Canon 7D mk2 owners thread.

Joeturner11 said:
Simple answer no. Many of the issues were when the camera first got released, all issues seem to have gone now by online reports etc
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It was exactly the same with the 50D, the 7D MkI, the 70D and the 5D MkIII. It just takes time for people to read the manual and learn how their new toy works.
 
Only £799 on Panamoz. MUST. RESIST. MUST. RESIST. I've only had my 70D for a year :help:
 
Same experience for me.
 
Go for it, what's the worst that can happen... Well apart from maybe sending you one of those a few of us have returned...:exit::thinking:
 
Spiderdudeuk said:
Not very patronising at all... :bat:
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Well, it's either that or all five camera models had AF problems with the early batches that Canon fixed in later batches. Whereas that's only happened with the 1D MKIII - and Canon acknowledged the problem and fixed the older bodies.
 
hollis_f said:
Well, it's either that or all five camera models had AF problems with the early batches that Canon fixed in later batches. Whereas that's only happened with the 1D MKIII - and Canon acknowledged the problem and fixed the older bodies.
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So people who were already using 1DX's and 5D3's prior to buying a MkII suddenly became incapable of adapting to a camera that was fundamentally the same as they were already using? Unlikely, don't you think?
 
Gaz J said:
So people who were already using 1DX's and 5D3's prior to buying a MkII suddenly became incapable of adapting to a camera that was fundamentally the same as they were already using? Unlikely, don't you think?
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Just to add to this Gaz, I picked up the 5D III today to replace my 6D, just gave it a quick this evening and I must say it is identical pretty much to the 7D II specially in button layout and Menus, I've basically copied the settings and case modes across from my 7DII across to the 5DIII and seems to be working a treat, can't comment on focus difference etc. yet as I have only had ago indoors but looking forward to taking it out to Norfolk this weekend to have a play. But I agree with your point, 5DIII & 7DII are pretty much identical in near all ways setting and menu wise so it pretty much impossible of going from the 5DIII to the 7DII and being unable of using it correctly.

Joe
 
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And yet when I first had my 1DX and was using it alongside my 5DIII I couldn't get consistently good results out of it. It took me a couple of months before I started being happy with the camera.

Being similar in layout/menus/number of AF points, doesn't mean they are identical underneath and I do think that some (not all) people thought they could just pick it up and get the best out of it straight away and maybe gave up too quickly, especially after reading about focus issues. It's understandable as well, I wanted to give up on my 1DX many times but the wife wouldn't let me, and she was right (don't tell her I said that).
 
Toggerman said:
And yet when I first had my 1DX and was using it alongside my 5DIII I couldn't get consistently good results out of it. It took me a couple of months before I started being happy with the camera.

Being similar in layout/menus/number of AF points, doesn't mean they are identical underneath and I do think that some (not all) people thought they could just pick it up and get the best out of it straight away and maybe gave up too quickly, especially after reading about focus issues. It's understandable as well, I wanted to give up on my 1DX many times but the wife wouldn't let me, and she was right (don't tell her I said that).
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I'm not saying that some people just expected it to work out of the box and jumped on the AF bandwagon but to imply that everyone just didn't know how to use it is just silly.

Obviously you weren't ready for a sophisticated camera like the 1DX. Fortunately your wife knew you'd get there in the end :)
 
Gaz J said:
Obviously you weren't ready for a sophisticated camera like the 1DX. Fortunately your wife knew you'd get there in the end :)
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But isn't the 5DIII just as sophisticated, seeing as:
Gaz J said:
incapable of adapting to a camera that was fundamentally the same as they were already using?
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It was just a different camera. Despite having a lot of things in common with the 5DIII it didn't behave exactly like my 5DIII.
 
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Toggerman said:
But isn't the 5DIII just as sophisticated, seeing as:

It was just a different camera. Despite having a lot of things in common with the 5DIII it didn't behave exactly like my 5DIII.
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But you did adapt although youre the first photographer I've heard of that has had that particular issue.Some tried for several months to get what they wanted from a MkII without success. When I bought my 1DX it was pretty much a seamless changeover, just getting to know the extra buttons etc. I had downloaded the manual for the 1DX some time before I bought one and did the same with the MkII. I had also downloaded all the AF info prior to buying the cameras.

