Canon EOS R Series Cameras

Why not just buy GM and enjoy the camera now rather than waiting for UK stores to catch up and ship?

All the shoots I had planned for 2nd half of the year have been and gone and it will not be till March 2023 for my next shoot. So waiting now is not an issue, perhaps it will arrive for Xmas day ! ! ! lol
 
Ok first serious hour out with the R7. Have to say I was shocked at how many OOF shots I had, guessing my AF settings were totally wrong as I get a lot more keepers with the 7D MKII and Sony a9.

Anyway, R7 and Canon 100-400mm MK II


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One taken first thing with the Sigma 150-600mm Sport @ 600mm ISO 12800 (helped out with DXO noise reduction)


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These look very good Mike - the colour and sharpness is clearly noticeable.

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Ok first serious hour out with the R7. Have to say I was shocked at how many OOF shots I had, guessing my AF settings were totally wrong as I get a lot more keepers with the 7D MKII and Sony a9.

Anyway, R7 and Canon 100-400mm MK II


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One taken first thing with the Sigma 150-600mm Sport @ 600mm ISO 12800 (helped out with DXO noise reduction)


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Have you resolved the OOF issue ! ?
 
I was shooting a dog on R6 70-200 f/4 for a client as some bonus shots. These are the best ones.

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1. I couldn't see a thing as viewfinder just went black
2. My 5D whatever was no joy in such shoots, but I would have at least 2 - 3 really good pin sharp shots out of these three runs we did. I have zero now. Granted 400mm is better but 200mm shouldn't be impossible.

before you ask only took this body because I expected to possibly do some dog product related video.

only option left is e shutter mode and playing through af menus. If you know a sure way to make it behave please fire away. Otherwise I'm seriously tempted to return the crap as faulty
 
I was shooting a dog on R6 70-200 f/4 for a client as some bonus shots. These are the best ones.

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1. I couldn't see a thing as viewfinder just went black
2. My 5D whatever was no joy in such shoots, but I would have at least 2 - 3 really good pin sharp shots out of these three runs we did. I have zero now. Granted 400mm is better but 200mm shouldn't be impossible.

before you ask only took this body because I expected to possibly do some dog product related video.

only option left is e shutter mode and playing through af menus. If you know a sure way to make it behave please fire away. Otherwise I'm seriously tempted to return the crap as faulty

A friend of mine is doing the same as you i.e dog photography, he uses R5 & EF 100-400L Mkii and he has some cracking images of border collies doing agility tests. The eye AF hits the dog weaving in and out of poles head on !

So I suspect there is a settings issue in the R6 !
 
So I suspect there is a settings issue in the R6 !
I would be interested to know. R5 and 6 are about the same.

Was it because dog is black and it couldn't clearly identify the eyes? I selected animal and all area tracking and I think it was still case1

I could go in the field at some point and look for some random dog.

200mm is not ideal for smaller dogs but really can't see why it should fail like this
If 200 works so will 400
 
I would be interested to know. R5 and 6 are about the same.

Was it because dog is black and it couldn't clearly identify the eyes? I selected animal and all area tracking and I think it was still case1

I could go in the field at some point and look for some random dog.

200mm is not ideal for smaller dogs but really can't see why it should fail like this
If 200 works so will 400

My friend mentioned the same that black / dark dogs do cause him problems.

Look at this YouTube video I know it is for the Sigma 150-600C, however he does mention R7 setting which may be of help with your R6
The part of video he mentins about back button for AF point and another button for Eye AF. As I suspect you need to swich between the 2 with black dogs !
 
My friend mentioned the same that black / dark dogs do cause him problems.

Look at this YouTube video I know it is for the Sigma 150-600C, however he does mention R7 setting which may be of help with your R6
The part of video he mentins about back button for AF point and another button for Eye AF. As I suspect you need to swich between the 2 with black dogs !
would you have a link for his videos please?
 
