Canon EOS M Series Cameras

OwenM said:
Has anyone tried the 22mm f = 2 lens?
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If you mean the EF-M 22mm f/2, only since they came out....

Absolute beaut of a genuine pancake lens

Steve
 
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Hugh Jarse said:
EGlobal a have it on sale at £400 tempting!
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I was very tempted to get it from them, but being a bit nervous when it comes to lenses i felt safer getting it from Amazon. Plus it was next date deleiry. I’m not a person who likes to wait lol.
 
dave_bass5 said:
I was very tempted to get it from them, but being a bit nervous when it comes to lenses i felt safer getting it from Amazon. Plus it was next date deleiry. I’m not a person who likes to wait lol.
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Probably a good idea with it being a new release. Never know if theres a recall or a bug etc.
 
(QUOTE="dave_bass5, post: 8284492, member: 668"]Typically on a new lens day the weather decides to change. Too wet to shoot outdoors on the way home so ive had to amuse myself at home.

This is at f/1.4 hand held. Im pleased with the lens. Edges are nice and sharp, as its the centre. Definitely the best 50mm (eqiv) lens ive owned.


Dobby@f/1.4 by Dave Pearce, on Flickr[/QUOTE]
Nice selfie Dave :p
 
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SsSsSsSsSnake said:
(QUOTE="dave_bass5, post: 8284492, member: 668"]Typically on a new lens day the weather decides to change. Too wet to shoot outdoors on the way home so ive had to amuse myself at home.

This is at f/1.4 hand held. Im pleased with the lens. Edges are nice and sharp, as its the centre. Definitely the best 50mm (eqiv) lens ive owned.


Dobby@f/1.4 by Dave Pearce, on Flickr
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Nice selfie Dave :p[/QUOTE]

Well someone was going to say it lol.

Seriously impressed with this lens. Thers is a test i do with all my lenses where i shoot across the river thames to the north bank where there is a long line of trees. With this i can see how they edges look. The only lens ive owned that has been this good at the edges wide open is my 24-70 f/2.8 mkII.
Obviously I’m shooting with a crop sensor so its never going to quite match my 5D4, but my god its so close. I’m up to about 100 shots with the lens so far, and not one has made me go ‘hmmm, what went wrong there’.
 
twist said:
Probably a good idea with it being a new release. Never know if theres a recall or a bug etc.
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Yeah. I find its hard to prove there is soemthing wrong with a lens if it needs sending back sometimes. At least over here we have the option to send it back no matter what whin a period of time.
 
dave_bass5 said:
I was very tempted to get it from them, but being a bit nervous when it comes to lenses i felt safer getting it from Amazon. Plus it was next date deleiry. I’m not a person who likes to wait lol.
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Never had a problem with e-global.

I will make my mind up on where I buy the lens, when I get back to Somerset.

Steve
 
This interview with Canon USA's President has some interesting content and I think bodes well for the future of the EOS M-series :

https://www.imaging-resource.com/ne...ogawa-talks-mirrorless-strategy-eos-r-arrives

This part in particular :

" Well, I cannot share future product plans, however basically our strategy is a "full lineup" strategy. So [covering] from entry level to the professionals, regardless of the format. Digital SLR or mirrorless, and even digital compact cameras. Also, we have the EOS M series. Each group of technologies or products itself has an advantage. So a "full lineup" strategy means to fulfill the entire requirement from the customers.

Therefore, with digital SLRs, you have the expertise; advantages and disadvantages: Mirrorless has advantages and disadvantages. Digital compact cameras as well, you know, they all have advantages and disadvantages. How we put the priority for the specifications, that is the key. "

Meanwhile, I have swopped my M5 body + Adapter for a mirrorless EOS R + EF Adapter (and RF kit lens). I have kept my 1DX-2 (of course!).
 
I have decided that full frame is not the way I want to go with Canon at the moment (I have my Pentax K-1 for that), infact the only reasons I use a Canon DSLR are for fast AF and the MP-E65mm macro lens. However when Canon make a EOS-R size mirrorless crop body (be it a 7DIII or M5II) then I have the money waiting.

Saying that I will still keep my M5 as I think it's a cracking little camera, infact so much so my 7D MKI is off to MPB today and that leaves me with just the M5 which I am quite happy to use with the macro lens or my 100-400mm MKII.
 
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Id love to swap my 5D4 for a EOS R, but im still enjoying using my M50 too much to care about FF at the moment.

For me its the lens selection rather than form factor/weight etc. Over the past 6 months ive used my 5D4 3 times, and that was because i didnt have my M50 close to hand.

Being able to use all my lenses on my M50 makes it, for me at least, a much more versatile system. With the addition of the 32mm f/1.4 covering the 50mm length better than my 50mm f/1.8 STM on my 5D4, and nothing that fits on the 5D4 comes close to matching the 18-135 USM Nano for versatility i just cant see me wanting to invest in FF any more.

We all know that FF can give better results, but ive come to realise my M50 gives me good enough results, and i do have my 5D4 as back up lol. I would never give up on FF completely, but i just dont see me needing it for 99% of what i shoot.

