Canon 5D3 or Nikon D800(E)

It's only the longer lenses which are white. The 100-400, 70-300 and four 70-200 zooms are all white, as are all the primes from 300mm upwards plus the 200mm f/2. I think that's all of them. I think it was originally on the larger models to reflect heat and combat expansion in sunlight.
 
Phil Young said:
Ok thanks for that lesson, but as stated, what I know of Canons top of the range, they are white...no?
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Not all L Glass are white.

All L Glass have the red band.

And I think Nikon has white lenses too.

Canon L Glass is the top spec that that lens/focal length, although not always the case, 200mm has like 3 L glass (1.8, 2.0 and 2.8). It is more than sharpness, it translate to a lot of things - the manner of its construction, number of lens elements, USM motors, number of aperture blades, the aperture size etc etc.

All L Glass come with hoods & bag or in the case of large telephotos, a case.

Non L glass don't get any of that.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
...And I think Nikon has white lenses too....
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Yep, rare as hen's teeth. I know the 70-200mm VR came in what Nikon called 'tropical grey' and the 28-70mm did, but not sure what others came that way. I've probably seen one for sale on TP - I know Grays of Westminser usually has some in... very sexy lenses.

What are the green stripe Canon lenses? DO aren't they? What's the story there.... something to do with optics to make the lens physically shorter isn't is? :)
 
Speaking of lenses, I had to use the 50mm recently as the 85mm was just too long and even though the 50mm is still a great little lens, when you zoom in you can see how poorly it resolves.
 
Raymond - I've heard about that lens. Wow - that is a massive optic and f/1.8 on a 200mm lens.... jeez.
 
gad-westy said:
Is this bit actually true? I don't want to pour fuel on the fire or anything (this argument could go on until the internet explodes) but I have never actually noticed this trend. I did dig out this picture of the gantry at last year's royal wedding but the split looks pretty even to me.
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But of course we all know the REAL photographers use olympus :lol:
 
Simon photo said:
Just get the sigmonster and be done with it. You won't get a bigger or better boost to the male ego than that
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On that note my wife usually chuckles when she sees a guy trying to act all super superior in his Range Rover or something of similar size. I drive a Corgi Diecast myself....
 
joescrivens said:
And with this statement you have shown that actually you don't know what you are talking about.
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You're right! I don't have a clue...silly me, ALL canons lenses are great! I should learn more about the company and the difference between the white lenses...and the black lenses.

Or perhaps...I was lead to believe this by my brothers business partner who actually shoots Canon, accepted it as correct and posted it here.

Stupid me!
 
JFHC......who cares?

Use what you want, if it gets results , stick with it. Some of you are pathetic in the extreme.
 
I haven't read all the posts- I got a bit bored with all the tittle tattle but I'll put my point across addressing the original question.

From my point of view I am unclear which route to follow- neither the 5d MkIII or the D800 excites me in the way I had hoped or to that matter the D4- currently I shoot Nikon and Canon- I only shoot Canon due to video as Nikon video up to this point has been inadequate for my needs.

I look at Canon and I think their current strategy is more aligned to my own but always holding me back is the white lenses which I really dislike aesthetically:D. It might seem trivial to some but I am deeply principled:lol:
With Nikon, you really have to question their strategic roadmap and it's been pretty obvious that it has been lacking and they have failed to grasp the zeitgeist.

I sold some of my great Nikon lenses in readiment for a switch then kind of stopped- probably looking/hoping for a moment of clarity. It hasn't really arrived and at the moment given what I have seen I have to say I think I will continue with 5d MkII for video and D300 for stills.
 
Dr_O said:
I only shoot Canon due to video as Nikon video up to this point has been inadequate for my needs.
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I have heard/seen reports that the video on the D3S was very good and remember seeing a video of deer posted here that was very acceptable - anyway as a Nikon man I looked at the D800 (and D4) specs and went with the D3S.
 
gramps said:
I have heard/seen reports that the video on the D3S was very good and remember seeing a video of deer posted here that was very acceptable - anyway as a Nikon man I looked at the D800 (and D4) specs and went with the D3S.
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Was is this one?:

http://www.richardpeters.co.uk/blog/2010/11/03/my-first-play-with-the-nikon-d3s-wildlife-video/

This pretty much sealed the deal for me on getting a D3s as my main camera and although the D3 will do everything I need from a stills POV, the D3s looks like a better package for me moving forward. The D7000 looks a good prospect as a back-up body (and it has good video) but as an everyday camera to stand up to weather and abuse, and to be able to good stills and video, I really can't see any option than the D3s.
 
