Canon 5D MKIII official owners/users thread, anything related to the 5D MKIII

sounds like the 5d3 is not worth double the price of a 5d2. i think this camera should be around the 2k mark at most as all it has over the mk2 is a new AF system. the rest are just minor tweaks here and there.

regardless if i do get a 5d2 or 5d3 i would notice a huge difference over my 400d!

I think whether or not it is worth what it costs is subjective. The improvements and new features over the mk2 were enough for me to justify the cost delta over selling the mk2 and buying the mk3. It will be different for each individual I guess.

Personally I love the new viewfinder and focus point display options but they could be a problem to some in certain situations. Also the zooming functionality, while a pain at first, I am used to now. I'm only using one body and switching between different systems though and in this scenario it would probably be a pain.

Most of the mk2 was pretty good in the first place though and they definitely improved what wasn't. Not a quantum leap but a very solid upgrade.
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
I've had my 5DIII for a couple of weeks, but haven't posted about it on the forums. Now I've had the opportunity to use it in anger and feel I can say something other than "cool new toy".

One of the reasons I've kept my head down is that there is no quantum leap in camera technology to sing praises of and nothing bad to moan about.
IMHO the reviews that say it is like a blueprinted 5DII are spot on.
Everything has been subtly improved, and while there is no single change you can point at and go "Wow", the overall impression is that is is a much more capable camera and it is a joy to use.

I love the quiet shutter. It would have been a huge asset at the last festival I covered and will get much use.
The quiet shutter also seems to significantly reduce vibration, so it seems like a good idea to use silent shutter for general shooting. Landscapes are defeated somewhat by IR release only available on the loud shutter. A firmware tweak would be nice :)

I turned on the viewfinder grid - lush!
I think I'm going to get far less wonky horizons with the 5DIII.

I'm experimenting with setting M-Fn to viewfinder artificial horizon. I've never got on with the one on the rear screen, so this may actually be useful to me!

Aargh - where did my red focus confirmation dots go!
I'd expected some sort of problem from theading this thread, but not this bad!
Fixed by changing the settings; no idea why it isn't the default setting.
Something very wierd; I was taking a portrait shot with the 50mm f1.4 and the subject commented they could see the focus confimation red flash - what! They are right; there is a bright red flash seen through the lens!

On Screen Zooming - aaargh!
Another problem I was prepared for from reading this thread.
Playback I guess I can retrain myself, but what I didn't expect was how crap it is in Live View.
Setting up the TSE is a dance where the right hand zooms and pans to check focus in Live View and the left hand tweaks the focus ring. On the 5DII zooming and panning needs both hands - rubbish!
Luckily, the workaround proposed earlier in this thread solves the problem; assign zoom to the Set button.
I also set default zoom to 'actual size' on the focus point, so I can quickly evaluate sharpness.

Auto Update Custom Function - excellent new feature which means I may actually use custom functions on the 5DIII !!!

I found I could change the configuration so the Lock switch protects both wheels - I often accidentally change aperture pulling 5DII out the bag, this will fix my problem.
Also, the lock switch is far easier to operate without taking eye away from the viewfinder.

In terms of IQ...
Definitely comparable with the 5DII; which means it is excellent.
However - I've had a couple of shots where I've had bad banding visible in the shadows when I've tried lifting them. One on a pre-dawn landscape, one on a BIF. IMHO neither instance was excessive abuse of the sliders.
I haven't changed my working practice from the 5dII and I find this a little worrying as I'm not convinced the 5dII would have been as bad.
This is not enough for me to throw my toys around, but it emphasises how important it is to get the exposure right in contrasty scenes. I had hoped the 5DIII would be an improvement in this area.

As for the focussing....
For me, the most significant change is that I can set separate focus points depending on camera orientation.
Honestly, I'm struggling to work out how to get any significant benefit!
Every time I tried using fancy focus modes using the 135mm f2 I got loads of portrait headshots with sharp noses, but out of focus eyes. I've gone back to using the most basic AF and the only improvement is that the non-centred focus points seem a bit better than the 5DII.
I've also had a go at BIF at a Red Kite centre; I was sure the 5DIII would excel. In the sky the results very impressive, but as soon as there was a background it struggled. I got an awful lot of sharp shots of distant trees with OOF brown blobs in the foreground. I thought it was supposed to be easier than this! I think I need to pin down a tame 7D birder for their opinion on what AF approaches work best.

If anyone has 2p to add to the above - fire away! :)

Thanks for taking the time to write this, still deciding between a 5D iii and 5D ii with a 70-200, heard a lot that there is not much difference between the IQ.

