Canon 5D3?

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Nifkin said:
@ ShrubMonkey: Your guess is as good as mine; I reckon they may peddle it around the £2400-2500 mark to compete with the D800. If they launch it in the next couple of months, by this time next year all the reviews will be in, the supply will be satisfying demand and the price could settle somewhere around the £1800-1900 mark. I certainly can contend with what I've got until then, No need to rush into these things, eh? ;)
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Indeed, at some point in the future the starting price will fall, no doubt. I'm really interested in seeing how it advances the 5D2 and I hope Canon have a real winner here. But for me, my 5D2 will be the last DSLR body, CSC is the future for me:)
 
Moreorless said:
I'd guess the street price will be somewhat lower were as I believe Nikon have set the MRP as the minimum price for dealers for the D800.

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That won't happen here Nikon can't tell anyone what to sell their products for
 
POAH said:
That won't happen here Nikon can't tell anyone what to sell their products for
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Not officially but if you ant to keep receiving stock....
 
I'm just hoping a bunch of second user mk2s coming on to the market depressed the price of the classic another couple of hundred notes ;)
 
bigrob said:
Not officially but if you ant to keep receiving stock....
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nikon can't refuse to sell stock to people without a very very very very good reason or the EU will fine them a lot a lot of cash (which they have done to other companies)
 
POAH said:
nikon can't refuse to sell stock to people without a very very very very good reason or the EU will fine them a lot a lot of cash (which they have done to other companies)
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Well, yes and no. In the States, where such things are legal hey have done just that. Over here, where, as you say it's a :nono: what they have done is restricted the supply of higher end bodies and lenses to their "Professional" dealer network, so you won't be seeing them in (most) branches of Jessops' and they certainly won't be gracing the shelves of Currys or John Lewis any more....
 
Flash In The Pan said:
Well, yes and no. In the States, where such things are legal hey have done just that. Over here, where, as you say it's a :nono: what they have done is restricted the supply of higher end bodies and lenses to their "Professional" dealer network, so you won't be seeing them in (most) branches of Jessops' and they certainly won't be gracing the shelves of Currys or John Lewis any more....
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I don't live in the states hence I don't GAF about their laws ;)
 
Spec list? Apparently an Australian vendor has put this up on their site.

Unsurpassed Image Quality
22.3 Megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor
DiG!C 5+ Image Processor
ISO 100-25600 (expandable to L:50 H1:51200, H2: 102400
Full HD Movie (ISO 100-12800 (H:25600)

High Performance Operation
61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points)
6.0 fps for high continuous shooting
Intelligent viewfinder with approx. 100% coverage
3.2-type, approx.1.04m dot (3:2 wide) Clear View LCD II
iFCL metering with 63-zone dual-layer sensor
Shutter durability of 150,000 cycles

High end features
Silent & low vibration modes
Dual card slots (CF & SD)
High Dynamic Range (HDR) Mode
Multiple Exposures
Comparative Playback function
Improved durability & water and dust resistance

SPECIFICATIONS
Available Colours – Black
Megapixels – 22MP
Sensor Size – 36 x 24mm
ISO/Sensitivity – 100 – 25600
Autofocus Points – 61 points
Lens Mount – Canon
LCD Size – 3.2″
Liveview – Yes
Viewfinder – Optical TTL
Min Shutter Speed – 30 sec
Max Shutter Speed – 1/8000 sec
Continuous Shooting Speed – 6 fps
Self Timer – 10 sec, 2 sec
Metering – Centre-weighted, Spot, Evaluative, Partial
Video Resolution – Full HD 1080
Memory Type – Compact Flash
Connectivity – USB 2, HDMI, Mic Input, Wireless (optional)
Battery – LP-E6
Battery Type – Lithium-ion
Charger – Includes Li-Ion Charger
File Formats – AVI, RAW, H.264, MOV, MPEG-4
Dimensions – 152 x 116 x 76mm
Box Contents – Battery Pack LP-E6 .. Battery Charger LC-E6 .. AV Cable AVC-DC400ST .. Interface Cable IFC-200U .. Eyecup Eg .. Wide Strap EWEOS5DMKIII .. CR1616 Lithium Battery+
 
