Canon 60D

Actually I take that back it isn't less buttons they've just shaped them in

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and made them easier to operate or (hot with your thumb :D)

MB
 
its a shame they have done away with the joystick, the circular part around the set button seems to be the replacement for it
One of the great features of my 40D that makes it so usable is that I can very quickly move the AF point around the frame

I having been waiting with bated breath for the 60D as my next camera as the 7D is a bit out of my pocket.
I will have to start saving as it looks like the 7D is after all the 50D replacement

I wanted my next camera to have the same superb low ISO noise level as the 40D but be better at high ISO (in the winter I spend a lot of time shooting at 800-1600) and a few more megapixels looks like the 7D is the best canon crop offering for what I need
Pete
 
Is it just me or does it look like someone in R&D has been playing pin the tail on the donkey with the button layout.
 
Ignore the price no comparisons can really be made until they have settled to final retail levels, anyone who buys one on release day is a muppet.

Beyond price the 60D is exactly what I've been wanting, a smaller lighter DSLR that retains the jog wheel. The move to SD cards is inevitable as they free up loads of space for the designers to shave off mm and cram in extra features and the articulated screen is a feature that will become more and more common in these live view and video enabled days. The AF system is perfectly adequate for the majority of users, yes it would be nice to have a million focus points but it's not a necessity. This is the first camera to make my potential upgrade list and may well be the one that replaces my 30D when the price drops.
 
The in camera editing is nothing new, though maybe the amount of things you can alter is. It may come into its own when attached to a large monitor, and luckily the 60D has an HDMI socket. Editing on the LCD screen though could be slow and tedious depending on what you wanted to do imho. In the two years I've had a camera with the facility to edit in camera, I've used it less than a handful of times, and that was just to see how it worked. :shrug: Same with video, had that for about six months and haven't used it.

If I were interested in video though, the 60D at least seems to have all the quality levels one would which for unlike most of the Nikon video equipped cameras up to now. :bonk:
 
mid_gen said:
60D isn't the upgrade from the 50D you expected? Get a 7D. It's pretty obvious!
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It appears not to be that obvious to a hell of a lot of people, all of whom seemed to think that Canon were going to take a 7D, replace the label with one that said '60D' and sell it for £700.

But it's the same with every new camera. The 7D's release saw hordes of people moaning that is wasn't full-frame. Now we see people whinging about the lack of MFA and Mg and a few fps. Here's the bit of DPReview's preview that everybody should read -


the 60D has been repositioned in the market, so isn't a simple upgrade to its predecessor​
 
what a pile of $hite :(
ive got a 50d and was in two minds like alot of people about the 'next step on the upgrade ladder' but im definately upgrading to a 7d now!!
 
So i'll be sticking with my 50D for a while longer. Not interested in the video just yet. Will spend my money on upgrading my lenses
 
westley byford said:
what a pile of $hite :(
ive got a 50d and was in two minds like alot of people about the 'next step on the upgrade ladder' but im definately upgrading to a 7d now!!
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Looks like Canon's marketing strategy is working already.
 
Canon Bob said:
AF Micro-adjustment isn't an option anymore unless the spec page is wrong. Unusual move to discontinue a feature from the previous version.

Bob
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ya but they have removed the mag body it not the same camera its a new camera and the line from 50D has stopped.
 
SD cards what the hell is that all about?? Screen is a bad idea and it's looks awful, looks very cheap, if your paying over a grand you don't want a plastic body, very disappointed! If Canon make start making more cameras like this then Nikon will profit.
 
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Surprised, nobody has mentioned the 'toy camera effect'

with a range of creative filters such as toy camera effect
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:D
 
Just picked this bit of info up, the 60D will have Adjustable Auto ISO limit. Great feature to have. Although the people who buy this camera won't be using it because there all busy taking out of focus videos, but they don't have to worry about oof because its in HD.
 