Cheers again.
 
Thanks for taking the time to write this, still deciding between a 5D iii and 5D ii with a 70-200, heard a lot that there is not much difference between the IQ.

Cheers again.

If you can justify the cost, go for the 5DIII.
It's really weird, because although it is really hard to explain why, the 5DIII just feels 'right'.
Moving up to the new camera it's really easy to be distracted by the annoyances like the focus confirmation and live view zoom and ignore all the other changes.
However, after a few days spent with the 5DIII I expected going back to the 5DII to be like putting on a comfortable pair of slippers.
But it wasn't!
All the refinements actually make the my old 5DII feel unrefined.
It's impossible to pin down why the changes are significant, but they are!

Having said all that...
I suspect Canon will continue to sell 5DIIs by the bucket load as the image quality still stacks up against the best and there are plenty of people who don't need the refinements.

I'm currently pairing my new 5dIII with the 135mm f2 at f2; in this combination the focussing seems quite a bit more reliable than the old 5DII. I've also used the 2xTC with this combination and the results exceeded my expectation!
Here's a shot typical of what I'm getting from this combination - I can't fault the image quality and I believe my percentage of keepers has gone up quite a bit.
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I'm using my old 5DII to cover the wide angles, either the 24mm TSEII or 24-105 depending on what I'm doing.
Hence I've very few landscapes taken on the new 5DIII !
This doesn't worry me as I bought the 5DIII for covering events and it's proving itself exceptionally capable.
Here's a shot taken last week on my old 5DII with the 24mm TSE II.
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And the same scene taken on my new 5DIII with the 135mm f2.
Totally different lens, totally different story, but I love both images.
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ChrisJ_SLH said:
I think whether or not it is worth what it costs is subjective. The improvements and new features over the mk2 were enough for me to justify the cost delta over selling the mk2 and buying the mk3. It will be different for each individual I guess.

Personally I love the new viewfinder and focus point display options but they could be a problem to some in certain situations. Also the zooming functionality, while a pain at first, I am used to now. I'm only using one body and switching between different systems though and in this scenario it would probably be a pain.

Most of the mk2 was pretty good in the first place though and they definitely improved what wasn't. Not a quantum leap but a very solid upgrade.

How different is the viewfinder? Is it nice large and bright as my Canon A1 film slr?
 
How different is the viewfinder? Is it nice large and bright as my Canon A1 film slr?

I don't know what you are shooting with at the moment but the VF is slightly larger than the mk2. 97% for mk2, 100% for the mk3. Even with a f/4 lens mounted it seems bright. I must confess that I've not got round to mounting anything faster yet.

The most striking difference is the amount of AF points now available of the same (or reputedly better) performance than the central point on the mk2. Gaining confidence to trust those outer points was a bit of a challenge if I'm honest.

Light transmission of the VF compared to a film SLR is probably less due to the transparent LCD used for the AF point display. As will be the suitability for manual focus.

The ability to enable a grid and display the electronic level are very useful though. Not new to mk3, the 7D had the functionality, but very welcome additions.
 
I came across this from Ken Rockwell http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/5d-mk-iii/users-guide/index.htm

Interesting read as he seems to shoot in P mode most of the time. I have never shot in P mode - am I missing something?

And he says to shoot at 11Mp. I thought I bought a 22Mp camera because it had 22 sooper dooper Mps - again am I missing something here?

Any comments?
 
I came across this from Ken Rockwell http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/5d-mk-iii/users-guide/index.htm

Interesting read as he seems to shoot in P mode most of the time. I have never shot in P mode - am I missing something?

And he says to shoot at 11Mp. I thought I bought a 22Mp camera because it had 22 sooper dooper Mps - again am I missing something here?

Any comments?

He believes that using the smaller RAW sizes stops the interpolation of the largest format, giving the best image quality. He probably shoots in P due to being seriously lazy!
 
My 5D mkiii was delivered yesterday. I've only had time for a quick play but here's one of Dave our chameleon

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Nice work Ant. Amazing colours, but Dave? Hardly an exotic name for an exotic creature. :lol:
 
I don't know what you are shooting with at the moment but the VF is slightly larger than the mk2. 97% for mk2, 100% for the mk3. Even with a f/4 lens mounted it seems bright. I must confess that I've not got round to mounting anything faster yet.

The most striking difference is the amount of AF points now available of the same (or reputedly better) performance than the central point on the mk2. Gaining confidence to trust those outer points was a bit of a challenge if I'm honest.

