Canon 5D - new model?

I think it will be called the 6D whats this talk of switching to the dark side nikon? There can't touch canon especially there lens line up L lenses are awesome :D
 
The Human Tripod said:
Wrong.



The 5D mk II is the easy choice. The High ISO is better than the D700.

http://www.photographybay.com/2008/12/27/canon-5d-mark-ii-vs-nikon-d700-in-depth-iso-comparison/
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To be fair, that is only one test. Both cameras are known to perform very well at higher ISOs and DXOMark have measured the D700 to be slightly better.

Go with whichever body feels best in your hands and suits you needs best (lens system / megapixel count for cropping / video etc.).
 
manualfocus-g said:
To be fair, that is only one test. Both cameras are known to perform very well at higher ISOs and DXOMark have measured the D700 to be slightly better.

Go with whichever body feels best in your hands and suits you needs best (lens system / megapixel count for cropping / video etc.).
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5D mkII with a variety of lenses including the Canon EF 70-200mm f2.8L IS USM Mk II is awesome and produces fantastic quality images, I can't and do not complain. We were interested in full frame and low light capabilities.

Canons next move?
 
No - I'll rebut based on real-world usage of both side-by-side at the same events.....believe me, the 5D2 falls apart far, far quicker than the D700 from 1600 onwards.

I'm not sure why this is a surprise though - aside from the fact that the shots above are down-sized to match the D700 resolution, so you're not seeing what it looks like at native output - why is a 12MP sensor outperforming a 21MP for noise perfomance a shock?
 
Well, that's not my experience, but hey, you're welcome to your opinion.
Judging by The23rdman's pic the D3 thread, and you telling him it's normal when he thinks it's out of focus, I'll take your opnion with a pinch of salt.
 
Feel free to do so. Of course you have used the 5DII and D700 side by side, in the same lighting, for the same events?

In the meantime feel free to confuse the impact of noise reduction when viewing a 100% crop with something that's out of focus.
 
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I wanted a 5d mk II but decided to get a mk I as a stopgap. Will see what the new model is like and either get that or a hopefully cheaper mk II.
 
That's pretty much my plan too.
 
grum said:
I wanted a 5d mk II but decided to get a mk I as a stopgap. Will see what the new model is like and either get that or a hopefully cheaper mk II.
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MKIII will have an impact on MKII prices for sure. Ofcourse this is all rumour and hearsay and I am sure Canon have something rather special about to happen. It's a waiting game. :)
 
I think I read somewhere that Canon is going to release this model on the first quarter of this year. Looks like its not going to happen then.
 
inaneredstripe said:
i do hope so, than there will be loads of cheap 5D mk11's for sale. woohoo
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I'm anticipating that the 5DIII could be significantly more expensive than the 5DII was, so it will be interesting to see as this may not impact the 5DII price that much.
 
I've always thought that Canon would be shooting themselves in the foot if they released a 5D with 7D style AF. I can't help feel that such a camera would have a serious impact on the sales of their 1Ds. OK the 1Ds has full weather sealing and a built in grip, but given the cost of it, would anyone be prepared to pay the premium for such features if a 5DIII could match it in other areas?

The other possibility seems that to be that Canon may release an amalgamated 1Ds/5D. No idea what model designation they would give it, or what price level they would release it at, but can't help feel that they need something along those lines to remain competetive with what the Nikon D700 offers.
 
Scarecrow said:
I've always thought that Canon would be shooting themselves in the foot if they released a 5D with 7D style AF. I can't help feel that such a camera would have a serious impact on the sales of their 1Ds. OK the 1Ds has full weather sealing and a built in grip, but given the cost of it, would anyone be prepared to pay the premium for such features if a 5DIII could match it in other areas?

The other possibility seems that to be that Canon may release an amalgamated 1Ds/5D. No idea what model designation they would give it, or what price level they would release it at, but can't help feel that they need something along those lines to remain competetive with what the Nikon D700 offers.
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5DII came out after the D700 and the 5DII has been a fantastic seller for canon. Both are fantastic cameras.

Will be interesting to see if a 3D kind of offering materialises to bridge the 1DS and the 5DII
 
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ShrubMonkey said:
5DII came out after the D700 and the 5DII has been a fantastic seller for canon. Both are fantastic cameras.

Will be interesting to see if a 3D kind of offering materialises to bridge the 1DS and the 5DII
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Yes, the 5DII is a very impressive camera. Perhaps they will combine the 1D and 5D to create an awesome camera. It is very exciting and this thread has been very interesting to read.

Thank you to all for your input.

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I think we will see better weatherproofing, possibly more MP (although I hope not), better higher Iso performance, auto AF in Video mode, integrated flash control (as per 7D), perhaps a few more fps, bigger buffer in RAW and a better rear screen, but not enough "advances" to steal sales from the 60/7D market.
1DS will be going in a diffeent direction in my view, bigger sensor to take on MF at larger printed image size etc.

Matt
 
Here's an interesting one to throw into the mix - apart from possibly a faster frame rate and more autofocus points as well as an improved exposure system - how could they improve on a camera which had all the rave reviews? (Sorry that was a crap sentence!).

