Canon 6D or Nixon D750?

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I have been lurking on here for some time. I know this is my first post but I really could do with your advice please.
I currently have a Canon 600D looking to upgrade to a full frame camera. I have been looking at the Canon 6D 24-105 for some time but now I have the money to purchase one I have seen that for an additional £235 I could get a Nikon D750 24-120 (both from Panamo zI realise these are grey imports)
The reason for a full frame is less noisy pictures in low light. I like to take pictures of wildlife, pets, landscapes and Tennis.
I only have a nifty 50 from my current kit that I could use on the Canon 6D, so I am not tied to Canon, but I am familiar with the controls, although I am apprehensive of the change. I don’t know anyone who I could swap lenses with so again no preference there.
I would love to get a 5D Mk III but think I should spend the extra on home improvements, seeing as photography is just a hobby. Will I regret not taking this opportunity to get the camera I really want/ aspire to?
Have many people bought a 6D and then upgraded to a 5D within a short space of time. Similarly with the D750 to the Nikon equivalent of the 5D.
Please could I have your thoughts?
 
Without a doubt the D750. In terms of performance the Canon equiv of the D750 is the 5D3.
 
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I guess it depends on what you shoot and how much you want to spend. I've had a 6D for quite a while and still really like it. I had the money for a 5D3 but not the inclination to spend it :) and I have no need of super fast AF or high burst rates. On paper the 750 looks a better camera but it should be as you're paying quite a bit more for it.
 
I switched from 5D mk1 to 6D about 18months ago, much as I'd have loved the 1/8000th, more focus points, & dual slots, I preferred the £1000 in my pocket and the built in Wifi & GPS. I also preferred the lighter weight too. Only time I've hit the 1/4000 limit is as I'd originally anticipated which was shooting with a friends F1.2 lens in daylight and trying to shoot the damned thing wide open. But no, no desire to change to a 5D3 as it doesn't limit me in any way.

Had a Nikon D800E through my hands recently, still don't find the Nikon interface intuitive, whereas I find I can pick most stuff up and work my way round the menus quickly. I just find myself swearing at the Nikons.

Only temptation like many others currently, is pondering the XT1 and Sony a7 as full on weight saving but just watching as the systems mature.
 
I had the same dilemma and went with the 6D, a decision based largely on lens choice for each camera and price for the landscape photography I do

The Nikon 14-24 is an awesome lens but
- it's too expensive for me
- my expensive set of Lee filters are utterly useless with it
- buying more specialist filters would be a lot more expense
- you can't fit a UV filter to protect the front element

I've just ordered a Canon 16-35 f4 lens which by all accounts is a great lens for the price

I've upgraded to full frame and bought a decent wide angle zoom all for less than the price of a D750 and I'm sure my new kit will do a great job
 
D750 is easily the better camera, but Canon lead the way with decent (affordable) glass.

I own a 6D but would have chosen the D750 if it was available at the time and if I did not already own so many nice Canon lenses. Nikon sells better cameras at most price points, but Canon wins on lenses. Tough call.
 
You have posted that you like wildlife pets tennis and landscapes. I would look at a 7dmk2 I know it's aps-c sensor but it ticks three of your genre better than a 6d imho.
Best thing I would do is go and try them out see which suits you
 
Jonnybrad2001 said:
Had a Nikon D800E through my hands recently, still don't find the Nikon interface intuitive, whereas I find I can pick most stuff up and work my way round the menus quickly. I just find myself swearing at the Nikons.
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This is what worries me. When I have a playwith the Nikons in the shops I just can't find the settings I am looking for. Anyone else made the switch?
 
wave01 said:
You have posted that you like wildlife pets tennis and landscapes. I would look at a 7dmk2 I know it's aps-c sensor but it ticks three of your genre better than a 6d imho.
Best thing I would do is go and try them out see which suits you
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I like the idea of a full frame camera. Although I like the length the crop sensor gives, I avoid taking out the camera when the light is dodgy so a camera that does everything is what I am looking for. I am considering hiring a longer zoom lens for when I go to the tennis!
Thanks for your comments though.
 
gti jen said:
This is what worries me. When I have a playwith the Nikons in the shops I just can't find the settings I am looking for. Anyone else made the switch?
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I switch systems a lot, Canon, Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Olympus, Panasonic. Its not an issue in my opinion, I only need to go through the menus once to sort out my custom controls then it works like every other camera Ive ever used, never got the whole different menu argument to be honest.
 