looks impressive. will be interesting to see high iso shots.
Nikon realy need to bring out a d700s or what ever they want to call it.
This is more what alot of people seemed to want the d800 to be
 
pmac said:
looks impressive. will be interesting to see high iso shots.
Nikon realy need to bring out a d700s or what ever they want to call it.
This is more what alot of people seemed to want the d800 to be
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It's funny though, I saw a post on Canon Rumors from a guy who said he uses Nikon and mostly frequents Nikon Rumors. Half the people on CR are whining that the 5D III doesn't have 36MP like the D800, while half the people on NR are whining that the D800 has too many MP. I guess the grass is always greener :)
 
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I know what you mean.
Im a nikon user but the d800 doesn't do anything for me. It seems like to many MP and no/slight improvement in iso performance. I would rather have lower MP and better iso performance. So unless i get a load of cash from some where for a d4 my d700 will be staying.

This looks good but i cant see myself changing camp for it,not because of costs but i know nikon now and didn't get on as well with the little i used a 5dmk2.
 
grum said:
It's funny though, I saw a post on Canon Rumors from a guy who said he uses Nikon and mostly frequents Nikon Rumors. Half the people on CR are whining that the 5D III doesn't have 36MP like the D800, while half the people on NR are whining that the D800 has too many MP. I guess the grass is always greener :)
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I'd not want more than 22mp, got no need for the extra resolution plus I want better high ISO capabilities.
 
grum said:
It's funny though, I saw a post on Canon Rumors from a guy who said he uses Nikon and mostly frequents Nikon Rumors. Half the people on CR are whining that the 5D III doesn't have 36MP like the D800, while half the people on NR are whining that the D800 has too many MP. I guess the grass is always greener :)
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I think Nikon will address that with a update on the D700, sometime, with less MP but higher ISO and shooting rate.

Canon has been hinting for a while that you can have too many MP, with somewhat obscure references to what they call 'pixel blur'. On closer questioning, this turns out mean the problems of diffraction and camera-shake that make maxing out very high pixel counts unrealistic most of the time, but with some downsides you have to put up with all of the time.

On the other hand, if the D800 takes off big style, I dare say they have something waiting in the wings. Personally, I'm on the side of 'plenty' of pixels rather than as many as possible, but the wider world might think differently. There's a good case for both Canon and Nikon to offer both options in cameras below the 1DX and D4.

So what's the 5D3's new special feature, mentioned on CR etc? Any takers for radio remote flash?
 
HoppyUK said:
I think Nikon will address that with a update on the D700, sometime, with less MP but higher ISO and shooting rate.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the now-redundant D3s sensor finds it's way into a D700 body, that would give Nikon a nice new model for almost zero development cost...
 
HoppyUK said:
I think Nikon will address that with a update on the D700, sometime, with less MP but higher ISO and shooting rate.
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Flash In The Pan said:
It wouldn't surprise me if the now-redundant D3s sensor finds it's way into a D700 body, that would give Nikon a nice new model for almost zero development cost...
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it would surprise me. I suspect that'll be the end of the d700 line as a mini d3/d3s/d4.

Don't forget Nikon are a small company, releasing three FX bodies in a year would be a hell of an ask, and if Nikon were going to do a 'd700s' they would of done it by now
 
boyfalldown said:
it would surprise me. I suspect that'll be the end of the d700 line as a mini d3/d3s/d4.

Don't forget Nikon are a small company, releasing three FX bodies in a year would be a hell of an ask, and if Nikon were going to do a 'd700s' they would of done it by now
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Small?!
 
boyfalldown said:
it would surprise me. I suspect that'll be the end of the d700 line as a mini d3/d3s/d4.

Don't forget Nikon are a small company, releasing three FX bodies in a year would be a hell of an ask, and if Nikon were going to do a 'd700s' they would of done it by now
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But doesn't that leave a big gap in Nikons line up? For an entry level FF camera so to speak?
 
