Canon 6D ...help!!!

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I had a canon 450D but upgraded to a 6D
Its so much harder to use, not even sure ive set it up right.
My pics with old camera were much better, I cant get a sharp crisp picture with my new one :(
First pic is old camera, and 2nd pic new
 

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What lenses and settings are you using? You should be getting much better images from the 6d!
 
Its not much more complicated that the 600d I had, a few more menus and options yes, but basically the same setup (but ISO is so much better, lot less noise).

What are your focus points set up as? Perhaps you have it set for all focus points, it'll pick up the nearest object instead of what your actually aiming at.

Have you checked you havent got finger smudges on the lens? (either end)
 
I find manuals from Canon don't actually explain why you would do something. I have bought guides to them. Very helpful. They are red and white covered... Can't remember the name and not able to go and look now... :)
 
They may not be the best manuals, but they will tell you how to change to focus settings. Let face, it the 6D certainly doesn't have a complex focus system.
 
friesianfan69 said:
No finger smudges.
How do I set up the focus points ( sorry )
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You definitely need to read hue manual :)

The focus point set up is the same as your old camera!
 
I had a dud 6D so if needed get some help to check your camera out properly, sent mine back for a refund, couldn't get a good photo from it

Knew mine wasn't user error, think I even posted some comparison pics on this site at the time. Use a lens that is known to be ok and if possible mount it on a tripod with a remote release and mirror up to minimise any movement

Probably just something simple, but you need to know for definite, post the photos here for a second opinion, good luck
 
Those 2 horses above?

The first one is in bright contrasty light, the second is in shade. Your camera needs areas of contrast to focus, you need some contrast in an image to see it as 'sharp'.

That's the easy bit, read the manual, shoot some more, post some more, ask questions. But as above, the 6d isn't massively different to the 450d
 
Looks like it might be front/back focussing.

Edit, ignore this. Now I've looked at it on the computer rather than iphone I can see this is not the case ;)
 
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snerkler said:
Looks like it might be front/back focussing.
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Tbh this sounds like user error and a settings issue.

Even if it were front / back focusing that would more likely be a lens issue, but I can't see evidence of that in the image posted - the whole image is soft which makes me think poor settings with a poor lens.
 
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You will fix the issue with 6D sooner or later, i think it is the lenses and the settings as it was mentioned, 6D is way better than 450D, if you managed to have great results with 450D then definitely you will have more with 6D, just give it a time, answer members questions about your lenses/settings and you will be there in no time.
 
Chipper said:
I find manuals from Canon don't actually explain why you would do something
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I had the same experience recently when I bought a new cooker, the manual that came with it did not teach me how to cook.
 
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Those two photos are totally different in the way that any camera would handle them ,first bright sunlight ,second in the shade ,without exif data it would be pointless to try to comment .are you shooting raw or j.peg for a starter .l suggest reading the manual and a being more explicit when asking for help by giving settings that were used .
 
Hi sorry I've not been online to reply.
I'm still very novice around the photography thing as you may of noticed.
I've read the manual again and again but can't find what I'm doing wrong :(
I'll look at photos in a bit and see what setting camera was on but I think it was tv and 1,800 and auto ISO.
Af ( if that's what you mean ).
What is front / back doc using? And how do I alter it? I also noticed I can't change auto lighting optimiser?
It's not highlighted on the screen and when I scroll down it jumps over it!?
 
What lens are you using? It looks to me like a poor quality lens you've put on the 6d. The 6d will punish a poor lens and there's no point having a 6d unless the lenses are up to the task! With possibly a UV filter attached?

Those settings are wrong for the static horse. You don't need anything nearly as fast as 1/1800, you could get away with quite a slow shutter speed.

Your settings should be something along the lines of f4 to f8 (depending how isolated you want the horse to be from the background) and you can use ISO 100 (lowest ISO).

I think the best thing for you to do is maybe to watch some basic tutorials on YouTube?
 
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The lens yesterday was my sigma 70-300 but the previous pics which have been the same and carp quality were with the lens I bought with it,
The canon Ef 24-105 f/4
 
friesianfan69 said:
The lens yesterday was my sigma 70-300 but the previous pics which have been the same and carp quality were with the lens I bought with it,
The canon Ef 24-105 f/4
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The 24-105l is a good lens. I take it you don't have a uv filter? If you do take it off! The Sigma 70-300 isn't great though.

Use centre focus point, try f/5.6 ISO 200 for static or slow moving horses and go from there.

Are you shooting raw or JPEG? And how are you processing?

I'd seriously think about reading understanding exposure or some YouTube videos!
 
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Take that horse into the field on the hill in the background in the second image (where the sun is shining) and you IQ will improve.
 
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friesianfan69 said:
The lens yesterday was my sigma 70-300
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I have a Sigma 70-300 APO and it is probably the slowest focussing AF lens ever made, and that is in good light, in poor lighting it is quicker to manual focus the thing or it will miss focus as shown in the second photo.
 
ecoleman said:
The sigma 79-300 isn't a very good lens
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Agreed, The Sigma is a budget lens but it can produce images that are better than the results in the 2nd photo shows and in the same conditions.
When using budget gear it is vital that you learn the weaknesses of the kit and formulate strategies to get the best out of it. If the OP had used BBF or manual focus then focus on a specific point then hit the button when the horse reached that point the shot would have been in focus.

We see so many "what's the best setting" posts here, too many camera owners fail to understand that cameras are not a set up and forget device. Good photographers understand the subject, evaluate the light, and weigh up the location because they understand how these can affect the look of the final image.
 
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Take that horse into the field on the hill in the background in the second image (where the sun is shining) and you IQ will improve.
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Totally agree, so much depends on the light no matter what camera you use
 
friesianfan69 said:
I think it was tv and 1,800 and auto ISO
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:eek: 1800th of a second is very fast, that would mean the ISO is way up and you would get noise in the image. I would suggest using shutter speeds in the range 100-800ish and when you half press the shutter button just look at the ISO the camera has selected (it appears in the viewfinder). While the 6D is very good in low light/high ISO you really want the ISO to be below 1000 for best image quality
 
@friesianfan69 what ISO was the second shot taken at? Remember that dynamic range reduces as ISO increases so at high ISO images can look flat and lacking in contrast.
 
snerkler said:
@friesianfan69 what ISO was the second shot taken at? Remember that dynamic range reduces as ISO increases so at high ISO images can look flat and lacking in contrast.
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Even at very high ISO the 6d still looks very good.

I definitely think this is a lens / focus issue.

The whole shot to me looks as if the element as been covered in KY jelly!
 
I recommend not using AI Focus. This is canon's attempt to have the autofocus try and work out if the subject is moving or stationary. In my experience it has never been very good at it.

Moving subject - AI Servo
Stationary subject - One Shot AF
 
I recommend not using AI Focus. This is canon's attempt to have the autofocus try and work out if the subject is moving or stationary. In my experience it has never been very good at it.
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Totally agree, I've never had any luck with it either
 
Nothing in the image looks remotely sharp, poster needs to try again with both lenses and post results as the 24-105 is a decent lens also, and if hes suffering similar results to the Sigma it may indicate problems witht the 6D, I have the same body and never suffered with images as soft as this even in poor light and high iso and with the 24-105, agree A1 Focus is not the best way to go A1 Servo or One Shot as commented on is better, it could be that which is causing the poor focus

Gord
 
Thankyou for all your comments, I took some pics yesterday but not had a chance to look yet.
But will look in to the al servo to.
 
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