I wouldn't buy a Nixon.
 
twist said:
Do they? Care to name a few of those?
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He probably meant the likes of the Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x macro, Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L tilt shift, Canon TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II Tilt Shift, Canon 50mm f/1.2L, etc.
 
odd jim said:
He probably meant the likes of the Canon MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x macro, Canon TS-E 17mm f/4L tilt shift, Canon TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II Tilt Shift, Canon 50mm f/1.2L, etc.
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Thats more 'specialist' thats not 'decent affordable glass' so I dont think thats what he meant.
 
twist said:
Thats more 'specialist' thats not 'decent affordable glass' so I dont think thats what he meant.
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Ok, what do you think he meant then? (the 50mm isnt specialist btw...)

Here's a few more of where Canon lead on the lens front;

- Canon EF 500mm f/4.0L IS USM
- Canon EF 135mm f/2.0L USM
- Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM
- Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS USM
- Canon EF 200/1.8L USM
- Canon EF 600mm f/4.0L IS USM

Canon is the camp to be in for available lenses, its really down to whether the OP will take advantage of that.
 
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odd jim said:
Ok, what do you think he meant then? (the 50mm isnt specialist btw...)
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Isnt it? I dont see average Joe buying an f1.2 lens, and its hardly one of Canons most affordable lenses.

I think he means lenses like 1.8 primes or cheaper zooms. Decent affordable lenses.
 
twist said:
Isnt it? I dont see average Joe buying an f1.2 lens, and its hardly one of Canons most affordable lenses.

I think he means lenses like 1.8 primes or cheaper zooms. Decent affordable lenses.
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Canon has the edge there too, especially with the increased availability of used bargains. There's simply more out there.
 
Lol.... sure they do.

You clearly havent looked at Nikons range or prices or the lens performance.
 
Thnaks for the discussion over lenses. Are their more Canon lenses as Canon is more popular brand?
Personally as I'm not a Pro I'm not too worried about the selection of lenses, the chances are that I expect I will just keep the 24-105 on it, and may occasionally hire a longer zoom lens. Unless I manage to some how sell some of my imagaes then maybe I could invest in some other glass, but thats a whole other post!

Thanks all, despite the votes for the Nikon, I am still leaning towards the Canon.
 
gti jen said:
Thnaks for the discussion over lenses. Are their more Canon lenses as Canon is more popular brand?
Personally as I'm not a Pro I'm not too worried about the selection of lenses, the chances are that I expect I will just keep the 24-105 on it, and may occasionally hire a longer zoom lens. Unless I manage to some how sell some of my imagaes then maybe I could invest in some other glass, but thats a whole other post!

Thanks all, despite the votes for the Nikon, I am still leaning towards the Canon.
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Jen, I can vouch for the 6d and the 24-105, its one of my most used combos. The 6d also has a stunning low light / high iso sensor (in fact, its probably the best sensor Canon has produced to date).

There are more Canon lenses on the used market, as mentioned, Canon have been the market leader on the lens side for a long time and this wont change too soon! There are plenty of used bargains out there on both, but there generally tends to be more availabilities and quantity on the Canon front.
 
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odd jim said:
Jen, I can vouch for the 6d and the 24-105, its one of my most used combos. The 6d also has a stunning low light / high iso sensor (in fact, its probably the best sensor Canon has produced to date).

There are more Canon lenses on the used market, as mentioned, Canon have been the market leader on the lens side for a long time and this wont change too soon! There are plenty of used bargains out there on both, but there generally tends to be more availabilities and quantity on the Canon front.
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Do you watch the Nikon used market much then?
 
twist said:
Do you watch the Nikon used market much then?
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Why wouldn't I? You've assumed that because I use Canon I'm a Canon fanboy and don't use anything else. I watch the whole market - because I buy what I need, no matter what badge is on it :) At the moment, that's Canon and Fuji. I also use Nikon and Canon at work. My personal choice, for when I'm spending my own money is Canon and Fuji.

I'm not sure why you're continuing to argue this point?

The OP has clarified she's not worried about the selection of lenses per se, pointing out the main need which is the 24-105. Of which Canon's is excellent and I can vouch for it.
 