The only new camera i can see in my near future will be the M5II. Ive seen what entry level M can achieve, and am looking forward to seeing what features Canon bring from the R to the next M5 (or higher model maybe). Who knows, maybe we will get IBIS first lol.
 
dave_bass5 said:
Id love to swap my 5D4 for a EOS R, but im still enjoying using my M50 too much to care about FF at the moment.

For me its the lens selection rather than form factor/weight etc. Over the past 6 months ive used my 5D4 3 times, and that was because i didnt have my M50 close to hand.

Being able to use all my lenses on my M50 makes it, for me at least, a much more versatile system. With the addition of the 32mm f/1.4 covering the 50mm length better than my 50mm f/1.8 STM on my 5D4, and nothing that fits on the 5D4 comes close to matching the 18-135 USM Nano for versatility i just cant see me wanting to invest in FF any more.

We all know that FF can give better results, but ive come to realise my M50 gives me good enough results, and i do have my 5D4 as back up lol. I would never give up on FF completely, but i just dont see me needing it for 99% of what i shoot.

The only new camera i can see in my near future will be the M5II. Ive seen what entry level M can achieve, and am looking forward to seeing what features Canon bring from the R to the next M5 (or higher model maybe). Who knows, maybe we will get IBIS first lol.
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I love my little M50! I think the continuous drive mode and overall features are brilliant - nothing I would change! Like it that much, im contemplating sneaking that with the 22mm lens along with my Panasonic kit to NY next month!
 
dave_bass5 said:
We all know that FF can give better results, but ive come to realise my M50 gives me good enough results, and i do have my 5D4 as back up lol. I would never give up on FF completely, but i just dont see me needing it for 99% of what i shoot.

The only new camera i can see in my near future will be the M5II. Ive seen what entry level M can achieve, and am looking forward to seeing what features Canon bring from the R to the next M5 (or higher model maybe).

Who knows, maybe we will get IBIS first lol.
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.... Seeing that Canon historically always introduce some (not all) of their latest technologies into whichever their latest camera body is, I think it extremely likely that the M5 MkII will include some of the EOS R mirrorless features and IF Canon have developed an IBIS capability sufficiently at that time, it is very likely to appear in a M series < Why not?

As said by Canon USA's president [See my Reply #4735] the M series is not getting ditched for the sake of the mirrorless R. < My words not his!

As always, it's Horses-for-Courses when choosing which camera to shoot with and the small M series have some very compelling and useful advantages, albeit not for myself any longer.

Enjoy the one you're with! Or as Stephen Stills sang back in those glorious 'hippy' days: "Love the one you're with"
 
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stickytape said:
I love my little M50! I think the continuous drive mode and overall features are brilliant - nothing I would change! Like it that much, im contemplating sneaking that with the 22mm lens along with my Panasonic kit to NY next month!
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Ah, the burst mode is my only real complaint. Shooting raw i get about 3 shots and then the buffer's full and i wait for it to flush. This caught me out the other week when i was trying to shoot a stuntman jumping off a building (for the Jack Ryan TV show). I got the jump and got the landing, but missed the middle bit.
This, along with IOS12 not liking .cr3 files has prompted me to use JPG a lot more than i have done in the past, and if im honest, im not really missing much.

Robin. Id love to use FF more, but for me the lens selection is boring compared to EF-S/M. I have some nice L lenses, but what with the FF FOV they just dont seem to work well enough over what i can achieve with my M50. If i had to choose one or the other it would be the M50, but i am glad i have that choice.
 
I wonder why nobody has produced a commercially available EF to EF-M Speedbooster to date. Speedboosters exist for EF to M43 and Sony which permit a degree of lens control, lens image stabilisation and autofocus. Since an EF to EF-M adapter is dealing with Canon protocols only, I would have though it would be a much simpler technical challenge, although maybe such a device might incur Canon's wrath. The above mentioned 50mm STM would then become an equivalent 56mm F1.2, a much more interesting prospect compared to using the existing glassless Canon EF to EF-M adapter.
 
HarveyM said:
I wonder why nobody has produced a commercially available EF to EF-M Speedbooster to date. Speedboosters exist for EF to M43 and Sony which permit a degree of lens control, lens image stabilisation and autofocus. Since an EF to EF-M adapter is dealing with Canon protocols only, I would have though it would be a much simpler technical challenge, although maybe such a device might incur Canon's wrath. The above mentioned 50mm STM would then become an equivalent 56mm F1.2, a much more interesting prospect compared to using the existing glassless Canon EF to EF-M adapter.
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Not far away it seems

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4324889
 
The Speedbooster is now on the Viltrox site, it's not clear yet if both ends are metal mount, some of the prototypes were plastic at one end. Quality control has been an issue with other speedboosters by Viltrox, mainly issues with infinity focus.

http://viltrox.com/en/index.php?m=index&a=show&cid=145&id=228

Mike.P said:
This is the main reason I didn't swap my M5 for the M50 in the end ... the little M5 can rattle off a 18 shot RAW burst in fast mode before slowing down.
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Oddly, the M50 appears to have a smaller buffer than the M100.
 