It does seem that the early batches were a bit iffy on quality control. I would possibly buy another if I started doing Motorsport again, as I thought it was pretty good at that, but that's not likely to happen in the near future.
 
Gaz J said:
But you did adapt although youre the first photographer I've heard of that has had that particular issue.
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Really? I find it somewhat implausible that everyone else can pick up any camera and instantly be getting the best out of it. Just to clarify, static and general stuff was ok with the 1DX from day 1, it was the motorsport that took a while to get to the same level I was at with the 5DIII and 1DIII. Every one of the 21 cameras I've owned in the last few years has taken some getting used to in order to extract the very best out of them.

Gaz J said:
I had downloaded the manual for the 1DX some time before I bought one and did the same with the MkII. I had also downloaded all the AF info prior to buying the cameras.
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Me too, but it doesn't tell you how the camera handles.
 
Toggerman said:
Really? I find it somewhat implausible that everyone else can pick up any camera and instantly be getting the best out of it. Just to clarify, static and general stuff was ok with the 1DX from day 1, it was the motorsport that took a while to get to the same level I was at with the 5DIII and 1DIII. Every one of the 21 cameras I've owned in the last few years has taken some getting used to in order to extract the very best out of them.



Me too, but it doesn't tell you how the camera handles.
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Thats a lot of cameras.

I guess I must have been lucky as I got on well with my 1DX from day 1. In fact the first time I used it other than to set my lenses up was on a trip to Scotland to photograph Ospreys and it was flawless from the off.

Pretty much the same for the 5D3 when I had one. I felt it was comfortably better than the 1DMkIV and again i had great results from day 1 with it.

In fact I would go as far as to say that I found both the 1DX and 5D3 have given overall the best images I've ever taken without any real effort on my part.

But we are all different and after 10000 frames through the MkII I couldn't get what I wanted from it for wildlife.

Maybe when I retire next year I will have time to do more Motorsport and will get another one just for that.
 
Gaz J said:
Thats a lot of cameras.

I guess I must have been lucky as I got on well with my 1DX from day 1.....
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It was the same for me and I ordered a second one within a week of the first one arriving....it just did it.

Bob
 
Gaz J said:
Thats a lot of cameras.
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Yep, the wife and I totted them up a little while ago, and that's only been in 7 years :naughty:. That has included some cameras that I only had for a couple of weeks and sent back due to issues or quickly sold on because I didn't like them, and 3 got smashed.

Gaz J said:
I guess I must have been lucky as I got on well with my 1DX from day 1.
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I also think it depends on how you use them as well. I've been told that I 'dance' with my camera at the track and I certainly do seem to be more active than most of the people I shoot next to. It's amazing I'm not fitter.

Gaz J said:
Pretty much the same for the 5D3 when I had one.
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5DIII I had no trouble with, was fairly good from the start and didn't take much time to get used to it. 1DIII, 70Ds and 2nd 7DI was the same too. Some cameras just take me awhile to get the feel for them.

Gaz J said:
But we are all different and after 10000 frames through the MkII I couldn't get what I wanted from it for wildlife.
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Couldn't agree more and that's same the reason why I got rid of some of my cameras, they just didn't suit what and how I was shooting at the time.
 
Shot a football match under floodlights (top division pro level lights so they were OK) with my new 7dmkii last night all at ISO3200 - very different experience looking at the pics in Lightroom afterwards compared to my 1dx or 5dmkiii - 7d mkii images would be fine to publish in a newspaper but it's just as well I'm not normally a pixel peeper.

Good points - AI servo focus on the 7d mkii is very, very good - not quite as good as 1dx but pretty close, 10fps is excellent too. Camera is really well built and handles really well - much better build quality than my 5d mkiii. Reach is great with 1.6 crop - took a bit of getting used to as it's been a while since I used a crop camera.

Bad points - That the images out of the camera are miles away from what a 5dmkiii produces at the same high ISO, but they are useable, they are a fair bit better than the mk1 - if I'd never eperienced a 5d mkiii or 1dx I'd have been happy with the results

Looking forward to using it again while shooting Saturday's football in daylight - that's the deal breaker - I bought it to have two cameras with high frame rates and autofocus (can't afford a second 1dx at the moment) - if the images I get with it at the weekend are OK then it will stay in the bag - though the 5dmkii will come with me to night games in case it's needed.
 