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odd jim said:
Why wouldn't I? You've assumed that because I use Canon I'm a Canon fanboy and don't use anything else. I watch the whole market - because I buy what I need, no matter what badge is on it :) At the moment, that's Canon and Fuji. I also use Nikon and Canon at work.

I'm not sure why you're continuing to argue this point?

The OP has said she's not worried about the selection of lenses per se, pointing out the main need which is the 24-105. Of which Canon's is excellent.
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Not at all, you just dont seem to know much about Nikons range of decent affordable very high scoring lenses. Youre putting your point across about the used market like its fact, but honestly Ive never really ever struggled to find any Nikon lens on the used market in any condition. Both systems are well catered for.

Agreed, the 24-105 is a good all rounder.

As a point regarding decent affordable lenses... in terms of primes you have...

Nikon
20mm 2.8
20mm 1.8G

Canon
20mm 2.8

Nikon
24mm 2.8

Canon
24mm 2.8

Nikon
28mm 2.8
28mm 1.8G

Canon
28mm 2.8
28mm 1.8

Nikon
35mm 2
35mm 1.8G

Canon
35mm 2

Nikon
50mm 1.8
50mm 1.8G
50mm 1.4G

Canon
50mm 1.8
50mm 1.4

Nikon
85mm 1.8G

Canon
85mm 1.8

Also, check the DXO scores for the G lenses.

OP, the 6D is superb in terms of sensor performance, may want to look at the AF side of things.
 
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I've owned both and the D750 is much, much better camera in my humble opinion.
 
The AF on the 6d is fine. It may lack the AF points but the ones it uses are quick, and can AF in low light better than any camera I've used (not surprising as it has a current class leading AF sensitivity of -3 ev).

I surprised myself by using it for sports - I didn't buy it to use it for sports (I have "faster" crops for that) but took a punt as the IQ is so good. It worked an absolute treat and unless I need more than 5fps I now always reach for the 6d over "faster" cameras.
 
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UaeExile said:
I've owned both and the D750 is much, much better camera in my humble opinion.
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The direct comparison to the 6d would be the Nikon d610. The d750 is spec'd a notch higher, 'level' with the Canon 5d3. Just for the OP to consider.
 
Indeed, just re-enforcing that as I don't remember the d610 being mentioned by the OP. Might be a good option if she decides on Nikon as it's not as expensive as the d750.

That might help her decision as she should be comparing the 6d with the d610, like for like.
 
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Thanks guys, I was only mentioning the D750 as the price was only £235 more than the 6D. I have discounted the D610 as I don't like the look of it, the info screen on the back looked like a digital calculator!. A bit basic. The display on the D750 is much better (at least the Zeros are the same size as the other digits). I know it shouldn't be about looks but think thats one of the reasons I chose the Canon over a Nikon when I bought my first DSLR, oh and the fact my mate let me borrow his and I liked it and knew how it worked!

Unfortunately I don't know anyone with either camera I am looking at, and just having a play in a shop where I have no intention of buying hasn't helped. I don't want to spend £120 on rental. So thought I would ask on here.
 
odd jim said:
The direct comparison to the 6d would be the Nikon d610. The d750 is spec'd a notch higher, 'level' with the Canon 5d3. Just for the OP to consider.
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Yeah I'd agree with that.
 
FWIW, I have just picked up a Canon 6D having moved from Nikon D800E and D810 bodies, sorry, I cannot comment on D750.

But I can comment on Canon vs Nikon systems. (Prior to the 6D I owned 40D, 60D, 5D1-3, 1D3, 1Ds2&3, 7D1&2 bodies I must add).

Of relevance, I have to say that the high iso performance of 6D is outstanding by just about any measure.

As has been mentioned the AF ability of 6D is quite limited in terms of AF points and coverage but the centre point at least allows very fast and accurate focussing.

As for lenses, build quality aside, unless you are looking at supertelephotos I think Sigma make most of the best lenses nowadays anyway ! The Canon lenses that I think are worth having are: 10-22, 17-40L, 28f2.8IS, 24-70f4IS, 400DO. I appreciate that there are many fine lenses in both camps, of course.

My new favourite, I have just had a play with my new Canon 24-70f4IS and am astonshed at how sharp it is wide open. Definitely a keeper.
 
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