I ask Cliffton were am I in the in the Que for R7 which I placed in June 2022.
Had an e mail back from Cliffton Cameras that I am 60 in que for my R7 and they get apx 6-10 units per month, so it looks like I will not have my R7 for Xmas day ! ! !
I will be on holiday in Lake District soon, not that the R7 will be any benefit shooting landscape and my next getaway will be March 2023. Even this period I am not confident I will get the R7 ! ! ! lol
So I will revise my estimation for delivery from Xmas day to May Day 2023 !
 
I just found out new Canon imposed sanctions that could be related to yesterday. R6 really doesn't like 70-200 f/4 IS, 35 Sigma ART and 400 5.6. It cuts FPS in half for no obvious reason. All other lenses get the full entitlement. I wonder what else they cripple with these lenses, and likewise, how long until they blacklist all older (read non-RF) lenses or put them in a some sort of cripple mode or disallow them outright

So any idea why I have to use 70-200 f/2.8 II of the same vintage to get more FPS and who knows what else? I don't exactly need to shoot a dog at 2.8, nor take a premium lenses where it is going to get extra abuse.
 
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Screenshot of super pixelated output on canon connect app. The evf looks exactly as terrible.

Hope some canon rep is reading. I'm properly p***ed with their rubbish cameras
 
I just found out new Canon imposed sanctions that could be related to yesterday. R6 really doesn't like 70-200 f/4 IS, 35 Sigma ART and 400 5.6. It cuts FPS in half for no obvious reason. All other lenses get the full entitlement. I wonder what else they cripple with these lenses, and likewise, how long until they blacklist all older (read non-RF) lenses or put them in a some sort of cripple mode or disallow them outright

So any idea why I have to use 70-200 f/2.8 II of the same vintage to get more FPS and who knows what else? I don't exactly need to shoot a dog at 2.8, nor take a premium lenses where it is going to get extra abuse.

The reason is probably because those lenses' mechanics and/or electronics can't keep up with shooting 20fps. I don't think they will purposely downgrade or blacklist lenses in the future.
Just because two lenses were made around the same time doesn't mean they are equal in mechanics and/or electronics internally.

Even on Sony older native e-mount lenses are limited to 15fps and cannot shoot 20/30fps. 3rd party lenses are also limited to 15fps. Even older a-mount lenses when adapted I think can only do 5/10fps.

Canon did have a EF lens compatibility list somewhere which I cannot find. It detailed what to expect from older EF lenses and which ones supported the "full-fat" AF features (and there weren't that many telephotos on there IIRC).
 
Had an e mail back from Cliffton Cameras that I am 60 in que for my R7 and they get apx 6-10 units per month, so it looks like I will not have my R7 for Xmas day ! ! !
I hope Canon start catching up and Clifton start to get more units pm. Seems ridiculous.
 
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A little bit better today with the fat 70-200mm mkII in full e shutter mode. Moderate crop leaviing me with about 12MP. ISO12800 so pretty horrendous noise (luckily not much chroma noise all over the place) but cleaned up OK in Denoise AI at a cost of some fine detail.

I got about 50% usable frames. This is an absolutely worst case scenario considering it was 18:48 just around sunset and pretty grey with black dog sprinting at full speed. The ones further away were obviously better and a bit hit and miss closer by. Hopefully 400mm would take care of it.

It's a much bigger dog with better defined legs so in a way camera had it easier recognising it for an animal, but let's not forget yesterday was full sunshine.
 
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The reason is probably because those lenses' mechanics and/or electronics can't keep up with shooting 20fps. I don't think they will purposely downgrade or blacklist lenses in the future.
Just because two lenses were made around the same time doesn't mean they are equal in mechanics and/or electronics internally.

Even on Sony older native e-mount lenses are limited to 15fps and cannot shoot 20/30fps. 3rd party lenses are also limited to 15fps. Even older a-mount lenses when adapted I think can only do 5/10fps.

