Canon EOS 1DS???

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Hi,

I am looking to upgrade my 350D. I am very new to the hobby but would like to take a step forward with my equipment.
I have found a 1DS? Can someone please give me they're opinion on this body?
It has less than 20,000 shutter count.
Are there different models? Mk1 Mk11 Mk11 etc?
What kind of questions should I ask the seller?
Am I looking to run before I can walk?
Sorry if the questions appear to be dumb :cuckoo:


Thank you in advance

Paul
 
Have a look HERE
for all the info on the EOS series cameras.

HTH

David
 
What price have you seen it for?

You will definitely be doing a step up in build and focus quality that's for sure.. not having used either body I am not certain about the image quality but I suspect you will not see an amazing difference..

It depends what you want to use it for??
 
Built like a tank, good for 200,000 actuations.

Heavy beast but lovely to use

yes they do Mk1 though to the MkIV (released only this month)

Has Full frame sensor so only takes EF and not EF-S lenses.

As others have said though, it depends what you want to use it for?
 
What lenses do you have atm? It requires EF lenses, so you might need to swap your glass round as well.
 
I used one for a couple of years, wonderful quality of files although by todays standards download to card times are a bit slow. If you don't go much above iso400 you should be OK.

Depending on the price a second hand 5d might be a better option?
 
The 350D - 1DS MKI probably isn't the natural progression I would jump at. As mentioned its a full frame sensor, compared to the cropped sensor you currently have on your 350D. Its a pro body, so built like a tank, 11MP sensor, EF lenses only, no scene/auto modes etc

As you said your new to photography, do you have some basic understand about apertures/shutter speed/exposure/ISO settings, this camera is designed for the intermediate/experience photographer and its handling will require some getting use to as the controls are completely different to the 350D.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EOS1DS/E1DSA.HTM

Apart from the obvious that you've been offered this camera, why do you think it would be a good option? and what are you going to be using it for?

Would you be able to try the camera out, as this would really benefit your decision.
 
Hi

Thanks for all your rapid responses :clap:
My glass/lens are as ancient, basic, as my camera! So I am looking to update lenses also.
I have no specfic feild atm so I was looking for an "all-rounder" body. Would the 1DS suit?
Not too worried about the camera's weight so that not an issue for me.
It has been mentioned that the 1DS can only use Ef lens, does that reduce the amount of choice?
Does a full frame camera limit what the camera can be used for?
What kind of price should I be looking to pay?
Sorry for all the questions, I can't afford to buy the wrong camera
Thank you all again for your replies.:thumbs:

Paul
 
If it's a 1Ds Mk1 then I would wonder what it's history is. It may have been well used, Ok that's what they are designed for, but it may be getting on a bit. It is a big camera and weighs a lot compared to your 350D.

And any EFS lenses you have wouldn't be compatible with the 1Ds. Depending on your budget you may be better off looking at a 40D or 50D.

The question I would ask is why you want to change you camera ?
 
pete.rush said:
The 350D - 1DS MKI probably isn't the natural progression I would jump at. As mentioned its a full frame sensor, compared to the cropped sensor you currently have on your 350D. Its a pro body, so built like a tank, 11MP sensor, EF lenses only, no scene/auto modes etc

As you said your new to photography, do you have some basic understand about apertures/shutter speed/exposure/ISO settings, this camera is designed for the intermediate/experience photographer and its handling will require some getting use to as the controls are completely different to the 350D.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EOS1DS/E1DSA.HTM

Apart from the obvious that you've been offered this camera, why do you think it would be a good option? and what are you going to be using it for?

Would you be able to try the camera out, as this would really benefit your decision.
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Hi Pete,

You replied before I did.
I do have a basic idea of settings, apertures, ISO etc
I know it's a big jump from what I already have but the camera seems to be a good price. Would not have been my obvious upgrade otherwise. Even if I put it away until my camera skills improve.
And I have been given the opportunity to try the camera.
Thank you for your reply

Paul
 
Chappers said:
If it's a 1Ds Mk1 then I would wonder what it's history is. It may have been well used, Ok that's what they are designed for, but it may be getting on a bit. It is a big camera and weighs a lot compared to your 350D.

And any EFS lenses you have wouldn't be compatible with the 1Ds. Depending on your budget you may be better off looking at a 40D or 50D.

The question I would ask is why you want to change you camera ?
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Hi Chappers,

Wow I can't keep up with all the responses! lol
Not sure of the history yet, that's going to be my first question when I contact the seller. All I know atm is that it has 19,000 shutter count.
As I mentioned, the camera has been brought to my attention and I wanted to know if it was worth purchasing even if I put it away until my skills match its abilities
Thanks for your response :thumbs:

Paul
 
pgreen1011 said:
Hi
I have no specfic feild atm so I was looking for an "all-rounder" body. Would the 1DS suit?
It has been mentioned that the 1DS can only use Ef lens, does that reduce the amount of choice?
Does a full frame camera limit what the camera can be used for?
What kind of price should I be looking to pay?
Paul
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The full frame sensor camera's are intended more for landscapes and studio work, its not to say they can't be used for sports photography etc, but there is the 1D version which is a 1.3x crop camera which is more suited to that type of photography. The 1DS, 1DS MKII are full frame, 1D, 1D MKII are 1.3x cropped sensor camera's.