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I've tried to read all this thread, thought it might be interesting, but it's just turned into willy waving and a lens slagging match.

As a 'classic' Canon 5d user I'm interested in the Mk3, but I think it's going to be too steep for me unless I can pick up a 'cheap' one on my trip to Vegas in April.

Given the choice I'd get the 5d though. Why? I've invested loads in Canon lenses which I'm very happy with. I'm certainly the weakest link in the chain, not the performance of the lens. The other reason I'm staying with Canon is that it means I can continue to use my Leica / Yashica /M42 and (gasp) Nikon MF lenses.

Anyway, I'll stop with the sensible comments and leave you to carry on bickering. I have the go and read a thread on Pistonheads about Nissan GT-R vs the 911 Turbo and if Windows 8 or Snow Lion will make my life better...

As you were!
 
specialman said:
Was is this one?:

http://www.richardpeters.co.uk/blog/2010/11/03/my-first-play-with-the-nikon-d3s-wildlife-video/

This pretty much sealed the deal for me on getting a D3s as my main camera and although the D3 will do everything I need from a stills POV, the D3s looks like a better package for me moving forward. The D7000 looks a good prospect as a back-up body (and it has good video) but as an everyday camera to stand up to weather and abuse, and to be able to good stills and video, I really can't see any option than the D3s.
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That's the video I remembered, and like you I can't see anything that tops the D3S from the current crop.
 
gramps said:
That's the video I remembered, and like you I can't see anything that tops the D3S from the current crop.
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Although I like the idea of having a D7000 in my bag as a back-up (like Peter, the author of that video) and to get a bit of extra reach thanks to DX, the form factor of the D3s just has it all.

I can see the credit card having to be left at home when I go to Focus tomorrow.....
 
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specialman said:
Although I like the idea of having a D7000 in my bag as a back-up (like Peter, the author of that video) and to get a bit of extra reach thanks to DX, the form factor of the D3s just has it all.

I can see the credit card having to be left at home when I go to Focus tomorrow.....
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True...and also...

Shooting in 1080p on DX and editing in a 720p window PP will give you nearly double the reach of the D3s...

It shouldn't be too long until DX are competing with D3s anyway so in a few years we'll probably having the same debate over the D500 or possibly even D7000's successor...having seen the video footage of the D800 it is not far superior and the camera no longer appeals to me.
 
Digifrog said:
I think you're missing the point.

This thread is about making a careful thoughtful decision between two contemporary and comparable cameras/systems, not a debate based on immaturity.
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Are you telling me that? Or are you kidding yourself?
 
I go for the d800 and alot of people don't realise it can shoot at 22mp in ff also it will be better than the mk3 it even has uncompressed hdmi and usb3 it's the biggest jump in any slr in years
 
shane1980 said:
I go for the d800 and alot of people don't realise it can shoot at 22mp in ff
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Just for clarity, this lower image size (actually 20.3Mp) is not a RAW file, it is simply resized in camera if you shoot at 'medium' in JPEG or TIFF only... same as on any other camera.
 
This made me laugh... obviously done by a Canon person....

funny video
 
shane1980 said:
I go for the d800 and alot of people don't realise it can shoot at 22mp in ff also it will be better than the mk3 it even has uncompressed hdmi and usb3 it's the biggest jump in any slr in years
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Yeah 22mp with 36 mp of noise lol
 
mipevo6 said:
This made me laugh... obviously done by a Canon person....

funny video
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Both would be fantastic landscape camera's, i'd love a full frame camera for that reason and keep the D300 x1.3 crop factor for birds/sports but i don't have the money.
 
Have to say most of the samples from the 5D MK III look a bit weird up close - there's not many I've seen that look very sharp, though the high ISO looks very clean - something to do with the in camera NR? Some of the Canon official examples don't even look completely in focus.

I will still be waiting for proper reviews/samples from RAW files though. There are a few RAW files which people have managed to convert but I don't think it's a fair test really. I saw some reference to NR that is even applied to RAW files, but can be switched off in camera - can't remember where now.

Canon really should have got some better samples ready for the launch of this camera though - seen some really great looking D800 shots.

Edit: This is more like it.

http://translate.google.com/transla...p://www.dcfever.com/news/readnews.php?id=6365

3200 and 6400 look very clean and sharp as far as I can see.
 
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