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nikon are so small and so damaged by the tsunami that canon are going to take them over the next camera will be a D41DS and will basically be a 1DS with the D4 sensor

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Nikons problem to me seems to be that there depending on Sony for sensors. Ultra high megapixels might be a good move for the latter given that they probabley don't want to compete directly with the 5D mk3 but it does seem to leave a hole in the formers lineup.

Personally though if I ever upgraded to FF the D800E would be exactly what I was looking for.
 
EspressoJunkie said:
But doesn't that leave a big gap in Nikons line up? For an entry level FF camera so to speak?
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I doubt they see it that way. The d800 is replacing the d700 price wise, so that's the entry price into ff. just for the sake of argument if a d700s were priced for £1k less how would that fit into the line
 
thought this section was on the Canon 5dMKIII
but looks like it starting to be about nikon

Rumoured the 5D mkIII will have HDR built in as an option, wonder how good a job it'll do in-camera. Apparently the 1Dx can blend up to 9 exposures to create a HDR picture.

Looks like the 5D Mark III will become reality Friday
 
boyfalldown said:
Yes compared to canon
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That's like saying BMW won't introduce a new car because they're a smaller company than Ford.

The reason Nikon wouldn't have released a D700s "mini-D3s" up until this point is that it would have cannibalised D3s sales, in the way the D700 did to the D3.

They are now in the position to combine two essentially redundant products - the D700 and D3s and produce a "new" one, and all for no more extra cost than the difference in cost between the D3 and D3s sensors.

Surely if they are that small a company then that is the ideal way to boost sales, without stealing sales from other models in their range?
 
Raymond Lin said:
The 5Dii has a rrp of £2,299.

Here is hoping !
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With the official announcement about two hours away, the first place to have it online for orders over here has body only at $4,200. That's about £2,850. That's one of the "big two" highstreet shops though, who always price higher than others. Either way, think I'll be waiting a few months.

EDIT: Just checked to see what the price of the kit with the 24-70 mk II was, and the page has been taken offline. ;)
 
Jayst84 said:
With the official announcement about two hours away, the first place to have it online for orders over here has body only at $4,200. That's about £2,850. That's one of the "big two" highstreet shops though, who always price higher than others. Either way, think I'll be waiting a few months.

EDIT: Just checked to see what the price of the kit with the 24-70 mk II was, and the page has been taken offline. ;)
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Excitement is looming!
 
wait a few month as ill have the money then my 5dMKII for sale
I hope it a higher pixel than the MKII
 
the ghost said:
wait a few month as ill have the money then my 5dMKII for sale
I hope it a higher pixel than the MKII
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Your prayers will be answered - it looks set to get an extra whooping million pixels :love:
 
the ghost said:
a million is that all
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if the rumors are correct, then the whole point of mk3 is to improve the camera's functionality before the raw resolving power. Finally they have listened to me :D
 
Flash In The Pan said:
It wouldn't surprise me if the now-redundant D3s sensor finds it's way into a D700 body, that would give Nikon a nice new model for almost zero development cost...
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Sony supposedly also have a new generation 24MP FF sensor which no doubt would be available to Nikon to customise (different filters & processing).
 
Flash In The Pan said:
That's like saying BMW won't introduce a new car because they're a smaller company than Ford.

The reason Nikon wouldn't have released a D700s "mini-D3s" up until this point is that it would have cannibalised D3s sales, in the way the D700 did to the D3.

They are now in the position to combine two essentially redundant products - the D700 and D3s and produce a "new" one, and all for no more extra cost than the difference in cost between the D3 and D3s sensors.

Surely if they are that small a company then that is the ideal way to boost sales, without stealing sales from other models in their range?
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No its not. It's saying as a company nikon don't have resources to develop 3 fx bodies at the same time.

There is no way Nikon will introduce a 'd700s'. If nothing else where would you fit it price wise. It'd be so close to the d800 it'd never sell.
 
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Price is $3500 and yes it has 1Dx 61 point AF, 6fps and claimed 2 stops better noise at high ISO. Radio sync ettl flash system also came out but no transmitter inside the 5d3 - you have to buy the ST-E3.

Should be available end of march.
 
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