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dave_bass5 said:
Ah, the burst mode is my only real complaint. Shooting raw i get about 3 shots and then the buffer's full and i wait for it to flush. This caught me out the other week when i was trying to shoot a stuntman jumping off a building (for the Jack Ryan TV show). I got the jump and got the landing, but missed the middle bit.
This, along with IOS12 not liking .cr3 files has prompted me to use JPG a lot more than i have done in the past, and if im honest, im not really missing much.

Robin. Id love to use FF more, but for me the lens selection is boring compared to EF-S/M. I have some nice L lenses, but what with the FF FOV they just dont seem to work well enough over what i can achieve with my M50. If i had to choose one or the other it would be the M50, but i am glad i have that choice.
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.... The burst rate on the EOS R when using Dual Pixel RAW and Servo tracking for subjects like birds in flight and stuntmen jumping off buildings, is barely 3fps and so its biggest weakness for my purposes.

The EOS system as a whole gives us Canon shooters a very wide choice of the right horses-for-the-courses.

For me who uses big penis extension telephoto lenses a lot, a small compact M body doesn't help me.
 
Picture for a change ... I remembered I had a Pentax K to EOS adapter so I mounted that to the EF-M adapter and then put on my old Pentax 135mm f/2.8.
Result was pretty good so I have ordered a proper K to EF-M adapter (with aperture control for my newer Pentax lenses) to have a play with. Focus peaking and magnification through the EVF do make adapting lenses a lot easier than before.

Pentax F 135mm f/2.8 shot wide open.(dog never looks at me when I'm taking his photo, it's like he does it on purpose) :p


Finlay by Mike.Pursey, on Flickr
 
Oooh, the Speedbooster looks interesting. Ive seen these things mentioned in the Sony forums but never paid much attention to them. i will keep an eye on this.

As far as the burst mode, i need to double check it wasnt the SD card causing this slow down. Im using a very fast card, and i know with my 5D4 when i use it transfer rates are actually slower than a slower card, due to it going in to a compatibility mode on the SD slot. I wonder if the same thing is happening with the M50. the reason i use this car dis for its very fast read rate. I hardly ever need to shoot in high speed mode, but dont like waiting for the files to transfer to my computer or ipad.
 
Yes, more pictures are needed.
Taken out my window with my M50 and 70-300L. This shot, when i upped the Dehaze in LR, had around 20 dust spots. Quite shocked to see them. I haven't tested it since but im hoping they have been cleaned by the built in cleaning routine and a rocket blower. I realise the Dehaze filter enhanced them and normally i wouldn't see them, but it was quite a shock to know there were there.


The Moon in the afternoon. by Dave Pearce, on Flickr
 
Mike.P said:
Must admit I have noticed I get a lot more dust bunnies on the M5 compared to my DSLR's.
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I never really thought about it before, but i guess the sensor in these cameras are closer to the outside world so it makes sense.
 
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Mike.P said:
Picture for a change ... I remembered I had a Pentax K to EOS adapter so I mounted that to the EF-M adapter and then put on my old Pentax 135mm f/2.8.
Result was pretty good so I have ordered a proper K to EF-M adapter (with aperture control for my newer Pentax lenses) to have a play with. Focus peaking and magnification through the EVF do make adapting lenses a lot easier than before.

Pentax F 135mm f/2.8 shot wide open.(dog never looks at me when I'm taking his photo, it's like he does it on purpose) :p


Finlay by Mike.Pursey, on Flickr
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Nice shot Mike, plenty of detail there.

Will be interested to hear what you think of the PK to EF-M adapter and wether it has any advantages other than the aperture control, over the PK to EF mounted on the EF to EF-M adapter, as that is what I'm using. All my old PK lenses have aperture control, so that part doesn't effect my usage.
Please let us know how it goes.
 
Just went into a panic as I decided to put the adapter on my Sigma 85mm f1.4 and it jammed. Had to use pliers and a fair bit of force to get it off.
Completely destroyed it in the process but at least the lens is ok. Hopefully this new one is better made.
 
Mike.P said:
Link to Ebay sale page .... tempted.
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The link is actually for an EF -M43 speedbooster. Viltrox have a somewhat confusing product description convention. The listed product is the EF-M2, the Speedbooster for EOS M cameras is EF-EOS M2.
 
Mike.P said:
Must admit I have noticed I get a lot more dust bunnies on the M5 compared to my DSLR's.
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.... That's because the sensor is more exposed on a mirrorless body but it's also why the mirrorless EOS R has an automatic curtain protecting it every time you either switch the power off or unmount a lens, even with the EF adapter attached. It's the sort of simple solution which begs the question why wasn't this feature introduced before?

I expect that future EOS mirrorless cameras including the M series might have this protective feature.
 
Autumn on Ashridge Estate Canon M5 and Canon 17-55 F2.8

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