Canon did have a EF lens compatibility list somewhere which I cannot find. It detailed what to expect from older EF lenses and which ones supported the "full-fat" AF features (and there weren't that many telephotos on there IIRC).
If it is wide open and I'm not even pressing AF button then clearly it has nothing to do with lens at all. In fact it has less glass than 2.8 and needs less power to move once AF is engaged. It is not like 70-200mm f/4L IS is an old, or defective lens but canon would like me to see me spending 1500 for RF version or being relegated to some STM f9 plastic fantastic nasty nonsense
 
If it is wide open and I'm not even pressing AF button then clearly it has nothing to do with lens at all. In fact it has less glass than 2.8 and needs less power to move once AF is engaged. It is not like 70-200mm f/4L IS is an old, or defective lens but canon would like me to see me spending 1500 for RF version or being relegated to some STM f9 plastic fantastic nasty nonsense
Just because it has less glass doesn't necessarily means it has the necessary electronics or mechanics to drive it faster.
Sony's 70-200mm f4 is limited to 15fps while even the older 70-200mm f2.8 can shoot at 30fps.
 
Just because it has less glass doesn't necessarily means it has the necessary electronics or mechanics to drive it faster.
Sony's 70-200mm f4 is limited to 15fps while even the older 70-200mm f2.8 can shoot at 30fps.
but it can shoot 60fps at 4K all day long... well 30min at a time. It doesn't add up. Sorry
 
but it can shoot 60fps at 4K all day long... well 30min at a time. It doesn't add up. Sorry
So can all Sony older lenses. I don't understand the tech differences between it but may be someone else can explain.

In fact it is on the non-sanctioned list https://support.usa.canon.com/kb/index?page=content&id=ART178047
but maybe canon later changed their mind. Who knows.

Oddly they forgot to sanction Sigma 50mm ART
It's not a sanction. There is canon conspiracy to blacklist lenses that you like :facepalm:
 
Is there a Canon Customer Services I can complain to or is it a waste of time ! ?
There is a customer services dept but I expect it will get you nowhere. You could try complaining to the UK CEO or even the global CEO. If you get an answer at all it will probably blame worldwide shortages, supply chain issues etc. It could make you feel better but I expect you will still have to wait.

The more posts I read from longlensphotography, the videos about pulsing, the less inclined I am about buying one.
 
Just an observation but it's funny how Gray Importers can get them in the country and Canon are struggling.

Over the last few months, I've spent a fortune on goodies.

R6 - Battery grip - RF-EF Control ring - RF 24-105 F4L - RF 50mm 1.8 - RF 100mm 2.8L macro - RF 15-35 2.8L - RF 100-500 L Plus Extras

I think I've gone too far. These hobbies get out of control.

It all started with a 400D

HELP.
 
Just an observation but it's funny how Gray Importers can get them in the country and Canon are struggling.

Over the last few months, I've spent a fortune on goodies.

R6 - Battery grip - RF-EF Control ring - RF 24-105 F4L - RF 50mm 1.8 - RF 100mm 2.8L macro - RF 15-35 2.8L - RF 100-500 L Plus Extras

I think I've gone too far. These hobbies get out of control.

It all started with a 400D

HELP.
There is a self help thread. It's called medium format something
 
Was it because dog is black and it couldn't clearly identify the eyes? I selected animal and all area tracking and I think it was still case1

black dog and black eyes is probably the worst case scenario for eye AF to find and track an eye. I’ve noticed so far animal eye AF has been a bit hit and miss picking up eyes. With Red Squirrels its generally been very good. With Red Deer it’s been a bit hit and miss. That said the eye of the squirrel has generally been larger in the frame and at a closer subject distance too. The size of the eye is quite small on deer and I don’t want to get closer than I do. The hit and miss nature of animal eye AF is one of the reasons I’ve swapped to back button focus for engaging focus via the AF-on button. The * button to the right is then set to eye AF so I can quickly change to eye AF should I think the eye may be picked up. The next button to the right (AF area icon?) is still set to bring up the different AF area options so I can quickly change it.

