter
 
Apparently you can turn it off, but yeah, I agree. I haven’t seen it on an actual camera working but some YouTube vids say it asks for a password on wake up too. What a useless flawed feature.

How can you say to is a “useless, flawed feature” when you have NOT seen it working, have NOT used it yourself, and you don’t even know what its purpose is.
 
The EU's RED directive requiring minimal cyber protection for internet connected devices does have some sense. There are many bad actors out there and AI is making them more efficient. So I agree we need something when connected to the internet, and as @LongLensPhotography suggested finger print recognition on the shutter button would be good.

For normal shooting, not connected to the internet, having to tap in a password on the screen would be a big drawback and I'm glad it can be deactivated for that.
 
How can you say to is a “useless, flawed feature” when you have NOT seen it working, have NOT used it yourself, and you don’t even know what its purpose is.

That’s an excellent question, thanks for asking.

Fundamentally, this is possible by using a combination of skills some humans have, which to coin a couple of phrases are called “abstract thought” and “prior knowledge.”

Let me give you an example. Let’s say I have a cactus, the really thorny kind and you want to borrow it - to shove right up your own rectum. Now, I’ve never seen anyone do this, and I don’t know what the purpose would be, but because I know cactuses are sharp and bums are delicate, I feel fairly confident it wouldn’t be a great idea - for you or for my cactus.

Now, back to cameras. I know how PIN codes work on phones, bank cards, padlocks, etc. They’re a method of authentication: a way to let someone with the right secret access a thing. A padlock on my shed makes it harder to get in quickly, but it makes it more secure. That’s likely the reason it’s been applied to the camera. However, a camera is something you might need to access quickly. If you have to type a code on the screen using a clunky UI and the camera button layout isn’t optimised for data entry it might make using the camera more difficult in the moment. If just going to sleep invokes the password screen, then something already poorly implemented becomes even worse.

So how could they make it better? Biometrics? Auto-authentication if you’ve got the app on your phone and are nearby? Yep. But that’s not where we are.

So pulling all that together, that’s how I’ve been able to conclude that the feature is flawed and useless without installing it yet on my camera. I might be wrong and if I am, I’ll get back to you, walking awkwardly, with my cactus nowhere to be seen.
 
That’s an excellent question, thanks for asking.

Fundamentally, this is possible by using a combination of skills some humans have, which to coin a couple of phrases are called “abstract thought” and “prior knowledge.”

Let me give you an example. Let’s say I have a cactus, the really thorny kind and you want to borrow it - to shove right up your own rectum. Now, I’ve never seen anyone do this, and I don’t know what the purpose would be, but because I know cactuses are sharp and bums are delicate, I feel fairly confident it wouldn’t be a great idea - for you or for my cactus.

Now, back to cameras. I know how PIN codes work on phones, bank cards, padlocks, etc. They’re a method of authentication: a way to let someone with the right secret access a thing. A padlock on my shed makes it harder to get in quickly, but it makes it more secure. That’s likely the reason it’s been applied to the camera. However, a camera is something you might need to access quickly. If you have to type a code on the screen using a clunky UI and the camera button layout isn’t optimised for data entry it might make using the camera more difficult in the moment. If just going to sleep invokes the password screen, then something already poorly implemented becomes even worse.

So how could they make it better? Biometrics? Auto-authentication if you’ve got the app on your phone and are nearby? Yep. But that’s not where we are.

So pulling all that together, that’s how I’ve been able to conclude that the feature is flawed and useless without installing it yet on my camera. I might be wrong and if I am, I’ll get back to you, walking awkwardly, with my cactus nowhere to be seen.
I believe the reason for the feature is driven by compliance with the EU RED directive as I posted above.
 
That’s an excellent question, thanks for asking.

Fundamentally, this is possible by using a combination of skills some humans have, which to coin a couple of phrases are called “abstract thought” and “prior knowledge.”

Let me give you an example. Let’s say I have a cactus, the really thorny kind and you want to borrow it - to shove right up your own rectum. Now, I’ve never seen anyone do this, and I don’t know what the purpose would be, but because I know cactuses are sharp and bums are delicate, I feel fairly confident it wouldn’t be a great idea - for you or for my cactus.

Now, back to cameras. I know how PIN codes work on phones, bank cards, padlocks, etc. They’re a method of authentication: a way to let someone with the right secret access a thing. A padlock on my shed makes it harder to get in quickly, but it makes it more secure. That’s likely the reason it’s been applied to the camera. However, a camera is something you might need to access quickly. If you have to type a code on the screen using a clunky UI and the camera button layout isn’t optimised for data entry it might make using the camera more difficult in the moment. If just going to sleep invokes the password screen, then something already poorly implemented becomes even worse.

So how could they make it better? Biometrics? Auto-authentication if you’ve got the app on your phone and are nearby? Yep. But that’s not where we are.

So pulling all that together, that’s how I’ve been able to conclude that the feature is flawed and useless without installing it yet on my camera. I might be wrong and if I am, I’ll get back to you, walking awkwardly, with my cactus nowhere to be seen.

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Yes, I get that. But the implementation is still flawed because the camera prompts for a password at power on by default - as seen here
View: https://youtu.be/pWt5C5zGOcI?si=fPx8IjYrRbUnDj8Y


I don’t know if it asks for a password again if the camera sleeps - my c1,c2,c3 presets forget after sleep (I know you can get them to save but I prefer not to) so seems possible. The implementation of a password to protect access to network settings which appears on boot when it could just activate to access specific screens or items is even more bizarre. Apparently some threads are saying it’s not for theft protection which makes the boot up password even more odd.
 
Jeebus. The default is on, the override is to check a box on PIN entry.
 
That’s an excellent question, thanks for asking.

Fundamentally, this is possible by using a combination of skills some humans have, which to coin a couple of phrases are called “abstract thought” and “prior knowledge.”

Let me give you an example. Let’s say I have a cactus, the really thorny kind and you want to borrow it - to shove right up your own rectum. Now, I’ve never seen anyone do this, and I don’t know what the purpose would be, but because I know cactuses are sharp and bums are delicate, I feel fairly confident it wouldn’t be a great idea - for you or for my cactus.

Now, back to cameras. I know how PIN codes work on phones, bank cards, padlocks, etc. They’re a method of authentication: a way to let someone with the right secret access a thing. A padlock on my shed makes it harder to get in quickly, but it makes it more secure. That’s likely the reason it’s been applied to the camera. However, a camera is something you might need to access quickly. If you have to type a code on the screen using a clunky UI and the camera button layout isn’t optimised for data entry it might make using the camera more difficult in the moment. If just going to sleep invokes the password screen, then something already poorly implemented becomes even worse.

So how could they make it better? Biometrics? Auto-authentication if you’ve got the app on your phone and are nearby? Yep. But that’s not where we are.

So pulling all that together, that’s how I’ve been able to conclude that the feature is flawed and useless without installing it yet on my camera. I might be wrong and if I am, I’ll get back to you, walking awkwardly, with my cactus nowhere to be seen.
The way you explain it, it sounds a pain in the a**e to be honest!
 
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