The 7D was always going to be the successor to the XX line as they obviously had the future in mind when they wanted to go with a XD, XXD & XXXD range of cameras. So there had to be some reshuffling going on there.

I wasn't expecting much out of it, however I'm a little surprised they dropped the magnesium alloy - other than that I'm not surprised. I was never going to buy it anyway, I was always looking towards a 7D.

But it's all extremely logical, those who are moaning about it as it's an upgrade to the 50D and being worse, take note - it isn't an upgrade. The upgrade for the 50D that everyone was seeking came out months ago.. that's the 7D.

My only real concern is the fact there isn't really much that separates this from the 550D, other than the swivel screen and improved controls?
 
This isn't an upgrade for the 50D, it's an upgrade for the 450D, 500D and 550D.

I can see lots of XXXD users going for this instead of a 7D... It's still an improvement over the XXXD but not as big of a jump as to 7D...

Personally, only think I wish they included was the micro adjustments...
 
guybrush said:
Is the current 7D not good enough for you then?
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It's more than good enough but I don't feel the need to upgrade everytime Canon change the packaging. By the time the 7D gets an update maybe my 50D will need replacing, if not I will wait to the MKiii.
 
trencheel303 said:
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So many people nowadays are just happy to buy crap, on the premise that it can be replaced with more crap when it breaks.
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How very true in all consumer products!!
 
Looks I won't be upgrading to the 600D and will be jumping straight to the 9D instead

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With this move in the XXD series, anyone on a starter DSLR model thinking of upgrading should grab a decent 40D as in my opinion it could become a sought after classic soon.
 
I personally dont see what all this fuss is about.

So it doesn't have a mag allow body, big deal. End result probably means nothing.

I had to laugh when 1 person moaned at it being lighter being plastic, then another person moaning the swivel screen will just add weight. :D

Look its a 50D with the new higher res better noise handing sensor, swivel screen and HD video. Whats not to like ?? Oh the slightly compromised burst rate ? Personally if the burst rate speed is that important to you, you should be looking at 7D or 1D.

I think the swivel screen is ace. I read loads of articles in mags with people using the cameras very low down. This will make doing that easier!

And people moaning about it only using SD cards ? Please, compact flash is soo outdated, and SD cards are dirt cheap these days.

I think the cameras great and probably will be my next upgrade.
 
Perhaps I'm missing something or reading a different spec for the camera :shrug: but where does the 'plastic body' bit come from? .. as I read aluminium :thinking:
 
Splog said:
Perhaps I'm missing something or reading a different spec for the camera :shrug: but where does the 'plastic body' bit come from? .. as I read aluminium :thinking:
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Well for one you only have to look at it, and:

  • Higher resolution sensor (17.9MP vs. 15.1MP)
  • Accepts SD, rather than CF memory cards
  • No flash sync socket!! Why remove this!!
  • Wireless Speedlight control
  • Articulated 3:2 high resolution LCD screen
  • Plastic body shell (8% weight saving)
  • Standard ISO range extends to 6400, rather than 3200
  • User-definable Auto ISO upper limit
  • HD video recording 1080p20/25/24 or 720p60/50 plus cropped 640 x 480 movie mode
  • New features: in-camera raw conversion, ambience settings, creative filters, more JPEG options
  • No joystick, no multi-flash support, simplified top plate & info panel, only one Custom mode, no AF micro-adjust, no high speed shutter sync flash option
  • Slightly reduced customization options
  • Redesigned control layout with slightly fewer buttons
  • Lower burst rate
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http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos60d/
 
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Andy said:
Well for one you only have to look at it, and:



http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos60d/
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Aaah! ... I looked at Canon's info ...

PHYSICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Body Materials Aluminium and polycarbonate resin with glass fibre
Operating Environment 0 - 40 °C, 85% or less humidity
Dimensions (WxHxD) 144.5 x 105.8 x 78.6mm
Weight (Body Only) Approx. 755g (CIPA testing standard, including battery and memory card)
 
Nutty667 said:
Oh the slightly compromised burst rate ? Personally if the burst rate speed is that important to you, you should be looking at 7D or 1D.
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If it was as easy just 'choosing' the camera that you wanted a lot of us may have different cameras. ;) Most people have to balance the features they want with how much they are willing to pay. If you were hoping to upgrade for a higher bust rate, then you would be disappointed that the 60D is slower than the 50D and even the 40D. :eek:

Nutty667 said:
And people moaning about it only using SD cards ? Please, compact flash is soo outdated, and SD cards are dirt cheap these days.
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How is the Compact Flash format outdated? It is the format that has the fastest memory cards, and possibly highest capacities.

SD may be everywhere, and cheaper, but that doesn't make it the best format. ;) Not saying CF is, but to just make a sweeping statement like that is not justified imho. :nono: ;) :lol:
 
whitewash said:
i also noticed that the 60D has built in wireless speedlite control, which is a nice feature, just a shame there is so much in the 60D that doesnt appeal to me
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No, it's not a master controller pop-up flash like the 7D.

Splog said:
Perhaps I'm missing something or reading a different spec for the camera :shrug: but where does the 'plastic body' bit come from? .. as I read aluminium :thinking:
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Splog said:
Aaah! ... I looked at Canon's info ...

PHYSICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Body Materials Aluminium and polycarbonate resin with glass fibre
Operating Environment 0 - 40 °C, 85% or less humidity
Dimensions (WxHxD) 144.5 x 105.8 x 78.6mm
Weight (Body Only) Approx. 755g (CIPA testing standard, including battery and memory card)
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DPReview talks about plastic and loss of the magnesium alloy chassis, but also says "Polycarbonate resin with glass fibre on aluminum chassis" in the spec check.
 
redhed17 said:
If it was as easy just 'choosing' the camera that you wanted a lot of us may have different cameras. ;) Most people have to balance the features they want with how much they are willing to pay. If you were hoping to upgrade for a higher bust rate, then you would be disappointed that the 60D is slower than the 50D and even the 40D. :eek:
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I dont really understand. If you want to upgrade your burst speed, you would goto the next line up, not stay on the same product line, hoping for a marginal improvement.

Thats like buying the exact same car again, but just a newer version. You wouldn't expect it to be loads faster. Its just a newer version.

Considering its probably the cheapest XXD series ever released I think its great, just the kind of thing I'm looking for.
 
HoppyUK said:
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DPReview talks about plastic and loss of the magnesium alloy chassis, but also says "Polycarbonate resin with glass fibre on aluminum chassis" in the spec check.
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Sorry Richard! not really sure what you mean here :thinking:
 
vaizki said:
What?? It doesn't have HSS? Are they crazy? :cuckoo:
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Are you serious? :eek:

Splog said:
Sorry Richard! not really sure what you mean here :thinking:
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Sorry, I meant it is neither metal in the solid mag chassis sense, nor 100% plastic, but appears to be a plastic/alluminium/stuff composite.

I don't know why folks have a problem with that, other than old fashioned prejudice. There doesn't appear to be a performance penalty that I'm aware of, and the composite chassis is certainly cheaper and lighter.
 
HoppyUK said:
Are you serious? :eek:



Sorry, I meant it is neither metal in the solid mag chassis sense, nor 100% plastic, but appears to be a plastic/alluminium/stuff composite.

I don't know why folks have a problem with that, other than old fashioned prejudice. There doesn't appear to be a performance penalty that I'm aware of, and the composite chassis is certainly cheaper and lighter.
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Okay, thanks Richard:) I agree!

The DPReview is a little 'off' as I read it, as it does say 'plastic body' and 'the body is noticeably smaller than the EOS 50D' a bit misleading on both counts! a few mm on overall dimensions means nothing ;)
 
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