You do not lose any choice with lenses. You gain with the wide angle lenses because you're not losing part of the frame to the crop factor, eg a 50mm lens frames like a 50mm lens on a FF sensor, but on a cropped sensor it would frame like a 80mm lens, but you lose at the telephoto end because there no crop factor.

As for price, not sure have a look on eBay, MBP, ffordes, Mifsuds at the second hand prices, would say between £500 - 1000.
 
pete.rush said:
The full frame sensor camera's are intended more for landscapes and studio work, its not to say they can't be used for sports photography etc, but there is the 1D version which is a 1.3x crop camera which is more suited to that type of photography. The 1DS, 1DS MKII are full frame, 1D, 1D MKII are 1.3x cropped sensor camera's.

You do not lose any choice with lenses. You gain with the wide angle lenses because you're not losing part of the frame to the crop factor, eg a 50mm lens frames like a 50mm lens on a FF sensor, but on a cropped sensor it would frame like a 80mm lens, but you lose at the telephoto end because there no crop factor.

As for price, not sure have a look on eBay, MBP, ffordes, Mifsuds at the second hand prices, would say between £500 - 1000.
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As you're talking about the 1D at 1.3 crop, the 50mm will look like a 65mm lens, not an 80mm lens.

The 80mm would apply to a 1.6 crop body..
 
As for your skills, yes it does take some getting used to. I have the MkII and I'd say it took me about 6 months to really get to grips with it and that was coming from the 5D which is FF too so not as much of a leap as you are contemplating.

It does have a certain amount of automation in that it still has P, Av and Tv modes so you don't have to dive in with M if you don't feel like it. Metering is the same, autofocus is blindingly good with 45 AF points.

The EF lenses are sometimes more expensive than the EF-S ones so bear it in mind what you will need in your budget.
 
I am selling one so I am biased, but a 1Ds produces lovely images even though it is quite an old model. The build is exceptional, you really feel that it is a professional piece of kit and the autofocus is stunningly accurate. AF is a step ahead of any non-1 series Canon camera in my experience. I (merginally) prefer the photos from my 1Ds to those from my 5D until I have to ramp up the ISO. Exposure meetering is also very good (once you have added the 1/3 stop that it consistently needs). Having said all this, to see any real improvement would probably also mean using quality lenses. I'd expect the 350D would be capable of good images with the right lenses on the front, and it might be worth improving this area before you change bodies.
 
i've heard stories about people in the know who snap up the original 1ds when they can, something about the way the colour tones are reproduced apparantly. the build will be exceptional on the camera too. one thing to take into account is that the battery life can be horrible on the original 1 series.
 
If you want to see some images taken with the 1DS. Feel free to look at any image in my gallery. Everyone is taken with this camera.

As said built like a tank. Heavy as hell . Battery life not the best. But it dont half feel good when your using it..


md
 
cuscus said:
As you're talking about the 1D at 1.3 crop, the 50mm will look like a 65mm lens, not an 80mm lens.

The 80mm would apply to a 1.6 crop body..
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I wasn't talking about the 1D, he's been offered the 1Ds, so I was comparing his current camera 350D (1.6x) with the 1Ds (FF) as he asked about lenses, so pointed out the benefits of the FF camera.
 
but there is the 1D version which is a 1.3x crop camera which is more suited to that type of photography.


Oh ok???? :bonk:
 
cuscus said:
but there is the 1D version which is a 1.3x crop camera which is more suited to that type of photography.


Oh ok???? :bonk:
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Canon 1D series consists of...........
1DS is the Full Frame camera's and lots of M'Pixels
1D is the 1.3x cropped sensor. camera's sensor has been tuned to produce faster autofocus capabilities for action photography, although the 1D models aren't slouches.
 
Thank you all for your replies and assistance.

I have to admit a lot of the information was way above my head :thinking:
Which leads me to think that maybe I'm not ready yet to move forward with the camera and concentrate on improving my knowledge and upgrading my lenses.

Thank you again :thumbs:

Paul
 
Maybe you should ask yourself (seriously) if it is the best choice for you as it is a serious jump!! Unless you are going full hog I'd have thought you were best going to a 40 or 50D, that way you still get good quality and a pretty well made camera, get to use more common and therefore cheaper lenses and you still have auto modes (for when someone wants to play and take some pics of you perhaps for a change!) and you also have a built in flash and a more compact camera. It will be a hell of a lot better than your 350D and you are more likely to take it out than the 1D tank!

Basically I agree the 1D is obviously a great camera but just saying you may find a 40 or 50D is more than adequate and much more useable.
 
mho said:
That only applies to the 1Dmk1 not the 1DSmk1.
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Agree with this, I have not found the 1Ds to be hard on batteries. It seems to be about the same as the 1D IIN from the times I used it.
 
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