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Evening matches are where the 7DII falls down for me too. TBH I don't find ~ISO3200 to be that bad, but where I shoot the lights are pants and I'm usually around ISO12800. What I do find annoying is the anti-flicker on the 7DII is brilliant and keeps the colours more consistent under the lights than the 1DX does, but it just can't handle the noise as well, so I sometimes get torn between which camera I want to shoot with.
 
Having read nothing but glowing reviews about this Camera the price on Panamoz seems absolutely stonking. Suffice to say I should see a big improvement upgrading from my Canon 700D? I'd be interested in getting a Canon 100-400mk2 or a Tamron 150-600 if I took the plunge... does the 7Dmk2 get on with both these lenses or suit one better than the other?

My only slight reservation is that I'm a landscape photographer at heart, although I'm becoming more and more interested in wildlife and motorsport photography so I guess this Camera should suit me?
 
100-400 MkII is a lovely lens on any camera. Never used the tamron or any of the other brands in that zoom range. Obviously if ultimate reach is your goal then the Canon can't compete but if image quality, build quality, speed of focus are important to you then it stands out. It's very sharp wide open and although pricey I haven't heard anyone say a bad word about this lens.
 
I've been using my 7D2 for more and more videos recently while using my 5D3 for stills. I'm really impressed with the video output from the 7D2 and expect to be even busier with it soon as I've just ordered the 55-250 STM too. I would really like to get back shooting wildlife and aircraft with the 7D2 but some back problems have put a stop to it for now. The 7D2 is a cracking all rounder giving excellent IQ and fantastic video results too. I have recently been asked for some of my videos of a couple of bands, taken with the 7D2, to be used in a TV broadcast in Cambridge so obviously the producers think the quality is good enough. I love my 7D2, apart from my 5D3 it's the best camera I've used and I've had quite a few crop frame bodies including 2 7D's and a 1D3.
 
smr said:
Having read nothing but glowing reviews about this Camera the price on Panamoz seems absolutely stonking. Suffice to say I should see a big improvement upgrading from my Canon 700D? I'd be interested in getting a Canon 100-400mk2 or a Tamron 150-600 if I took the plunge... does the 7Dmk2 get on with both these lenses or suit one better than the other?

My only slight reservation is that I'm a landscape photographer at heart, although I'm becoming more and more interested in wildlife and motorsport photography so I guess this Camera should suit me?
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I used the 100-400 MkII exclusively on my 7D2 for the first couple of months and it's given me some fantastic photos. The only reason I took it off eventually was to do some video work with it and then I damaged a nerve in my back and can't get out with it at the moment but I really can't wait to get out with it and get some more wildlife shots now the autumn has arrived. Not used the Tamron with any camera so I can't comment on it. I have used a Sigma 150-500 OS and also the Canon 100-400 MkI on the 7D2, while waiting for the 100-400 MkII to arrive, and got some really good photos with both of them. The 100-400 MkI producing marginally better results than the Sigma but the 100-400 MkII tops both of them.
 
smr said:
I'd be interested in getting a Canon 100-400mk2 or a Tamron 150-600 if I took the plunge... does the 7Dmk2 get on with both these lenses or suit one better than the other?

My only slight reservation is that I'm a landscape photographer at heart, although I'm becoming more and more interested in wildlife and motorsport photography so I guess this Camera should suit me?
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I wouldn't personally be looking at a Canon crop camera if landscapes were my thing- I'd be looking at a Fuji/Nikon/Sony sensor- or at least a full frame Canon. There's some very cheap Fuji bodies around- and they only really like the AF and frame rate of the top end bodies- image quality is the same.