I just found out new Canon imposed sanctions that could be related to yesterday. R6 really doesn't like 70-200 f/4 IS, 35 Sigma ART and 400 5.6. It cuts FPS in half for no obvious reason. All other lenses get the full entitlement. I wonder what else they cripple with these lenses, and likewise, how long until they blacklist all older (read non-RF) lenses or put them in a some sort of cripple mode or disallow them outright

So any idea why I have to use 70-200 f/2.8 II of the same vintage to get more FPS and who knows what else? I don't exactly need to shoot a dog at 2.8, nor take a premium lenses where it is going to get extra abuse.

sounds like you may have possibly got to the root cause of the issue. It’s possibly a technology issue with speed and AF acquisition issue with the 70-200 f4 when used on the R5/R6. I’ve not seen the issue you’ve highlighted as all my lenses are RF. As a newcomer to canon with no previous EF lenses it made more sense for me to buy straight into RF lens range.

I have to say I’ve not experienced many of the issues you’ve raised. The evf is never going to have the same dynamic range as a OVF and will to an extent have some pixelation as it won’t be as clear or crisp as an OVF. I’m probably more used to EVFs having been solely mirrorless for the last 3 years. I’ve probably forgotten what an OVF feels like.

I just thought I’d check you have set the view finder doppler correctly for your eyes. I know I have to set it to see the EVF as crisply as possible as otherwise my eyesight isn’t great.

I’m not saying your wrong as mirrorless is very much a personal opinion. Ive personally been happy with the R6 so far, but that covers only my needs/uses and everyone is different. For me there are a few benefits to an EVF over an OVF, but there are downsides too (some lag when panning fast, pixilation as resolution will be an issue until technology improves). For me the benefits currently outweigh the negatives. The chance to see the exposure, zoom in on focus in the EVF but most importantly the removal of needing to micro adjust the focus for each lens. As someone who wears glasses for seeing long distances OVF‘s were often a pain to ‘see’ the same focus as the camera captured. I don’t seem to have that issue now as with mirrorless manual focus is now pretty much spot on when I look through the EVF. I also love how the AF area can now cover pretty much the whole frame and that coupled with eye AF is potentially a game changer. I remember how small the AF spread was on the Nikon D750 that I once used. that was a great camera but sadly let down by the AF spread.

I think if you’re not happy with the R6 and still have a chance to return it I’d probably return it. If your not happy with it now you probably won’t ever be happy with it as there will always be that niggling feeling. I think it’s quite a personal thing when new technology is being introduced. I know some were pretty happy to jump in at the very start of sony‘s mirrorless introduction but for me it wasn’t until the sony A9/A7R3 came along that I thought it could be at a point I‘d be happy with the positives outweighing the negatives. It sound like for it may be a generation or two later than the R5/R6 before it’s at a stage where the current disadvantages have been resolved.
 
Last weekend I went out on a cloudy forecast only to be surprised by pretty much clear
skies and nice light at sunrise. This image is a full height portrait crop from a landscape photo. It’s roughly 11MP so quite a crop on the R6. taken at 500mm on the RF 100-500. That extra 100mm is pretty much like having a permanently attached teleconverter on a 100-400mm lens. You lose a bit of aperture going from 360mm (f5.6) to 500mm (f7.1) but that less than a 1.4x teleconverter would lose.

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Im pretty pleased with the RF 100-500 lens so far. It seems to be sharp thoughout the focal range. The compact size and weight definitely suits me. The only downside seems to be some of the bokeh. I’ve had to clone out some of the bokeh catch lights from the grass dew. There were a few ’cats eye’ bokeh shapes that didn’t look great. Easily solved by cloning in lightroom.

This is a wider view taken about five minutes later. It was around 300mm and with a greater subject distance. It shows why I love a long zoom lens for wildlife over a fixed prime lens. I just find it’s much more versatile and im happy I decided to go for the RF 100-500 over a 300mm f2.8 prime. The near full frame AF area coverage allowed me to put the deer right into the bottom corner. I’d previously needEd to shoot it wider then crop to get that composition.

