Beginner Cannon EOS 10D over exposure problem

Sorry Phil I've been away for a while, I'm in Dudley West Mids. I've been doing a little searching and this seems to be an issue for a lot of people with both the 5 and 10D cameras with the 10D being the worst as well as auto focus issues ( of course not an issue to me) some are quoting it as a metering problem and others saying the 10 d has poor dynamic range. Some say to under expose others say this causes problems with the shadows. I am going to stick with the film cameras at the moment as they seem to return very good results even with only using the sunny 16 rule and no metering. I can see the advantages to digital ( I can also see the attraction of film) so have decided if It keeps my interest I'll get a new camera in the near future.
Thanks to everyone who offered help

Brad
 
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BADGER.BRAD said:
Sorry Phil I've been away for a while, I'm in Dudley West Mids. I've been doing a little searching and this seems to be an issue for a lot of people with both the 5 and 10D cameras with the 10D being the worst as well as auto focus issues ( of course not an issue to me) some are quoting it as a metering problem and others saying the 10 d has poor dynamic range. Some say to under expose others say this causes problems with the shadows. I am going to stick with the film cameras at the moment as they seem to return very good results even with only using the sunny 16 rule and no metering. I can see the advantages to digital ( I can also see the attraction of film) so have decided if It keeps my interest I'll get a new camera in the near future.
Thanks to everyone who offered help

Brad
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I'm sorry but those reviews you've read have nothing to do with your problem.

I don't believe you are understanding that you've bought a camera that does lots of things automatically, but you're not using that functionality, because the lenses you're using 'break' the cameras functionality.

It'll work, but you need to understand exactly what you're doing. Your descriptions don't give the detail that's convince that you have the correct workflow.

If you use M, outside tomorrow, choose 100 ISO and use the lens wide open and centre the meter, does the image expose correctly (ish), exposure check with histogram.

Don't try any other modes, or stopping the lens down till you know the result if this.
 
Heres the photo and histogram (I know its out of focus)F2.jpg
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Oddly the problem is a lot worse with smaller Apertures,brighter light I've even tried to deliberately under expose the pictures but this just causes problems with the shadows.The colours are also not the best being a washed out, I'm not sure if that is connected ! The camera also shows the blown out highlights on the histogram page by flashing them on the small photo , I'm yet to have a photo which does not have an element of this.
 
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Heres the photo and histogram (I know its out of focus)View attachment 104077
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Oddly the problem is a lot worse with smaller Apertures,brighter light I've even tried to deliberately under expose the pictures but this just causes problems with the shadows.The colours are also not the best being a washed out, I'm not sure if that is connected ! The camera also shows the blown out highlights on the histogram page by flashing them on the small photo , I'm yet to have a photo which does not have an element of this.
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The colour is connected to it being overexposed,
what was the aperture, was it wide open?
Was the meter centred?
 
Yes it was wide open at f2.8 and the meter was centered
 
I don't remember any worries when I had a 10D but I didn't use manual lenses on it... I must have used it in manual though... and I may be wrong but I'm leaning towards this being a setup and use issue rather than a hardware issue as such. If the op is anywhere near Middlesbrough pm me and I'll be happy to meet up and see if I can help at all.
 
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Yes it was wide open at f2.8 and the meter was centered
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Best I can remember that was a sunny afternoon.
So by my rough calculations creates a shot either 1 or 2 stops overexposed at your settings.

The histogram agrees with my logic. So it appears to be a metering issue.

Do you have an alternative meter?

I'd suggest a borrow of a Canon EF lens, and see if that fixes it.
If I lived nearer I'd help in person.
 
Thanks for the help Phil I tried using a separate light meter but it gave me the same settings the camera was showing. I will have a look for an EF lens as they are quite cheap on ebay and see if that cures it. I knew there was a chap at work that had a lot of camera experience ( he now works in a different department) but once I had tracked him down I found all his gear was Nikon.
Thanks again for your help.

Brad
 
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