I have the big Tamron. Image quality and build quality are fine. Not the best tracking AF in the world- but I think that's the reality of an f6.3 lens rather than a quality issue.
 
smr said:
My only slight reservation is that I'm a landscape photographer at heart, although I'm becoming more and more interested in wildlife and motorsport photography so I guess this Camera should suit me?
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All my Landscape stuff was shot on a 7D MK1 so I don't see a problem going for the MK2 :)


* I bought a 6D but that was driven by going to Iceland for the Aurora, the 7D was to noisey for astro stuff IMO etc ;)
 
At £800 I'm very tempted to give it another go! I had 2 bodies within the first couple of months of release and both were inconsistent with AF in burst. It seems like Canon have got on top of that issue... because if AF was half consistent in burst mod (8-10fps) it would be a very handy body to have! For me though it's a shame no wifi... but can workaround that by removing the card and plugging into my phone via USB OTG... wifi preferred though. Very useful on my 70D.
 
If it's just for transferring files, I've got a Toshiba Flashair WiFi SD card in mine and it works a treat.
 
modchild said:
I've been using my 7D2 for more and more videos recently while using my 5D3 for stills. I'm really impressed with the video output from the 7D2 and expect to be even busier with it soon as I've just ordered the 55-250 STM too. I would really like to get back shooting wildlife and aircraft with the 7D2 but some back problems have put a stop to it for now. The 7D2 is a cracking all rounder giving excellent IQ and fantastic video results too. I have recently been asked for some of my videos of a couple of bands, taken with the 7D2, to be used in a TV broadcast in Cambridge so obviously the producers think the quality is good enough. I love my 7D2, apart from my 5D3 it's the best camera I've used and I've had quite a few crop frame bodies including 2 7D's and a 1D3.
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What settings do you use for video?
 
Used it again on Saturday for a football match in decent light - really don't like the images for football, which is not really fair on my part because I'm comparing them with a 1dk and 5d mkiii - the one thing I've gained from buying the 7d mkii is an appreciation for how good the 5d mkii pics are (1dx are even better but that's totally unfair comparison) - Bit sad about it as I really wanted to like the 7d.
 
Toggerman said:
Evening matches are where the 7DII falls down for me too. TBH I don't find ~ISO3200 to be that bad, but where I shoot the lights are pants and I'm usually around ISO12800. What I do find annoying is the anti-flicker on the 7DII is brilliant and keeps the colours more consistent under the lights than the 1DX does, but it just can't handle the noise as well, so I sometimes get torn between which camera I want to shoot with.
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Got to agree 100%, under lower league floodlights it really does struggle. Anything outside the box with a 70-200 is virtually impossible. I've got loads at 12800 and upwards which are OK for looking at on an iPhone or iPad (other brands are available), but wouldn't want to print!
 
Spiderdudeuk said:
Got to agree 100%, under lower league floodlights it really does struggle. Anything outside the box with a 70-200 is virtually impossible. I've got loads at 12800 and upwards which are OK for looking at on an iPhone or iPad (other brands are available), but wouldn't want to print!
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Not just lower league floodlights I photograph top division football so lights are pretty good - Saturday was a bright overcast day - perfect weather for shooting football.

Pics I got were 'OK' for the paper (there's a couple been published today) - but I don't want just OK for the paper - if I catch a bit of action correctly I want the pic to look great to me and the picture desk paper.

The 5d mkiii can be frustrating with the slower frame rate but at least when you get something it looks good - love the 1.6x crop on the 7d when looking through the viewfinder at action at other end of the pitch - but looking at the pics is soul destroying.
 
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Toggerman said:
Anything in particular that's wrong with them or is it more just the overall look?
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Really just don't like them - images look a little soft to me (not out of focus) and skin doesn't look as smooth as I'd like - different to the 7d mki I had a while ago but still not to my liking. Ah well lesson learned - I thought I could go back to a crop sensor but appears I can't
 
davidy233 said:
Really just don't like them - images look a little soft to me (not out of focus) and skin doesn't look as smooth as I'd like - different to the 7d mki I had a while ago but still not to my liking. Ah well lesson learned - I thought I could go back to a crop sensor but appears I can't
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I'm toying with adding a 5d III to my cameras for both landscape and evening/winter football. Maybe slower frame rate, but coped with the 600d frame rate for long enough.
 
Spiderdudeuk said:
I'm toying with adding a 5d III to my cameras for both landscape and evening/winter football. Maybe slower frame rate, but coped with the 600d frame rate for long enough.
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5D III is a really nice camera, use one along side the 7DII, would beat it for landscapes with its FF Sensor, 7D II AF, fps all those kind of things blow the 5DIII out the water from what I have found.
 
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