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In a backlit room with brown wooden furniture you don't see a thing just contrasty outlines. Almost just white and black. Out of despair I set profile to faithful, contrast -4, full light optimiser, and that just barely lifted it a touch. I can't compose a shot and adjust furniture placement like that, I can't see what's going on. Adjusting cpl is outside fantasy zone. It's like you have to shoot blindly.
In this example I had already done the shot (and the whole shoot) with DSLR and just popped R6 in the same spot. It was unworkable. Flip screen is a lot sharper than evf, but too small and contrast issue remains. Even cannon connect app didn't help. So next up is usb cable to laptop which I'm really not looking forward to.
For video use I guess evf makes zero difference, and it's all down to floppy screen and mostly intuition and smooth movements... So that might still work if dynamic range is good enough.
I promise you it's far easier to keep shooting stills on 5d3 with ml hack. You get more noise but then you easily cover it with appropriate exposures. Obviously old dslr is almost useless for any video.
Outdoor it's a little better but you struggle with sunlit areas and shadows. You barely get basic highly pixelated outlines. R5 has slightly better evf resolution but does it have significantly better dynamic range close to real life? They are ok in low contrast environment but struggle with basic highlights

I tried higher FPS shooting passing cars and basically evf freezes for a moment between frames. You wonder if af still does the job, let alone if your little square is still in the right place. So I guess you must go for all auto af.

Menus and buttons are terrible on this thing. I spent ages configuring so most bases are finally covered for common operations but it still requires going through very lengthy menus every time to change absolute basics like setting bracketing or color temp. It's like it wants to be left in a+ mode... R5 may be better here, but still probably an obvious step back from 5d series.

I will be eagerly waiting for R5 ii or a7rv to offload this at the first opportunity. Meanwhile I wouldn't mind if it can pay for itself
With R5 I don't experience these issues at all. Maybe your camera is faulty? Take it in for repair?
 
I just thought I’d check you have set the view finder doppler correctly for your eyes. I know I have to set it to see the EVF as crisply as possible as otherwise my eyesight isn’t great.
I got menus and all numbers pretty sharp. It almost looks as if the camera drops the resolution for the actual view and reviews. Try shooting house brick wall and playing it back at 100% and you will be amazed at the difference between EVF and LCD.
I note a lot of youtube personalities are shooting looking at LCD in smartphone-like fashion. It really makes sense despite worse grip and stability since LCD displays offer far sharper and more responsive image. Shame LCDs are so small. Phone like 6" would be much better.
I have to say I’ve not experienced many of the issues you’ve raised. The evf is never going to have the same dynamic range as a OVF and will to an extent have some pixelation as it won’t be as clear or crisp as an OVF. I’m probably more used to EVFs having been solely mirrorless for the last 3 years. I’ve probably forgotten what an OVF feels like.
It could be a lot better with existing hw by employing some processing of raw data stream to give a nice clog3 (only available in video mode - why???!) or HDR-like image to account for full DR visible by the sensor. And that would also give a realistic histogram. Instead it behaves like a contrasty 8bit over-processed JPEG, and even neutral or faithful style with contrast set to -4 doesn't tone it down anywhere near enough. Think of a basic aggressively set highlight and shadow recovery in LR, and that fits nicely into our 8-10bit monitors, and printers. So basically it is a firmware update away, but it won't happen for cheap camera (in their eyes). Most likely this is getting reserved for R1 just because.
And they could really fix the phone app. If bloody mini 2 drone can send full HD signal over 7km away then this can do same at 70cm away!

but there are downsides too (some lag when panning fast, pixilation as resolution will be an issue until technology improves).

I start to think more and more that R6 CPU is unable to cope with so much data coming in and out. Z9 has it all worked out. So basically we get baited into 20fps all singing and dancing body with 1DX III sensor (what could possibly go wrong here?) and then get thrown into the proverbial boiling water. The reality is that there were big savings made here and there to make sure this can never be a true pro grade camera. If your job relies on tracking and capturing streams of fast action images, you would have already traded this in on a day 1 of Z9 or R3 release.
Pixelation is also partly fixed in Sony A1. Expect that to be reserved for next couple of gen to exclusively 5k+ products.