Light transmission of the VF compared to a film SLR is probably less due to the transparent LCD used for the AF point display. As will be the suitability for manual focus.

The ability to enable a grid and display the electronic level are very useful though. Not new to mk3, the 7D had the functionality, but very welcome additions.


I have stated what i am shooting with, a canon a-1 film slr and a canon 400d
 
How about a little bit of lighter relief.

Had to pick some things up in Southfield today so thought I pop in to Richmond Park as I haven't been there for about 18 years.

5D3 & 70-200 - Caption contest.....

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Haha Very good :thumbs:
 
Billiant al of them.
 
Can anyone give me advice, I've got a 5D3 on its way here, so I've ordered LR4 as I've previously only been using Elements9.
I keep hearing about not being able to open raw files without this or that.
What exactly do I need? I'm reading LR4 will do it with a download of 4.1, does this automatically upgrade when you install or do I need to save it in a specific place.
Thanks in advance and apologies if it's a durr question.
 
Once 4 is installed if it doesn't ask you to update just go to Help, then Check for Updates.

Or download the trail version of 4.1 now and install and use your license key when your version of 4 comes. This is what I would do.
 
James J said:
How good is the weather sealing on this compared to the mk ii?

I dont think anyone is brave enough jus got yet to try it, I imagine everyone is treating there mk3 like a newborn baby
 
I dont think anyone is brave enough jus got yet to try it, I imagine everyone is treating there mk3 like a newborn baby

Me too!
I killed a 5DII by immersion in water; not very deep and not for very long and there is every chance the 5DIII would survive as the switches are now sealed.
But there is no way I'm intending to find out!
 
I dont think anyone is brave enough jus got yet to try it, I imagine everyone is treating there mk3 like a newborn baby

No I put the 5D3 down much more carefully ;)
 
I can see you...
 
What I didn't think about when I bought the 5D3 was my laptop.

It's an old 2.26Ghz Core2Duo with 4Gb of RAM & an SSD in.

Plenty fast enough until I upgraded to LR4 and started shooting in RAW.

I hate waiting with PCs/laptops and waiting for it load CR2s is doing me in.

So now I've had to go to FleaBay and get a new (2nd had laptop). It's only got 4Gb of RAM but I can upgrade it to 8Gb. It's got a 250Gb HDD, so out with the DVD drive & the 250Gb drive can go into an ultra-bay caddy as a 2nd drive. Then get a 240Gb SSD as the boot/programs drive.
 
In real terms I don't know but it is reputedly better.

I shot with my mk2 in light rain several times and the last few shots on my Flickr were taking during a shower with the mk3.

Anything really heavy I would be more nervous though.

I used mine in Snowdonia when it was really tipping down.
(Still need to sort the images out)

It's more waterproof than my shoes if that helps.

Excellent. I'd like to see those pictures please Chris if you can link me to your Flickr?

I've used my Mk ii in light rain a few times but not heavy downpours. The weather sealing on the mk ii isn't meant to be great but theres absolutely no info on how good it actually is! Same goes for the mk iii which is bloody annoying when thinking about possibly upgrading around january time -.-
 
Excellent. I'd like to see those pictures please Chris if you can link me to your Flickr?

I've used my Mk ii in light rain a few times but not heavy downpours. The weather sealing on the mk ii isn't meant to be great but theres absolutely no info on how good it actually is! Same goes for the mk iii which is bloody annoying when thinking about possibly upgrading around january time -.-

If you click on this image you should be able to find my photostream. There's just two images and two alternate crops posted but you can see the rain and the brollies!


London 2012 Olympic Torch Relay by Chris J Hart, on Flickr
 
Hi all,
I don't really like asking this type of question but I need advice on how I approach a event I am attending this weekend.

You can see my gear list in my sig and what I want to understand is how / what to do for this event.

My little boy is taking part in a balance bike event for 2 year old's this weekend at the Manchester Velodrome and I want to be able to capture the day for ourselves. I have also been asked by the event organiser if I don't mind sharing images to them and they will use as part of there promotional work. It's not a paid job but I wouldn't mind doing it anyway as a learning excercise for me.

I'm thinking of the following areas setting wise and adjusting as required.

AiServo
Highspeed shooting
61 point tracking..?
Which would be the best tracking preset for this type of event..?
Tv mode

The event is indoors on the BMX track and the lighting is all artificial. ISO settings might be ok in auto or possibly restrict them upto 12000..?

Hope someone can offer a little advice. Much appreciated

Mark
 
I posted that two pages ago..... everyone ignored it :D

I didn't ignore it - I just never thanked you for the link :thumbs:
 
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