I struggle to understand the common sense in continuous development of a product which far exceeds the average user's needs or abilities. The business sense I understand.

We pays our money and takes our choice agreed but for me the MkII has quality overkill, unless you crop excessively; speed enough if you don't need stupid frame per second rates; and HD Video which I have a Digital Camcorder for.

Personal view of course - I won't be upgrading from mine:love:
 
cyclamens said:
Here's an interesting one to throw into the mix - apart from possibly a faster frame rate and more autofocus points as well as an improved exposure system - how could they improve on a camera which had all the rave reviews? (Sorry that was a crap sentence!).

I struggle to understand the common sense in continuous development of a product which far exceeds the average user's needs or abilities. The business sense I understand.

We pays our money and takes our choice agreed but for me the MkII has quality overkill, unless you crop excessively; speed enough if you don't need stupid frame per second rates; and HD Video which I have a Digital Camcorder for.

Personal view of course - I won't be upgrading from mine:love:
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Wait till u see the mark 3's amazing features then :p
 
Tony Stark said:
Wait till u see the mark 3's amazing features then :p
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You are, of course, probably right Tony. But, would it make me a better photographer?

I upgraded from my 350D after I had it nicked - to a 30D. My eldest 'borrowed' that to take to Le Mans - needless to say he's caught the bug. As I was a bit flush and wanted a 5D with 'L' lenses had to go for the MkII as it was the current model, (with all due respect I like to buy new if I can).

No, this does more than I need on all counts:clap:
 
cyclamens said:
You are, of course, probably right Tony. But, would it make me a better photographer?

I upgraded from my 350D after I had it nicked - to a 30D. My eldest 'borrowed' that to take to Le Mans - needless to say he's caught the bug. As I was a bit flush and wanted a 5D with 'L' lenses had to go for the MkII as it was the current model, (with all due respect I like to buy new if I can).

No, this does more than I need on all counts:clap:
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I was just joking there :p as a hobbyists, I don't think that one will really use the full potential of the 5D2. It's already a great camera and it does what it does. Just that as humans, we tend to want more than we need. And that's a dangerous thing for one's wallet.
 
Tony Stark said:
I was just joking there :p as a hobbyists, I don't think that one will really use the full potential of the 5D2. It's already a great camera and it does what it does. Just that as humans, we tend to want more than we need. And that's a dangerous thing for one's wallet.
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You're right Tony, I doubt there are many photographers who use all the functions on the 5D or who are aware of their cameras full potential. It's can be about 'having the latest model'.


Canon are obviously aware of the popularity of the 5DII and therefore will release a new 5DIII at some point this year. New lens too perhaps. :)
 
Three things that should have been dealt with with the 5D2 though. The ancient AF module, the poor shutter lag and the long mirror blackout.
 
MsPeep said:
You're right Tony, I doubt there are many photographers who use all the functions on the 5D or who are aware of their cameras full potential. It's can be about 'having the latest model'.

Canon are obviously aware of the popularity of the 5DII and therefore will release a new 5DIII at some point this year. New lens too perhaps. :)
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But keeping up with the technology ain't easy. Canon will keep on changing their top of the line bodies every 3 years or more. Being happy with what u have is the best way. But sometimes those gearheads just must have the latest tech. Lol

Radiohead said:
Three things that should have been dealt with with the 5D2 though. The ancient AF module, the poor shutter lag and the long mirror blackout.
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Hopefully they will come out with more advance AF system than the 7d!
 
Tony Stark said:
But keeping up with the technology ain't easy. Canon will keep on changing their top of the line bodies every 3 years or more. Being happy with what u have is the best way. But sometimes those gearheads just must have the latest tech. Lol


However, if you are looking to buy another Canon, would you wait until a possible 5DIII or just buy another 5DII because it 'does the job'? ;)

Decisions, decisions.
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I think I'll wait for the 5d3. Atleast I won't see myself complaining about the AF system :p
 
Tony Stark said:
Yeah..I'm just waiting for the 5d3 to come out. See what it offers :D
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Price will be around £2k+ mark, a considered purchase. I will see what others think too and if I feel it is in a league of it's own, then possibly. If not, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase another 5DII :)
 
MsPeep said:
Price will be around £2k+ mark, a considered purchase. I will see what others think too and if I feel it is in a league of it's own, then possibly. If not, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase another 5DII :)
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The price will be crazy for the first one month I think. Like the canon 60d, when if first out, I ask the shop and they said its 1080 quid. Now one can get it around 750 quid atleast. Expect it to start around 2k and will be around 1.8k in around a month :p
 
Tony Stark said:
But keeping up with the technology ain't easy. Canon will keep on changing their top of the line bodies every 3 years or more. Being happy with what u have is the best way. But sometimes those gearheads just must have the latest tech. Lol


Hopefully they will come out with more advance AF system than the 7d!
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Yes well I have just arranged the bank loan which will enable me to buy the next two years body and lens launches from Canon - so ya boo!!!!!:nuts:
 
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