For me the benefits currently outweigh the negatives.
1. VIDEO. No choice really other than SONY A1, A7IV or Z9
2. 1DX III sensor with the corresponding benefits (but fairly low res in modern day standards*). Obviously I could get it in a much better package together with 1. but am not willing to shell out over £5k at the moment. I will likely get this used at some point after R1 release.
* It's enough 80-90% time, and can print A1 just fine, but heavier cropping or printing larger is really out of question. Same for 8K video which will only become truly important after some time.
3. 20fps - if you can make use of them due to HW and software based limitations. It depends on a case by case basis. Z9 would be an obviously better choice money no object.
4. IBIS - for non-stabilised lenses like 400/5.6L or 85/1.4. Former doesn't make as much sense on R6 - you totally want the full res of R5 when shooting one of these.
I can't comment so much on stabilised ones so far but would expect some improvement too. If there are people involved you really don't want to go under 1/200s so its really mostly for longer ones in practice. You really need to try and make mess with 24-70mm at 1/200s IBIS or no IBIS.

I was expecting AF to be more of a great leap forward in this package. Full sensor area is great. That's probably the biggest one. It is a lot smarter than 5D3 / 5Ds but in real life I have very few other complaints on them and that was essentially the dog running at crazy speed towards camera. I am going at extreme lengths to reconfigure R6 to actually make it do what it promised. Canon should have done the homework for their customer. Leaving all in enforced full auto is so digital rebel level, except menus have grown by a few orders of magnitude and they no longer even supply a manual! They are so different from 5D that it made almost zero difference between going to Nikon or Sony. I note R3 retained a lot of 1DX layout....
Now Sony reps told me their cams can do truly crazy things. Like memorise certain people, and prioritise certain people in particular order. I'm not sure how I feel about all that but it is really something else.

There are dodgy primes that just don't behave well on DSLR wide open (excluding live view), and that includes the likes of Canon's own 50mm STM (and all of STM), Tamron 45mm (and I suspect all Tamron in general), etc. Other than that there were already totally no issues.
Both Rx and 5Dx can't drive big whites as well as 1Dx / R3 due to lower voltage so that's theoretically another way how they make sure that fast action pros have no chance here.

Canon clearly intended R5 and R6 to be openly consumer oriented products at pro price levels before adding plastic lenses priced at MF levels, and thus we are really forced to low res R3 or competitor products.

Believe it or not I have not ditched DSLRs and have no such plans whatsoever. R6 was a mid-expenditure solution to get into video business, and take off some load at challenging settings like dark wedding venue where 5Ds only makes the matter worse. I will expect to upgrade away from R6 before too long.
 
With R5 I don't experience these issues at all. Maybe your camera is faulty? Take it in for repair?
not even crazy long menus? Are you sure yours is a Canon? :)

Maybe R5 has much better CPU. It sure needs a faster one to deal with more MPs.
 
I got menus and all numbers pretty sharp. It almost looks as if the camera drops the resolution for the actual view and reviews. Try shooting house brick wall and playing it back at 100% and you will be amazed at the difference between EVF and LCD.
I note a lot of youtube personalities are shooting looking at LCD in smartphone-like fashion. It really makes sense despite worse grip and stability since LCD displays offer far sharper and more responsive image. Shame LCDs are so small. Phone like 6" would be much better.

It could be a lot better with existing hw by employing some processing of raw data stream to give a nice clog3 (only available in video mode - why???!) or HDR-like image to account for full DR visible by the sensor. And that would also give a realistic histogram. Instead it behaves like a contrasty 8bit over-processed JPEG, and even neutral or faithful style with contrast set to -4 doesn't tone it down anywhere near enough. Think of a basic aggressively set highlight and shadow recovery in LR, and that fits nicely into our 8-10bit monitors, and printers. So basically it is a firmware update away, but it won't happen for cheap camera (in their eyes). Most likely this is getting reserved for R1 just because.
And they could really fix the phone app. If bloody mini 2 drone can send full HD signal over 7km away then this can do same at 70cm away!



I start to think more and more that R6 CPU is unable to cope with so much data coming in and out. Z9 has it all worked out. So basically we get baited into 20fps all singing and dancing body with 1DX III sensor (what could possibly go wrong here?) and then get thrown into the proverbial boiling water. The reality is that there were big savings made here and there to make sure this can never be a true pro grade camera. If your job relies on tracking and capturing streams of fast action images, you would have already traded this in on a day 1 of Z9 or R3 release.
Pixelation is also partly fixed in Sony A1. Expect that to be reserved for next couple of gen to exclusively 5k+ products.


1. VIDEO. No choice really other than SONY A1, A7IV or Z9
2. 1DX III sensor with the corresponding benefits (but fairly low res in modern day standards*). Obviously I could get it in a much better package together with 1. but am not willing to shell out over £5k at the moment. I will likely get this used at some point after R1 release.
* It's enough 80-90% time, and can print A1 just fine, but heavier cropping or printing larger is really out of question. Same for 8K video which will only become truly important after some time.
3. 20fps - if you can make use of them due to HW and software based limitations. It depends on a case by case basis. Z9 would be an obviously better choice money no object.
4. IBIS - for non-stabilised lenses like 400/5.6L or 85/1.4. Former doesn't make as much sense on R6 - you totally want the full res of R5 when shooting one of these.
I can't comment so much on stabilised ones so far but would expect some improvement too. If there are people involved you really don't want to go under 1/200s so its really mostly for longer ones in practice. You really need to try and make mess with 24-70mm at 1/200s IBIS or no IBIS.

I was expecting AF to be more of a great leap forward in this package. Full sensor area is great. That's probably the biggest one. It is a lot smarter than 5D3 / 5Ds but in real life I have very few other complaints on them and that was essentially the dog running at crazy speed towards camera. I am going at extreme lengths to reconfigure R6 to actually make it do what it promised. Canon should have done the homework for their customer. Leaving all in enforced full auto is so digital rebel level, except menus have grown by a few orders of magnitude and they no longer even supply a manual! They are so different from 5D that it made almost zero difference between going to Nikon or Sony. I note R3 retained a lot of 1DX layout....
Now Sony reps told me their cams can do truly crazy things. Like memorise certain people, and prioritise certain people in particular order. I'm not sure how I feel about all that but it is really something else.

There are dodgy primes that just don't behave well on DSLR wide open (excluding live view), and that includes the likes of Canon's own 50mm STM (and all of STM), Tamron 45mm (and I suspect all Tamron in general), etc. Other than that there were already totally no issues.
Both Rx and 5Dx can't drive big whites as well as 1Dx / R3 due to lower voltage so that's theoretically another way how they make sure that fast action pros have no chance here.

Canon clearly intended R5 and R6 to be openly consumer oriented products at pro price levels before adding plastic lenses priced at MF levels, and thus we are really forced to low res R3 or competitor products.

Believe it or not I have not ditched DSLRs and have no such plans whatsoever. R6 was a mid-expenditure solution to get into video business, and take off some load at challenging settings like dark wedding venue where 5Ds only makes the matter worse. I will expect to upgrade away from R6 before too long.
R5/6 aren't really a true 20fps body IMO simply because there's too much compromise. You get 20fps at a loss of ton of dynamic range and you also get rolling shutter with panning fast action.
I would personally stick to shooting with mechanical shutter on those cameras.
And thanks to lack of stacked sensor you also may experience wee bit of lag despite the blackout free shooting. You don't see the same lag shooting mechanical shutter at lower FPS but you have shutter blackout instead.
Having said all that the AF on R5 IME has been fantastic. I simply shoot mechanical shutter which is just fine for me.
 
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